comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 55 seconds ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
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Issue is, our other wingers are Lingard, Young and Depay.
However, I'd put my money on us performing better by simply playing players int heir right positions.
No way would Rashford and/ or Martial have not scored up top against Burnley. This comes back to Jose not trusting youth imo.
Rashford in particular comes to life the moment he steps foot in the opponents box, yet we still stick him out wide every game. His last goal came from a 10 minute stint up front, and won us a game, hasn't been up front since.
I still think Jose needs more time but the reason that our start to the season has been so frustrating is that Jose, of all new managers, should have been expected to hit the ground running. I.e. more so than Pep, Klopp et al.
Jose is not new to this league and he should have known United's squad pretty well before he took over.
On top of that he has known since last Christmas that he would be taking the United job and, by his own admission, he got all the players he wanted nice and early in the transfer window.
Also, Jose was renowned for starting the season well at Chelsea, so much so that SAF had to change his approach to preseason in order to meet the challenge.
With all this in mind, Jose could not really have had a more disappointing start to the season. That said, I will reserve judgement until Christmas. The next 4-6 weeks is key.
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
I agree. I think we'll win the league cup and go far in the Europa.
That and top 4 would be a good first season
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Seriously.... how in the name of Ricky Martin do you think that's going to happen
we've been awful in the Europa bar a half hour or so at home to Fener... haven't won in over 9 euro aways... but we'll go far?
and our league form is abysmal... we're adrift of top 4, have barely played well all season bar the odd spell in games (and the freak game of Burnley.... who are shiiite)... what exactly do you see that makes you confident of top 4 .... especially given every other post you make is hammering the quality of our players in an attempt to deny and deflect any criticism of Jose
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 7 minutes ago
Young is garbage
Carrick and bs are both past it and shouldn't even be at the club.
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Thats nonsense
Young has been praised by LVG and Jose
MC and BS are still better than what we see at what are mid and lower clubs
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I don't care who's praised young he's a dreadful footballer and has been chit since he arrived.
He should never of been bought. He's just about a PL standard player
Bs and mc are both Old and well pastbthere used by dates carrick should of been replaced years ago and bs should never of been bought.
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
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I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
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no no the young right back lad is just huge
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
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I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
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no no the young right back lad is just huge
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only just twigged you mean Fosu Mensah.... thought you'd lost it a bit
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
I agree. I think we'll win the league cup and go far in the Europa.
That and top 4 would be a good first season
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Seriously.... how in the name of Ricky Martin do you think that's going to happen
we've been awful in the Europa bar a half hour or so at home to Fener... haven't won in over 9 euro aways... but we'll go far?
and our league form is abysmal... we're adrift of top 4, have barely played well all season bar the odd spell in games (and the freak game of Burnley.... who are shiiite)... what exactly do you see that makes you confident of top 4 .... especially given every other post you make is hammering the quality of our players in an attempt to deny and deflect any criticism of Jose
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Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
I've said our players aren't great but that's in respect to a title challenge.
We have enough to go far in Europe. Have I said we'll win the CL with this squad? Nope. I've said we can go far in the Europa. I think this set of players will take it more seriously once they reach the knockout stages.
As for the league, we have had a tough start. Our top 4 rivals still have to go to Liverpool and Chelsea. We've been.
"Because I've seen signs that we can improve."
You're off your fecking rocker Robb.
Only signs so far are of an implode, this reminds me of the Moyes season. Better yet, Chelsea last season.
omment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
......................
The substitution for Pogba was all wrong yesterday for me.
What was Jose expecting bringing on Zlatan and dropping Rooney to play the Pogba role.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 25 seconds ago
"Because I've seen signs that we can improve."
You're off your fecking rocker Robb.
Only signs so far are of an implode, this reminds me of the Moyes season. Better yet, Chelsea last season.
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Mate, you're a drama queen. I should know. We can smell our own.
Against Stoke, City and Burnley I saw plenty of signs of how well we can play. I'm sure we can keep improving.
Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
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you're tripping....
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
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no no the young right back lad is just huge
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only just twigged you mean Fosu Mensah.... thought you'd lost it a bit
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that's the lad.
If anyone on here genuinely hasn't seen some signs of optimism then tbh I'm shocked.
They are there if you look.
"I've said we can go far in the Europa. "
I'd love to know what this is based on?
We were destroyed yesterday, could have been 4 or 5. The likes of Spurs, Basel, Napoli, Benfica, Porto, Lyon, even City could be joining us in Europa.
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 1 minute ago
Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
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you're tripping....
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I guess on a technicality he's right. We can't get any worse
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 55 seconds ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Issue is, our other wingers are Lingard, Young and Depay.
However, I'd put my money on us performing better by simply playing players int heir right positions.
No way would Rashford and/ or Martial have not scored up top against Burnley. This comes back to Jose not trusting youth imo.
Rashford in particular comes to life the moment he steps foot in the opponents box, yet we still stick him out wide every game. His last goal came from a 10 minute stint up front, and won us a game, hasn't been up front since.
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re the wingers. young can play right or left side as can Martial
furthermore rashford can interchange with martial and young
Its not always ideal with the likes of depay struggling to find his feet etc but we have options
LVG got dogs abuse and often rightly so but when he got the injuries he bought in the players for those positions from the youth.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I've said we can go far in the Europa. "
I'd love to know what this is based on?
We were destroyed yesterday, could have been 4 or 5. The likes of Spurs, Basel, Napoli, Benfica, Porto, Lyon, even City could be joining us in Europa.
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Jose said the players didn't seem up for it and he was furious
He won't make that mistake again and the players certainly won't approach a knock out game with Lyon the same way they would a not exactly must win game.against Fenerbahce
As for the league, we have had a tough start.
===============================
Robb I like ya but you're cracking up a bit.
How has the first ten games been tough in comparison to anyone else? I don't get that.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
omment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
......................
The substitution for Pogba was all wrong yesterday for me.
What was Jose expecting bringing on Zlatan and dropping Rooney to play the Pogba role.
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I know mate. first time since SAF left i missed some of the second half when I have had a choice
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
Robbing, just read the three sentences I wrote above and save yourself a lot of time.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 47 seconds ago
As for the league, we have had a tough start.
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Robb I like ya but you're cracking up a bit.
How has the first ten games been tough in comparison to anyone else? I don't get that.
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We had to play Liverpool and Chelsea away in the space of 6 days with a Europa game in between.
No, its not been the hardest start in history but it has been a bit awkward at times.
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
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no need for that robb, its been a good discussion so far lets not ruin it with name calling
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
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Taking your mantle from last season.
I am not moaning, I am saying it how it is, have since the day Jose came.
I hope I am wrong, I really do. I actually expected us to have a great couple of seasons before the mess began.
Problem is Mourinho likes a big man up front. That's why he's picked Zlatan ahead of Rashford. IMO, Rashford would be far more effective.
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posted on 4/11/16
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 55 seconds ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Issue is, our other wingers are Lingard, Young and Depay.
However, I'd put my money on us performing better by simply playing players int heir right positions.
No way would Rashford and/ or Martial have not scored up top against Burnley. This comes back to Jose not trusting youth imo.
Rashford in particular comes to life the moment he steps foot in the opponents box, yet we still stick him out wide every game. His last goal came from a 10 minute stint up front, and won us a game, hasn't been up front since.
posted on 4/11/16
I still think Jose needs more time but the reason that our start to the season has been so frustrating is that Jose, of all new managers, should have been expected to hit the ground running. I.e. more so than Pep, Klopp et al.
Jose is not new to this league and he should have known United's squad pretty well before he took over.
On top of that he has known since last Christmas that he would be taking the United job and, by his own admission, he got all the players he wanted nice and early in the transfer window.
Also, Jose was renowned for starting the season well at Chelsea, so much so that SAF had to change his approach to preseason in order to meet the challenge.
With all this in mind, Jose could not really have had a more disappointing start to the season. That said, I will reserve judgement until Christmas. The next 4-6 weeks is key.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
I agree. I think we'll win the league cup and go far in the Europa.
That and top 4 would be a good first season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Seriously.... how in the name of Ricky Martin do you think that's going to happen
we've been awful in the Europa bar a half hour or so at home to Fener... haven't won in over 9 euro aways... but we'll go far?
and our league form is abysmal... we're adrift of top 4, have barely played well all season bar the odd spell in games (and the freak game of Burnley.... who are shiiite)... what exactly do you see that makes you confident of top 4 .... especially given every other post you make is hammering the quality of our players in an attempt to deny and deflect any criticism of Jose
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 7 minutes ago
Young is garbage
Carrick and bs are both past it and shouldn't even be at the club.
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Thats nonsense
Young has been praised by LVG and Jose
MC and BS are still better than what we see at what are mid and lower clubs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't care who's praised young he's a dreadful footballer and has been chit since he arrived.
He should never of been bought. He's just about a PL standard player
Bs and mc are both Old and well pastbthere used by dates carrick should of been replaced years ago and bs should never of been bought.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no no the young right back lad is just huge
posted on 4/11/16
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no no the young right back lad is just huge
----------------------------------------------------------------------
only just twigged you mean Fosu Mensah.... thought you'd lost it a bit
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
I agree. I think we'll win the league cup and go far in the Europa.
That and top 4 would be a good first season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Seriously.... how in the name of Ricky Martin do you think that's going to happen
we've been awful in the Europa bar a half hour or so at home to Fener... haven't won in over 9 euro aways... but we'll go far?
and our league form is abysmal... we're adrift of top 4, have barely played well all season bar the odd spell in games (and the freak game of Burnley.... who are shiiite)... what exactly do you see that makes you confident of top 4 .... especially given every other post you make is hammering the quality of our players in an attempt to deny and deflect any criticism of Jose
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Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
I've said our players aren't great but that's in respect to a title challenge.
We have enough to go far in Europe. Have I said we'll win the CL with this squad? Nope. I've said we can go far in the Europa. I think this set of players will take it more seriously once they reach the knockout stages.
As for the league, we have had a tough start. Our top 4 rivals still have to go to Liverpool and Chelsea. We've been.
posted on 4/11/16
"Because I've seen signs that we can improve."
You're off your fecking rocker Robb.
Only signs so far are of an implode, this reminds me of the Moyes season. Better yet, Chelsea last season.
posted on 4/11/16
omment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
......................
The substitution for Pogba was all wrong yesterday for me.
What was Jose expecting bringing on Zlatan and dropping Rooney to play the Pogba role.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 25 seconds ago
"Because I've seen signs that we can improve."
You're off your fecking rocker Robb.
Only signs so far are of an implode, this reminds me of the Moyes season. Better yet, Chelsea last season.
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Mate, you're a drama queen. I should know. We can smell our own.
Against Stoke, City and Burnley I saw plenty of signs of how well we can play. I'm sure we can keep improving.
posted on 4/11/16
Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
-------------------------------------------------------------
you're tripping....
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serge Muhmenthaler (U15867)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 seconds ago
How I'd imagine Klop pwould line up your current squad
-----------DDG--------
Young rigth back lad-----Smalling--Bailly--Blind
----------Carrick--------
----Pogba------Miki
Lingard---Rash---MArtial
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can see why Liverpool get criticised defensively if Klopp has 3 of his 4 defenders lined up sat in the stand...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no no the young right back lad is just huge
----------------------------------------------------------------------
only just twigged you mean Fosu Mensah.... thought you'd lost it a bit
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's the lad.
posted on 4/11/16
If anyone on here genuinely hasn't seen some signs of optimism then tbh I'm shocked.
They are there if you look.
posted on 4/11/16
"I've said we can go far in the Europa. "
I'd love to know what this is based on?
We were destroyed yesterday, could have been 4 or 5. The likes of Spurs, Basel, Napoli, Benfica, Porto, Lyon, even City could be joining us in Europa.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 1 minute ago
Because I've seen signs that we can improve.
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you're tripping....
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I guess on a technicality he's right. We can't get any worse
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 55 seconds ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Issue is, our other wingers are Lingard, Young and Depay.
However, I'd put my money on us performing better by simply playing players int heir right positions.
No way would Rashford and/ or Martial have not scored up top against Burnley. This comes back to Jose not trusting youth imo.
Rashford in particular comes to life the moment he steps foot in the opponents box, yet we still stick him out wide every game. His last goal came from a 10 minute stint up front, and won us a game, hasn't been up front since.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
re the wingers. young can play right or left side as can Martial
furthermore rashford can interchange with martial and young
Its not always ideal with the likes of depay struggling to find his feet etc but we have options
LVG got dogs abuse and often rightly so but when he got the injuries he bought in the players for those positions from the youth.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I've said we can go far in the Europa. "
I'd love to know what this is based on?
We were destroyed yesterday, could have been 4 or 5. The likes of Spurs, Basel, Napoli, Benfica, Porto, Lyon, even City could be joining us in Europa.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose said the players didn't seem up for it and he was furious
He won't make that mistake again and the players certainly won't approach a knock out game with Lyon the same way they would a not exactly must win game.against Fenerbahce
posted on 4/11/16
As for the league, we have had a tough start.
===============================
Robb I like ya but you're cracking up a bit.
How has the first ten games been tough in comparison to anyone else? I don't get that.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
omment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
Busby agreed
even if Jose played Rashford up top yesterday from the start
You cant replace a misfiring Zlatan (tbf had a great start) with a rooney who hasnt been firing for a couple of seasons and expect goals galore
......................
The substitution for Pogba was all wrong yesterday for me.
What was Jose expecting bringing on Zlatan and dropping Rooney to play the Pogba role.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know mate. first time since SAF left i missed some of the second half when I have had a choice
posted on 4/11/16
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
posted on 4/11/16
Robbing, just read the three sentences I wrote above and save yourself a lot of time.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 47 seconds ago
As for the league, we have had a tough start.
===============================
Robb I like ya but you're cracking up a bit.
How has the first ten games been tough in comparison to anyone else? I don't get that.
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We had to play Liverpool and Chelsea away in the space of 6 days with a Europa game in between.
No, its not been the hardest start in history but it has been a bit awkward at times.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
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no need for that robb, its been a good discussion so far lets not ruin it with name calling
posted on 4/11/16
comment by Robb Trump (U21234)
posted 16 seconds ago
It would seem that Busby is taking the position of chief 'biitch' this season.
What a woman
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Taking your mantle from last season.
I am not moaning, I am saying it how it is, have since the day Jose came.
I hope I am wrong, I really do. I actually expected us to have a great couple of seasons before the mess began.
posted on 4/11/16
Problem is Mourinho likes a big man up front. That's why he's picked Zlatan ahead of Rashford. IMO, Rashford would be far more effective.
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