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The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists

Winston Churchill


The man was right. These PC Liberal SJWs are the real fascist and yet they claim to be anti-fascist.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
I have stopped responding to Sizzle directly because of the insults and the total lack of reality in his language.
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Very tiresome. It is a shame because we often get a good debate going on things whatever angle we approach issues from, but they often get diluted by drivel
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The thing with sizzle is that no one else is allowed to have a different opinion to his. If he doesn't like what you say then you are either a racist, fascist or both

He says he is tolerant, but he is the least tolerant person on here!

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Europe is a fantastic place full of interesting people ................. and the French.

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I've no issue with The EU, why on earth should I? They have provided us all with peace, security, prosperity & rights (both human & employment) for decades.

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Peace has had little or nothing to do with the EU, it is NATO who have been the peacekeepers and of course the biggest contributor to NATO, by far is the USA.

Many European countries have relied on America spending £billions on military equipment, and using their power to protect Europe, thus allowing them to reduce their own national spending on defence.

Take away the USA military might & the World would be a far different place now! Da!

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Doesn't this just mean you are basically getting a visa for £120 a year. Rights granted in the EU wouldn't apply in the UK?

that was for sizzle btw

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comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 22 minutes ago
I've no issue with The EU, why on earth should I? They have provided us all with peace, security, prosperity & rights (both human & employment) for decades.

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Peace has had little or nothing to do with the EU, it is NATO who have been the peacekeepers and of course the biggest contributor to NATO, by far is the USA.

Many European countries have relied on America spending £billions on military equipment, and using their power to protect Europe, thus allowing them to reduce their own national spending on defence.

Take away the USA military might & the World would be a far different place now! Da!
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To be fair Genius, if any country in Europe wanted to go alone in their defence spending, the USA would be beside themselves with rage, they like to think they are the policemen of the world, and they would have to take all their bases away from European Countries if they did not want to be part of a European Nato Programme, and they aint going to do that.

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when you and Sandy leaving then? Sizzle and Sandy sitting in a tree.............

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Forgive me for the length of the post but I have an answer. It's because of the ideological crossover between the radical left and hard right. This isn't something inherently new.

Take some of Trumps foreign policy statements to see what I mean.

Trump has questioned the value of NATO and implied he doesn't think Article 5 is fit for purpose [collective self-defence if one member is attacked, the British triggered this after 9/11].

Now this view is the absolute antithesis of the kind of politics held by the likes of Thatcher or Ronald Reagan. They would have taken the exact opposite position. Or more recently Cameron, May or Obama would have the opposite position.

But it just so happens to be exactly what Sizzles hero, Jeremy Corbyn, has believed in all his political life. And he said as much just a few months ago.

Look at Trumps view on Russian hostility more generally. He believes the West and America are to blame for Russia's adventurism in Ukraine. He has even said the U.S should legitimise Russia's occupation of Crimea. Once again, Thatcher and Reagan would be turning in their graves. But it just so happens Comrade Jeremy has said exactly the same thing quite recently.

The list goes on. Also look at his campaign against free trade and globalisation. Trump is against TTIP and the transatlantic free trade agreement generally
. Who else is? Cameron? No. May? No. Mitt Romney? No. Ah yes, of course, Saint Jeremy again!

Point here is that if you keep telling people over and over again that our political systems are "corrupt" and only work for the 1% etc, then eventually they are going to believe it and want radical change.

If you keep telling people over and over again that most of the worlds big problems are the fault of Western intervention or whatever, then they might eventually believe you, and vote for someone who brags about withdrawing from world affairs.

Sandy

You are wrong, the USA want European countries to gear them selves up to defend their borders. European countries have become complacent and think that America will rush to their aid at the drop of a hat.

America has been gradually withdrawing from certain countries for decades, they still have key installations in areas of Europe and also use of facilities in other areas.

The problem has been that because of the lethargy of European countries (UK included) they are spending trillions on weapons and military projects, if they could spend a third less then that money could be spent back home in the States on infrastructure

sizzle peddling falsehoods again.

Whilst Trump may say he will be looking at NATO, it is an integral part of the USA's strategic plan in terms of defence.

comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 1 minute ago
Sandy

You are wrong, the USA want European countries to gear them selves up to defend their borders. European countries have become complacent and think that America will rush to their aid at the drop of a hat.

America has been gradually withdrawing from certain countries for decades, they still have key installations in areas of Europe and also use of facilities in other areas.

The problem has been that because of the lethargy of European countries (UK included) they are spending trillions on weapons and military projects, if they could spend a third less then that money could be spent back home in the States on infrastructure
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Genius, sorry mate, but I am fed up with being a puppet state of the USA anyway. Nothing would please me more than to sever the so called special relationship with the USA. A bankrupt corrupt country with corrupt leaders. I would prefer Britain just to go it alone, most countries in the world do, we do not need to suck up to the States anymore, especially with Trump in charge.

comment by sandy, senior citizen, but young at heart (U20567)
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Sandy

You are wrong, the USA want European countries to gear them selves up to defend their borders. European countries have become complacent and think that America will rush to their aid at the drop of a hat.

America has been gradually withdrawing from certain countries for decades, they still have key installations in areas of Europe and also use of facilities in other areas.

The problem has been that because of the lethargy of European countries (UK included) they are spending trillions on weapons and military projects, if they could spend a third less then that money could be spent back home in the States on infrastructure
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Genius, sorry mate, but I am fed up with being a puppet state of the USA anyway. Nothing would please me more than to sever the so called special relationship with the USA. A bankrupt corrupt country with corrupt leaders. I would prefer Britain just to go it alone, most countries in the world do, we do not need to suck up to the States anymore, especially with Trump in charge.
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It is still the lifetime of some people that America quite literally saved this country and the rest of Western Europe.

It is in the lifetime of most of us that America saved Europe from the Soviet Union.

You and Corbyn are both utterly mad on this stuff. A world without American dominance will be a world on fire dominated by tyrants.