comment by Elvis - Lonely This Christmas (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
No, he can be considered a world (or at least European) great at club level. But will he go down as a world cup great? Not at the moment he wont. You seem to be confusing the tournament with the planet.
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There's no such thing as a world cup great.
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Who says?

So there has never been a show or list on WC greats? Or PL greats? Or FA Cup greats?
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My point is that you can't really label a player great marely based on performance in the world cup. You need to consistently perform at a very top level to become a great.

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comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 seconds ago
It's going to be really bizarre to see him in a different kit
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I'm just glad Fergie has retired or we'd be trying to sign him several years too late

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Le Tissier was a top player, outrageously gifted. He was extremley lazy though.

Gerrard is a PL legend, no doubt about it. I wouldn't put him in a PL all time XI, but that is personal preference.

So Elvis, are you saying that Petit - another player who could easily be named in the top 10 great PL midfielders - will be elevated above Gerrard in future lists simply because he won the trophy more?

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Have you watched the video of Gerrard's mistake yet?
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On repeat

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Gerrards standing in the game

Interesting title choice when you consider the demba ba goal.....

you can't be a great without having the talent as well as the trophy

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Elvis, mate, I just don't see how the logic works. George Best was one of the greatest of all time, but never went to a world cup. So we can't actually say he was one of the best in the world?

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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis - Lonely This Christmas (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
No, he can be considered a world (or at least European) great at club level. But will he go down as a world cup great? Not at the moment he wont. You seem to be confusing the tournament with the planet.
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There's no such thing as a world cup great.
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Who says?

So there has never been a show or list on WC greats? Or PL greats? Or FA Cup greats?
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My point is that you can't really label a player great marely based on performance in the world cup. You need to consistently perform at a very top level to become a great.
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I disagree. If you went to the world cup as a bit of wildcard but went on to score 6 goals the won your country the WC, you'd go down as a WC great, even if you were only an average player. In relation to that tournament, you'd be a great/legend.

comment by roonited (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Gerrards standing in the game

Interesting title choice when you consider the demba ba goal.....
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Wasn't going for it

You need to start paying more attention to both your own team and what people type. I have stated that you can't be a great without having the talent as well as the trophy. Do keep up.
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So just so I'm clear. Gerrard could have gone to Chelsea, played 14 times in a season, won a trophy, come back to Liverpool and would then be considered a great, rather than an icon, by virtue of the club he played for in a singular season?

That's what you're saying Elvis?

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Gerrard;s first touch was a mistake, no question

but I doubt he'd have scored without the slip as well which wasn't a mistake

comment by Elvis - Lonely This Christmas (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis - Lonely This Christmas (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
No, he can be considered a world (or at least European) great at club level. But will he go down as a world cup great? Not at the moment he wont. You seem to be confusing the tournament with the planet.
===================
There's no such thing as a world cup great.
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Who says?

So there has never been a show or list on WC greats? Or PL greats? Or FA Cup greats?
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My point is that you can't really label a player great marely based on performance in the world cup. You need to consistently perform at a very top level to become a great.
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I disagree. If you went to the world cup as a bit of wildcard but went on to score 6 goals the won your country the WC, you'd go down as a WC great, even if you were only an average player. In relation to that tournament, you'd be a great/legend.
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Let's agree to disagree..

The one that cost your team the title.
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I hate this view point. Not only does it disregard all the good things he did that season but also gives zero credit to City who were excellent.

Oh hang on.....

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comment by 🔥💩He's French, He's Flash... I'm sorreh teh say it's Moyseh... (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by roonited (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
Gerrards standing in the game

Interesting title choice when you consider the demba ba goal.....
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Wasn't going for it
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Course you weren't, you just thought you'd slip it in