"I'm sorry if this seems rude, but is no one reading my posts?"
You seem to be saying the same thing over and over, if anything you don't appear to be reading other peoples replies.
"Even if we eliminated racial prejudice entirely, we would still be left with communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events."
'Communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events' have nothing to do with skin colour - there are places like that everywhere, you have to either be very lucky, hard working or clever (generally all three) to get out of them.
HenrysCat (U3608)
That cannot be the case if it's a direct reply to me, which fails to address the point I have made.
"'Communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events' have nothing to do with skin colour"
Completely incorrect.
I have used South Africa as an extreme example, and the UK is effectively further along the same curve, albeit not as steep a curve.
Completely incorrect? No it's not. I could take you to any number of estates/villages around the country where the majority are not black, and they have little or no chance of 'getting out'. Whilst I have no doubt there are estates where the majority are black in the same boat, it is not exclusivey down to their skin colour and to say it is helps no-one.
With all due respect, your example of South Africa is offensive and stupid, things went on there (and still do go on) that have never come close to happening in this country. Ever.
HenrysCat (U3608)
It's incorrect not for that reason.
I didn't say that there are not communities where the majority are non-black, which fall into that category.
But that's not relevant to my point.
Generally, you'll find that the black population has a far higher degree that fall into that category, because of historical prejudices that affect their family/community.
I did not claim it was exclusive.
The example of SA is not stupid.
It's stupid to think I mean they're exactly the same though.
The history of black people in the UK dates back to a time where a black person would either be enslaved, or live in great poverty.
From 1840-1940, Britain's native policy was dominated by racism.
Without going into a boring amount of detail, what we're saying is that there are black people alive today, who started from a quite shocking position in life.
Changing the law doesn't change that fact.
What it does do, is give people an equal opportunity in life, and education etc. helps to bring black people onto an equal footing with other communities.
But that process will take centuries.
So yes, there are some general similarities to be drawn with a situation that SA are still in the very early days of, whilst of course being a different scenario entirely.
"Its like there's some sort of discrimination going on."
Op, you've got to be white, that's why issue of discrimination is a misnomer to you. Please educate yourself by researching this term "institutionalised racism."
I'll accept your apology in good grace.
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posted on 3/10/14
"I'm sorry if this seems rude, but is no one reading my posts?"
You seem to be saying the same thing over and over, if anything you don't appear to be reading other peoples replies.
"Even if we eliminated racial prejudice entirely, we would still be left with communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events."
'Communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events' have nothing to do with skin colour - there are places like that everywhere, you have to either be very lucky, hard working or clever (generally all three) to get out of them.
posted on 3/10/14
HenrysCat (U3608)
That cannot be the case if it's a direct reply to me, which fails to address the point I have made.
"'Communities that suffer from a disadvantage, due to historical events' have nothing to do with skin colour"
Completely incorrect.
I have used South Africa as an extreme example, and the UK is effectively further along the same curve, albeit not as steep a curve.
posted on 3/10/14
Completely incorrect? No it's not. I could take you to any number of estates/villages around the country where the majority are not black, and they have little or no chance of 'getting out'. Whilst I have no doubt there are estates where the majority are black in the same boat, it is not exclusivey down to their skin colour and to say it is helps no-one.
With all due respect, your example of South Africa is offensive and stupid, things went on there (and still do go on) that have never come close to happening in this country. Ever.
posted on 3/10/14
HenrysCat (U3608)
It's incorrect not for that reason.
I didn't say that there are not communities where the majority are non-black, which fall into that category.
But that's not relevant to my point.
Generally, you'll find that the black population has a far higher degree that fall into that category, because of historical prejudices that affect their family/community.
I did not claim it was exclusive.
The example of SA is not stupid.
It's stupid to think I mean they're exactly the same though.
The history of black people in the UK dates back to a time where a black person would either be enslaved, or live in great poverty.
From 1840-1940, Britain's native policy was dominated by racism.
Without going into a boring amount of detail, what we're saying is that there are black people alive today, who started from a quite shocking position in life.
Changing the law doesn't change that fact.
What it does do, is give people an equal opportunity in life, and education etc. helps to bring black people onto an equal footing with other communities.
But that process will take centuries.
So yes, there are some general similarities to be drawn with a situation that SA are still in the very early days of, whilst of course being a different scenario entirely.
posted on 3/10/14
"Its like there's some sort of discrimination going on."
Op, you've got to be white, that's why issue of discrimination is a misnomer to you. Please educate yourself by researching this term "institutionalised racism."
I'll accept your apology in good grace.
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