That’s not what I asked or originally wrote.
Are you saying he took AMA off, when we needed a goal, for another reason? And not to protect him after picking up a muscle injury the week before? When we needed a goal?
Oops thought that was Mamba! Sincere apologies.
I don’t necessarily disagree with moving Trent there, he’s the only one with a similar passing range in the squad.
We’re definitely light in midfield. But we all knew this.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just so I’m clear, you’re saying that when we needed a goal he took AMA off for another reason, and not to protect him after returning from international duty with a muscle problem?
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No. IMO, we did need to protect AMA, but we also needed to retain dynamism in midfield and score a goal. Endo or Jones would not have provided that so Bradley coming on with TAA moving to midfield seems plausible.
If we were 3-0 up he would have protected AMA by bringing on Endo or Jones. So it's not a matter of us needing bodies in midfield, it was a tactical decision.
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me. I thought he did it because we needed a goal, not to protect anyone.“
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posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me. I thought he did it because we needed a goal, not to protect anyone.“
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AMA was taken off to protect him. TAA consequently going to midfield was technical IMO as we needed to score and be dynamic going forward and he was the best option for that purpose.
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me.“
“AMA was taken off to protect him.”
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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It’s actually one midfielder for one position.
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
Andre had a pretty decent game yesterday fwiw
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posted 8 minutes ago
Andre had a pretty decent game yesterday fwiw
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Only watched first half and Andre and Gomes were running them ragged.
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posted 18 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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On paper we have enough, 6 players for 3 positions is ok. It's the same as we have for our forward positions.
Problems come if Slot genuinely doesn't rate Endo - bit early to tell but we know he was prepared to sell him - and Jones' injury record doesn't improve. Curtis has missed 44 games over the last 3 seasons and beginning of this one. That's a huge number.
So whilst 6 players sounds ok, we definitely have room for another midfielder. Doesn't need to be a rock-star signing either imo; someone to compete with AMA and Grav would be fine.
comment by Boca Seniors (CR7= Club Record, 7-0) (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
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We have Endo for that role and few others that can play there. He's just not good enough but we should wait to sign who we want in that position instead of signing another Endo.
Also, the problem against Forest wasn't the lack of a ball winner in midfield. Also won our first 3 games and won at OT without a ball winner. Forest just sat back and we played into their hands. For me, it was a technical failure but Slot will learn. It can be argued we won't really need a ball winner in most games in the league.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted about 2 hours ago
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me.“
“AMA was taken off to protect him.”
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Who said TAA going to midfield was to protect AMA? If the only purpose was to protect AMA we would have used Endo. We had a another purpose of needing to score a goal, which IMO is the reason we decided to send TAA into midfield. If we were 3-0 up, TAA would have been rested for Bradley and Endo for AMA.
So we didn't send TAA to midfield to protect AMA like you claimed, we sent him there to retain dynamism in midfield even after AMA had gone off, because we needed a goal.
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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It's gonna be a loooooong season.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boca Seniors (CR7= Club Record, 7-0) (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
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We have Endo for that role and few others that can play there. He's just not good enough but we should wait to sign who we want in that position instead of signing another Endo.
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Endo isn't even good at winning the ball back.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
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Seriously?
“Who said it was to protect AMA?“
You did you, about 8 minutes later
Don’t know about anyone else but I’m seriously bored of your shiiiiiiiit.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
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Seriously?
“Who said it was to protect AMA?“
You did you, about 8 minutes later
Don’t know about anyone else but I’m seriously bored of your shiiiiiiiit.
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You're confusing my query.
Did we take off AMA to protect him? Yes. I think it was the plan for him to be taken off from the start.
Did we move TAA to midfield to protect AMA? No. It was an in game management decision to do that because we needed to score.
Ideally we would have been 3-0 up and we would have rested TAA and AMA in readiness for Milan, but that was not to be and Slot had to make the decision.
This is all IMO anyway. If you think it's nonsense and contradictory then fair enough and each to their own saan
Did we move TAA to midfield to protect AMA? No. It was an in game management decision to do that because we needed to score.
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Would Trent have been moved into midfield if AMA didn’t need to come off? Can’t say 100% but I reckon it’s very unlikely.
Just a bad day at the office. Before we went with Trent & Robertson as our flying fullbacks, Klopp also struggled and complained about deep blocks A LOT.
Slot will have to figure out his way as well.
I feel like if we can work out low blocks then the sky is the limit. I think we'll work it out under Slot as well in the end. He favours the neater shorter passing which is what we'll need to unlock stubborn defences. Maybe it was more a case of just having a complete off day with our passing more than anything else. If we had put in a performance like our first three games I think we would have got at least a goal.
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posted on 16/9/24
That’s not what I asked or originally wrote.
Are you saying he took AMA off, when we needed a goal, for another reason? And not to protect him after picking up a muscle injury the week before? When we needed a goal?
posted on 16/9/24
Oops thought that was Mamba! Sincere apologies.
I don’t necessarily disagree with moving Trent there, he’s the only one with a similar passing range in the squad.
We’re definitely light in midfield. But we all knew this.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just so I’m clear, you’re saying that when we needed a goal he took AMA off for another reason, and not to protect him after returning from international duty with a muscle problem?
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No. IMO, we did need to protect AMA, but we also needed to retain dynamism in midfield and score a goal. Endo or Jones would not have provided that so Bradley coming on with TAA moving to midfield seems plausible.
If we were 3-0 up he would have protected AMA by bringing on Endo or Jones. So it's not a matter of us needing bodies in midfield, it was a tactical decision.
posted on 16/9/24
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me. I thought he did it because we needed a goal, not to protect anyone.“
posted on 16/9/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me. I thought he did it because we needed a goal, not to protect anyone.“
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AMA was taken off to protect him. TAA consequently going to midfield was technical IMO as we needed to score and be dynamic going forward and he was the best option for that purpose.
posted on 16/9/24
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me.“
“AMA was taken off to protect him.”
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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posted on 16/9/24
It’s actually one midfielder for one position.
posted on 16/9/24
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
posted on 16/9/24
Andre had a pretty decent game yesterday fwiw
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Andre had a pretty decent game yesterday fwiw
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Only watched first half and Andre and Gomes were running them ragged.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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On paper we have enough, 6 players for 3 positions is ok. It's the same as we have for our forward positions.
Problems come if Slot genuinely doesn't rate Endo - bit early to tell but we know he was prepared to sell him - and Jones' injury record doesn't improve. Curtis has missed 44 games over the last 3 seasons and beginning of this one. That's a huge number.
So whilst 6 players sounds ok, we definitely have room for another midfielder. Doesn't need to be a rock-star signing either imo; someone to compete with AMA and Grav would be fine.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Boca Seniors (CR7= Club Record, 7-0) (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
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We have Endo for that role and few others that can play there. He's just not good enough but we should wait to sign who we want in that position instead of signing another Endo.
posted on 16/9/24
Also, the problem against Forest wasn't the lack of a ball winner in midfield. Also won our first 3 games and won at OT without a ball winner. Forest just sat back and we played into their hands. For me, it was a technical failure but Slot will learn. It can be argued we won't really need a ball winner in most games in the league.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted about 2 hours ago
“Who said it was to protect AMA? Sounds a bit convoluted to me.“
“AMA was taken off to protect him.”
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Who said TAA going to midfield was to protect AMA? If the only purpose was to protect AMA we would have used Endo. We had a another purpose of needing to score a goal, which IMO is the reason we decided to send TAA into midfield. If we were 3-0 up, TAA would have been rested for Bradley and Endo for AMA.
So we didn't send TAA to midfield to protect AMA like you claimed, we sent him there to retain dynamism in midfield even after AMA had gone off, because we needed a goal.
posted on 16/9/24
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
He could have played Endo and given Grav AMA's role but he is not going to play Endo because he more or less told him that he is not good enough so now Slot is stuck with a very small pool of midfielders.
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Grav
Szobo
AMA
Jones
Elliot
Endo
That's 6 midfielders for 3 positions. If we sign anyone they have to be top class IMO. No point in adding another Endo, Jones or even Elliot, who are good for us but cannot produce the goods at the top level consistently at the moment.
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It's gonna be a loooooong season.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boca Seniors (CR7= Club Record, 7-0) (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
We need a ball winning midfielder who can defend counter attacks. Pep understood this after his first season and Arteta doing the same with his 4 CBs and big physical midfielders.
We have too many passive defenders in the team. Konate is the only one who loves to defend.
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We have Endo for that role and few others that can play there. He's just not good enough but we should wait to sign who we want in that position instead of signing another Endo.
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Endo isn't even good at winning the ball back.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
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Seriously?
“Who said it was to protect AMA?“
You did you, about 8 minutes later
Don’t know about anyone else but I’m seriously bored of your shiiiiiiiit.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Genuine lolz at the fact you even manage to contradict yourself.
Go and have a lie down Mamba.
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How have I contradicted myself?
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Seriously?
“Who said it was to protect AMA?“
You did you, about 8 minutes later
Don’t know about anyone else but I’m seriously bored of your shiiiiiiiit.
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You're confusing my query.
Did we take off AMA to protect him? Yes. I think it was the plan for him to be taken off from the start.
Did we move TAA to midfield to protect AMA? No. It was an in game management decision to do that because we needed to score.
Ideally we would have been 3-0 up and we would have rested TAA and AMA in readiness for Milan, but that was not to be and Slot had to make the decision.
This is all IMO anyway. If you think it's nonsense and contradictory then fair enough and each to their own saan
posted on 16/9/24
Did we move TAA to midfield to protect AMA? No. It was an in game management decision to do that because we needed to score.
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Would Trent have been moved into midfield if AMA didn’t need to come off? Can’t say 100% but I reckon it’s very unlikely.
posted on 17/9/24
Just a bad day at the office. Before we went with Trent & Robertson as our flying fullbacks, Klopp also struggled and complained about deep blocks A LOT.
Slot will have to figure out his way as well.
posted on 17/9/24
I feel like if we can work out low blocks then the sky is the limit. I think we'll work it out under Slot as well in the end. He favours the neater shorter passing which is what we'll need to unlock stubborn defences. Maybe it was more a case of just having a complete off day with our passing more than anything else. If we had put in a performance like our first three games I think we would have got at least a goal.
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