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posted on 28/2/17

Just Shoot

Personally I feel one of the consequences of Brexit will be lesser controls on tax avoidance schemes.

Over the last number of years the EU have been trying to implement stricter tax measures. UK MEP’s have continually voted against these tax reforms.

A deregulated UK will suit many people, (and businesses) who wish to exploit tax avoidance schemes.

Mainly those who have enough wealth to benefit from such loopholes.

posted on 28/2/17

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posted on 28/2/17

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
Just Shoot

Personally I feel one of the consequences of Brexit will be lesser controls on tax avoidance schemes.

Over the last number of years the EU have been trying to implement stricter tax measures. UK MEP’s have continually voted against these tax reforms.

A deregulated UK will suit many people, (and businesses) who wish to exploit tax avoidance schemes.

Mainly those who have enough wealth to benefit from such loopholes.

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Reading between the lines with a tinfoil hat firmly in place, are you suggesting UK politicians wanted us to Brexit to gain personal wealth and are projecting faux disappointment?
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UK politicians are the most honourable and trustworthy on the planet

Yes, and no. I firmly believe there are some who were against tax reforms.

We know the Government are going to cut corporation tax further (to dissuade businesses from leaving) but there is very little, in fact nothing from the Government that suggests any provision will be offered to the less privileged.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
Just Shoot

Personally I feel one of the consequences of Brexit will be lesser controls on tax avoidance schemes.

Over the last number of years the EU have been trying to implement stricter tax measures. UK MEP’s have continually voted against these tax reforms.

A deregulated UK will suit many people, (and businesses) who wish to exploit tax avoidance schemes.

Mainly those who have enough wealth to benefit from such loopholes.

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Reading between the lines with a tinfoil hat firmly in place, are you suggesting UK politicians wanted us to Brexit to gain personal wealth and are projecting faux disappointment?
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Don't be a such negative person. Since when do politicians and government amend/change policies to suit personal agenda?

Never heard of this before

posted on 28/2/17

But theres politicians on both sides...

posted on 28/2/17

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/23/complaining-brexit-economic-benefits-government-cost-of-living-multinationals

Amongst all the doom and gloom post Brexit...
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Given the source (Guardian – a pro remain paper) I have a feeling this story is simply click bait to antagonise their readership.

Longworth was forced to resign from the UK chamber of commerce last year as his pro-Brexit sentiments were detrimental to the chamber’s neutrality.

In regard to his article, the first thing I noticed was his assertion that the UK can renegotiate trade tariffs. This is untrue.

The EU’s trade tariffs are enshrined by treaties at the WTO. Nations have not amended tariffs for years, as any alteration kicks off trade disputes.

If the UK were to alter its trading schedules with the EU, it would face a multitude of complaints from other nations across the globe.

In short, it’s extremely unlikely the UK would even consider what Longthorn is proposing.

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Economic growth now to be 2 per cent rather than 0.8 for the UK.......and Danske bank point to an increase, although smaller😀

Brexit boys on tour.

posted on 28/2/17

John Major never got over Tory euroscepticism 25 years ago, and now grey man undermines May, at a crucial negotiations period.....bitter much, John?

As for WMD warmonger Blair, he wants revolution against leave, or, to ignore democracy.
Then again, he was chums with Gadaffi, and caused hell in Iraq, so his expert judgement is best dismissed!

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 28/2/17

Tour of where?

posted on 28/2/17

There's pros and cons to leaving and staying, we'll be out of the single market but we can trade more with the rest of the world

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Who are we going to trade with that we don't already?

posted on 28/2/17

Economic growth now to be 2 per cent rather than 0.8 for the UK

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What do you mean by economic growth? More goods produced - GDP?

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 7 minutes ago
There's pros and cons to leaving and staying, we'll be out of the single market but we can trade more with the rest of the world

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Who are we going to trade with that we don't already?
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Russia😉

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 7 minutes ago
Economic growth now to be 2 per cent rather than 0.8 for the UK

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What do you mean by economic growth? More goods produced - GDP?
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GDP , per Bank of Engerland!

Good news😀

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 22 minutes ago
Tour of where?
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Europe, of course!

posted on 28/2/17

As a thick brexit deplorable, I do dispute what experts forecast, especially on the economy, unless they concur with my narrative.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 28/2/17

A little more charm and a lot less cheap rhetoric.

Can't argue with that.

Brexitears seem to have forgotten that the UK isn't just those that voted to leave the UK, that to make it work we will ALL have to pull together and that ain't gonna happen as long as you have leading lights abusing anyone that disagrees with them. It's pathetic and short sighted.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 28/2/17

Better do it before you'll need a visa.

They won't let you in.

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
There's pros and cons to leaving and staying, we'll be out of the single market but we can trade more with the rest of the world

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Who are we going to trade with that we don't already?
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The Brussels cabal did not like trade deals out with the EU pact, so as the song goes, We're free to do what we want, Any old time.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 28/2/17

The Brussels cabal did not like trade deals out with the EU pact, so as the song goes, We're free to do what we want, Any old time
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That rules out doing your hoped for special relationship with ROI then.

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
A little more charm and a lot less cheap rhetoric.

Can't argue with that.

Brexitears seem to have forgotten that the UK isn't just those that voted to leave the UK, that to make it work we will ALL have to pull together and that ain't gonna happen as long as you have leading lights abusing anyone that disagrees with them. It's pathetic and short sighted.
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Remain and leave have partisan forces at work, but as labour and Tory realise, the people voted leave, so that has to be respected....in doing so, no need to rub Remain noses in it.
However, as we see in America, losers can be nasty and abusive, just like winners.

Lib dems called it wrongly, trying to ignore leave democracy, IMO.
If the SNP got 52_per cent, I doubt Sturgeon would allow parliament or unionists to stop, stall or alter Indy!

posted on 28/2/17

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Brussels cabal did not like trade deals out with the EU pact, so as the song goes, We're free to do what we want, Any old time
.................................

That rules out doing your hoped for special relationship with ROI then.
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Possibly, but my view on north and south was more related to people's relationships, shared culture, as opposed to stuffy political or economic deals.

Basically, folk getting on and working together😊

I do have an aul hippy and anarchist streak😇

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 28/2/17

Have they not always got on and worked together? Smuggling sheep over the border to avail of EU subsidies...until the Brits had to go and fk it up.

Don't see how you can compare the Scots Indy ref with either Trump or Brexit, that referendum was adult in comparison, the SNP putting on such a grown up argument and debate it won an outright majority in a parliament set up for coalition politics and a landslide of scottish westminster seats. Most MPs were'nt even involved in politics 12 months before, People power.

Obama was also abused, congress wouldn't even work with him.

posted on 28/2/17

TBAB

Did you read the forecast or just the headline?

I ask as most economists have been revising their short term forecasts, as the situation develops. The Danske forecast is for this year.

A year in which (along with 2018) all EU treaties and membership benefits remain as is.

In short, the figures are meaningless as far as brexit is concerned.

posted on 28/2/17

Poor TBAB.. failing to grasp that we are still in the EU and will be for two years yet.

As for trading with whoever we want, that's great. Are we buying or selling?

Plenty of countries queuing up to sell to us without needing to meet stringent EU regulations.

Wonder if that will mean better or worse products coming into us

posted on 28/2/17

I've yet to see, other than the house of lords, any MP admit that brokering new trade deals, is a long long way away.

Brexit at the very earliest will conclude in 2019, and then it's going to be anything from 4 to 6 (or longer) years negotiating a free trade agreement with the EU.

This will have to take precedence over anything else.

At the same time the UK will extract trading schedules from the EU, which will be rewritten (to exclude the e27) and submitted to the WTO for all 163 nations to ratify.

Informal negotiatons can obviously proceed (new trading relationships) but until (as per WTO rules) the UK has "full autonomy of its trading schedules" talk of trade deals with India, Australia, US are fanciful.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 1/3/17

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/foreign-secretary-speech-at-the-british-chamber-of-commerce
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Lunch time reading for all of you.
For info, this is Boris speech to the chamber of commerce.
one would be forgiven to at first, think that it is a parody.

Enjoy...

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