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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 34 seconds ago
Or, fifty million voters being called racist deplorables by warmonger witch hilary.
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Not quite sure how this links in with black racism....

Bit of a stretch....
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At least you admit black racism exists.

Great tactic, lifting one line out from a post, to fit your angle of debate,,btw.

I am not sure how your post is even in context, or relevant, but hey, go jose.


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TBH the rest of the post wasn't up to much either.... black lives matter isn't a racist group.

I do find it slightly ironic that you seem to think mass immigration seems to be an excuse for white racism considering your views on other issues but lets not side track here.

TBH and this little paragraph just all over the place...

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British people are not facist, just fed up with the capitalist elite, corbyn red flag losers, tory cuts, mass rapid population change, banks etc etc.
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The first one maybe, to an extent. Second one really? they are fed up with a guy who has been in charge of the opposition for a fairly brief time and not really done anything.... bit of a stretch just added because of your bias rather than any substance.

Some people are annoyed with Tory cuts but there's a reason they win elections whether I like them or not.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 14 seconds ago
Your posts often contain a wide sweep of whataboutery.
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Sometimes, we need a wider narrative than the usual bogeymen of white males, Israel or brexit voters.

Ninety five per cent of black voters went for Obama, but is that ever brought up, in the way white voters are labelled if they votea certain way, for example.

The uk, usa and european populist voice is a result of one group and viewpoint being ignored or ridiculed, by the global elite, rich pop stars and celebs, left wing media and political figures.

I try to understand what happens, so two sides whatabouttery, if you like, but I give another perspective, and millions are leaving our sick pc world behind.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 12 minutes ago
thebluebellsareblue

I thought my initial comments condemning all extremism was clear.

But you keep referring to the US, which, while noting their problems, has little to do with the UK.
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Referencing alt- right, trump, ukip, brexit, facism etc by several posters here, so sorry if my posts looked beyond blighty😊

There is a big world out there......I thought the right were parochial and inward looking.

I am happy with Ulster and scotland in the Uk, with brexit, if that helps.
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I have no problems with people holding left/right political views. But when those views become radicalised, it serves no purpose, other than intolerance.

I've given my views on brexit throughout this thread, and have nothing against those who wanted to leave. Just can't fathom why the government allowed a largely ignorant electorate (in regard to the EU's relationship with the UK) to make the decision.

Living in NI however, it looks like the Tories see the province as collateral damage.

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Jose

Black lives matter by it's very name is racist, imo.

Members have attacked whites verbally and physically...racist.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 9 minutes ago
The same Russian brothers that helped down MH17.
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Really, you go there, after what the west has done in the middle east, and afghanistan.
Why not speak of the idf treatment of palestinians.then?

I have no beef with Russia, unlike hilary and obama, and hope we in the uk and usa pull out of the middle east and all muslm lands.

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comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
Jose

Black lives matter by it's very name is racist, imo.

Members have attacked whites verbally and physically...racist.
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I'm not sure individual members of a large group doing something racist make it so...

Is Chelsea football club also a racist group?

Of course not, a couple of idiots don't set the tone.

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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 12 minutes ago
thebluebellsareblue

I thought my initial comments condemning all extremism was clear.

But you keep referring to the US, which, while noting their problems, has little to do with the UK.
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Referencing alt- right, trump, ukip, brexit, facism etc by several posters here, so sorry if my posts looked beyond blighty😊

There is a big world out there......I thought the right were parochial and inward looking.

I am happy with Ulster and scotland in the Uk, with brexit, if that helps.
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I have no problems with people holding left/right political views. But when those views become radicalised, it serves no purpose, other than intolerance.

I've given my views on brexit throughout this thread, and have nothing against those who wanted to leave. Just can't fathom why the government allowed a largely ignorant electorate (in regard to the EU's relationship with the UK) to make the decision.

Living in NI however, it looks like the Tories see the province as collateral damage.
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Fair points bud ,but the same guys voting leave used to be labour, so were they educated about the choice facing them in relation to socialism, capitalism and neo liberalism.....nah, were they fuq😃

Implying voters are thick here and elsewhere is arrogant and not democratic....our main export to the middle east under blair, bush and hilary remember, our democracy😠

Who knows what the unknown brings, btw, as brexit is new?

We were told of economic collapse, war in ulster, isis invasion, etc, so remain were no wiser about the future.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 9 minutes ago
The same Russian brothers that helped down MH17.
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Really, you go there, after what the west has done in the middle east, and afghanistan.
Why not speak of the idf treatment of palestinians.then?

I have no beef with Russia, unlike hilary and obama, and hope we in the uk and usa pull out of the middle east and all muslm lands.
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Yes I will go there they have no business in Ukraine. But they annexed Crimea and still harbour Kovtun and Lugovoi wanted here on suspicion of murder.Putin is a gangster not a world leader.
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So, do you want to do what with russia, to put manners on them?
Many rusian folk in Crimea and ukraine, and the west has been stirring it, trying to get former ussr states to join the nato gang.
Look at yugoslavia without Tito, iraq with no saddam,or libya with no Gadaffi.....better, after or before.Isis are fighting Assad, so careful what side your gangster is on, cal 😉
Replace Putin with whom, and how do you do it?

comment by Cook My Sock (U1103)
posted 7 minutes ago
Anyone that does not think that big bad Russia would not defend its borders with Ukraine needs to seriously research the subject

Ukraine is the most strategic place for Russia in event of a war and they will defend it vociferously and not let go

Check your maps and understand history
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This.

And folk say trump is stupid and dangerous.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cook My Sock (U1103)
posted 39 seconds ago
I am quite aware of the history and how they acted appallingly after WWII.

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History is nothing to do with it, I am talking about the here and now
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You are contradicting yourself now. Earlier you said 'Check your maps and understand history'.
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Might was right, sadly, with israel, our empire, American independence, iraq v iran, india v pakistan.

You may mean well cal, but the world sucks, and we deal with what we have, rather than try to impose our trendy, clever views on others.

Iraq, kabul, Libya and syria are bad enough without starting a fight with Russia , thus helping isis, btw.

Goodnight guys, and top chat😊

Apologies to those I wum, or offended.

Peace

thebluebellsareblue

Northern Ireland's economy relies heavily on EU bloc grants. Invest NI, DRD, etc have sold NI to investors as the gateway to the EU. An (expanding) market of 500 million consumers.

Without access to the SM and customs union (as already seen down south) investors will go 50 miles down the road to invest.

Put yourself in a investors shoes. Come to NI, have access to local and UK markets, up to 65million consumers.

Or invest in Dublin, tarriff free, with free access to 27 other countries and a market of 500 million consumers. It's a no brainer.

And that's solely investment, and not equating for Sterling devaluation, and inflation.

The executive nearly collapsed only last year due to Tory austerity measures. Brexit austerity will comfortably supersede those cuts post 2020.

Anyway, hitting the hay!!

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