comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
8bit

As noted above, the debt will affect us all, and potentially our kids too. As it increases as does servicing (imagine your mortgage getting bigger/knock on effect to your monthly repayments).

The UK has already lost its top AAA credit rating – after the EU result, so the cost of borrowing goes up. And if there are signs (which there are) that the UK economy is slowing cost of borrowing will rise further.

Just because the figure is eye watering does not mean it will not have an impact to the £ in your pocket.
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There will be short term effects and most leave voters knew that but I don't think it will be as bad as all the doom and gloom predictions.
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You may be right. I hope you are.

However it could be worse. And remember all this turmoil is a consequence of a vote, nothing more. All the EU bloc grants, trading relationships, and associated benefits remain in place, and are unchanged.

While large parts of the country should weather the storm, it will be the less privileged and working class who will feel the costs the most:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38090977

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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
8bit

As noted above, the debt will affect us all, and potentially our kids too. As it increases as does servicing (imagine your mortgage getting bigger/knock on effect to your monthly repayments).

The UK has already lost its top AAA credit rating – after the EU result, so the cost of borrowing goes up. And if there are signs (which there are) that the UK economy is slowing cost of borrowing will rise further.

Just because the figure is eye watering does not mean it will not have an impact to the £ in your pocket.
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There will be short term effects and most leave voters knew that but I don't think it will be as bad as all the doom and gloom predictions.
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You may be right. I hope you are.

However it could be worse. And remember all this turmoil is a consequence of a vote, nothing more. All the EU bloc grants, trading relationships, and associated benefits remain in place, and are unchanged.

While large parts of the country should weather the storm, it will be the less privileged and working class who will feel the costs the most:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38090977

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TBH as a socialist the only bright side I am seeing is when right wing populism actually ends up making people worse off it might drive more voters to left wing parties.

I never really held out much hope of a true left wing alternative, like a Corbyn getting anywhere but the right can't continue to mess things up and win elections...

Or at least there's a chance they might not be able too...

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Only problem is they like to blame other people (Muslims, Immigrants ect) for all their problems, instead of seeing who's really to blame.
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Then who do you think is to blame?

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
8bit

As noted above, the debt will affect us all, and potentially our kids too. As it increases as does servicing (imagine your mortgage getting bigger/knock on effect to your monthly repayments).

The UK has already lost its top AAA credit rating – after the EU result, so the cost of borrowing goes up. And if there are signs (which there are) that the UK economy is slowing cost of borrowing will rise further.

Just because the figure is eye watering does not mean it will not have an impact to the £ in your pocket.
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There will be short term effects and most leave voters knew that but I don't think it will be as bad as all the doom and gloom predictions.
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You may be right. I hope you are.

However it could be worse. And remember all this turmoil is a consequence of a vote, nothing more. All the EU bloc grants, trading relationships, and associated benefits remain in place, and are unchanged.

While large parts of the country should weather the storm, it will be the less privileged and working class who will feel the costs the most:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38090977

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That article is about pre brexit. if the last 10 years have been the worst for growth in living standards then our economic model is failing. Say for example remain and Hillary won the elections, everything would carry on as normal. Now especially since Trump won the media/politicians are understanding better why people voted the way they did. So things have to change otherwise populist parties and outsiders will keep getting voted in. Even if we have to deal with an economic downturn now, in the long term it will lead to more positive change than the alternative would have imo.

I don’t really see Brexit as a left v right argument. Both sides of the political spectrum voted Leave/Remain. The result, and divisions leading up to it however exposed, and in some cases bolstered those with more hard-line views.

Corbyn was (unbelievably) on the Remain campaign but has long been a Euro sceptic. More to do with internal Labour politics IMO…

I won’t go into Boris Johnston as it’s fair to say, the only thing on his mind was No10!

There has been a clear attempt post vote however by the Tories to procure the Ukip vote. Which was clear during their conference a while back.

Anyway, have a good evening folks

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Sizzle will you attempt to secure work abroad?

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There has been a clear attempt post vote however by the Tories to procure the Ukip vote. Which was clear during their conference a while back.
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The whole reason we are in this mess is because of Tory civil war, Cameron thinking he could isolate the Right of his party by having a referendum and letting the country alienate their out dated opinions.

The Government, Big Business and The banks.
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That a cop out Sizzle,how unusual.

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comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
8bit

As noted above, the debt will affect us all, and potentially our kids too. As it increases as does servicing (imagine your mortgage getting bigger/knock on effect to your monthly repayments).

The UK has already lost its top AAA credit rating – after the EU result, so the cost of borrowing goes up. And if there are signs (which there are) that the UK economy is slowing cost of borrowing will rise further.

Just because the figure is eye watering does not mean it will not have an impact to the £ in your pocket.
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There will be short term effects and most leave voters knew that but I don't think it will be as bad as all the doom and gloom predictions.
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You may be right. I hope you are.

However it could be worse. And remember all this turmoil is a consequence of a vote, nothing more. All the EU bloc grants, trading relationships, and associated benefits remain in place, and are unchanged.

While large parts of the country should weather the storm, it will be the less privileged and working class who will feel the costs the most:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38090977

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TBH as a socialist the only bright side I am seeing is when right wing populism actually ends up making people worse off it might drive more voters to left wing parties.

I never really held out much hope of a true left wing alternative, like a Corbyn getting anywhere but the right can't continue to mess things up and win elections...

Or at least there's a chance they might not be able too...
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Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump easily so it's not impossible, I reckon Corbyn will have a better chance than a centrist 'electable' MP. He's sort of an outsider and known Eurosceptic so he can appeal to different people. He needs UKIP to fall apart and win back some of their voters.

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I'm not sure how Trump Sander would have gone but I can certainly imagine Sanders getting closer to winning (if not winning) then any self declared socialist would have managed in any other US election.

UKIP does seem to be making a bit of an effort to fall apart, they've lost an ex leader (only 28 odd days worth mind) and a leadership candidate from the party in recent months, they haven't really got much else left to offer after Brexit either....

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