So Liverpool fans blamed Parry for signing cheap players who turned out to be poor? Or did they blame him for being part of the reason Rafa had to keep bringing in this type of player? There is a huge difference between this and saying 'Liverpool fans gave Rafa the credit for the good signings and blamed Parry (I think it was0 for the bad ones.' Think about it. If you had stated the former I would not have said anything but the latter is hogwash, sorry. What about Hicks and Gillette? What were they blamed for seeing as it was only Parry and Rafa that Liverpool fans could talk about? Your statement contains some truth but ultimately it is patently misleading and meant to paint a certain picture, which some people like to do when in debate with a Liverpool fan.
Rafa made mistakes, I have not seen anyone denying that yet. Pointing out the poor ownership and management (must have been some of the worst seen in the league) he had to work under is stating a fact which for some reason some people perceive as a vigorous defence of Rafa.
Liverpool fans will know more than you what it was like during Rafa's time. Rafa made noise and put the owners under pressure for funds. When you need 4 players and are told that you have sell to buy with a budget that can only get you one of the players you desire, you tend to compromise a lot. Every summer interview was like a plea for sufficient money with the task of maintaining CL status. That's not to say Rafa himself did not make mistakes. With hindsight we can see he made mistakes but it was mistakes elsewhere that really did us in in the end.
Just drop the innuendo, have a decent debate because criticism of Rafa is valid but so is criticism of the conditions he had to work under from which we are still reeling and trying to recover from to this day but clearly the worst is over now and we can move forward. Our huge loss last year was the last of the cowboys' effect on our club.
The same persons who say Liverpool fans don't accept criticism of Rafa are the same persons who don't accept criticism of anyone else but Rafa. Both extremes are just as ridiculous as the other and you know what they say about the proverbial baboon whose arris is just as red as his mate's but does not realise this and proceeds to laugh at his mate's red arris anyway.
Everyone knows that for a period of time he worked under difficult conditions, but until the final Summer he was there, he was always backed by the yanks in the transfer market and never really made Liverpool any betttter. In fact they were worse when he left than when he joined the club, despite spending significant sums of money. Don't think anyone can argue with that.
I love the way all Liverpool fans backed him and all stood up for him. Utter tosh.
We all know he made a lot of bad signings but what you blinkered lot don't understand is what he had to do to build a squad. He was given small budgets when we needed many players when utd and Chelsea were buying £20-30m players each window. He was given £20-30m each window to get around 4 players.
Parry was useless. A prime example was when Rafa spotted Dani alves and Parry lost out on the deal because he played hardball over £1m. We could of signed him for £8m.
Our club was being run by a bunch of morons and Rafa has spoken about how his hands were tied on numerous occasions and quite franky I believe it. Selling our best players when we finished 2nd was the end for him.
I couldnt give a shyyytte what fickle plastic united fans say about rafa ..
led us to the champions league...and the fa cup...and second in the premiership...thats decent going for me.
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posted on 9/4/15
So Liverpool fans blamed Parry for signing cheap players who turned out to be poor? Or did they blame him for being part of the reason Rafa had to keep bringing in this type of player? There is a huge difference between this and saying 'Liverpool fans gave Rafa the credit for the good signings and blamed Parry (I think it was0 for the bad ones.' Think about it. If you had stated the former I would not have said anything but the latter is hogwash, sorry. What about Hicks and Gillette? What were they blamed for seeing as it was only Parry and Rafa that Liverpool fans could talk about? Your statement contains some truth but ultimately it is patently misleading and meant to paint a certain picture, which some people like to do when in debate with a Liverpool fan.
Rafa made mistakes, I have not seen anyone denying that yet. Pointing out the poor ownership and management (must have been some of the worst seen in the league) he had to work under is stating a fact which for some reason some people perceive as a vigorous defence of Rafa.
Liverpool fans will know more than you what it was like during Rafa's time. Rafa made noise and put the owners under pressure for funds. When you need 4 players and are told that you have sell to buy with a budget that can only get you one of the players you desire, you tend to compromise a lot. Every summer interview was like a plea for sufficient money with the task of maintaining CL status. That's not to say Rafa himself did not make mistakes. With hindsight we can see he made mistakes but it was mistakes elsewhere that really did us in in the end.
Just drop the innuendo, have a decent debate because criticism of Rafa is valid but so is criticism of the conditions he had to work under from which we are still reeling and trying to recover from to this day but clearly the worst is over now and we can move forward. Our huge loss last year was the last of the cowboys' effect on our club.
posted on 9/4/15
The same persons who say Liverpool fans don't accept criticism of Rafa are the same persons who don't accept criticism of anyone else but Rafa. Both extremes are just as ridiculous as the other and you know what they say about the proverbial baboon whose arris is just as red as his mate's but does not realise this and proceeds to laugh at his mate's red arris anyway.
posted on 9/4/15
Everyone knows that for a period of time he worked under difficult conditions, but until the final Summer he was there, he was always backed by the yanks in the transfer market and never really made Liverpool any betttter. In fact they were worse when he left than when he joined the club, despite spending significant sums of money. Don't think anyone can argue with that.
posted on 9/4/15
I love the way all Liverpool fans backed him and all stood up for him. Utter tosh.
We all know he made a lot of bad signings but what you blinkered lot don't understand is what he had to do to build a squad. He was given small budgets when we needed many players when utd and Chelsea were buying £20-30m players each window. He was given £20-30m each window to get around 4 players.
Parry was useless. A prime example was when Rafa spotted Dani alves and Parry lost out on the deal because he played hardball over £1m. We could of signed him for £8m.
Our club was being run by a bunch of morons and Rafa has spoken about how his hands were tied on numerous occasions and quite franky I believe it. Selling our best players when we finished 2nd was the end for him.
posted on 10/4/15
I couldnt give a shyyytte what fickle plastic united fans say about rafa ..
led us to the champions league...and the fa cup...and second in the premiership...thats decent going for me.
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