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I think it's not a relationship between the left overall, it's the authoritarian left more, which is actually remarkably close to the authoritarian right. I would say left/right is more about economic decisions, whereas fascism falls on the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum. To be honest, I actually think the whole left right thing divides people more than it should. Most people agree on many issues such as corruption, big business etc. but they differ on who they trust to do it or even how much can be done about it.

When looking at the extremes on both though, they share a very authoritarian outlook. I actually see some small parts of the anti-fascists as more of a threat to liberty because neo-nazis are generally seen as a joke fringe with no serious support.

I kind of feel sorry for people like Sizzle and people of his ilk and mindset. They are what the champagne socialists, Common Purpose elites sneeringly behind their backs refer to as "useful idiots". There was a time when left wing politics was about democracy, the working class, social justice and fighting the globalist agenda. Now that they are willingly in league with and totally in the pockets of big business they are all about preserving the status quo. To achieve this they need an army of committed but unfortunately misguided foot soldiers to agitate on their behalf. Divide and rule.

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As is often the case, Sizzle keeps on trolling until he ensures the article becomes about his favourite subject - himself.

Sizzle has his views and he sticks by them and good on him for that IMO

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comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hengy on the wum
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Why? Because I think someone should be respected for having an opinion and sticking by it?

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Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.

comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 17 minutes ago
Wow. What's going on here. Sizz gone full reeeeeets and sandy banging the left wing drum as usual. Thing I don't understand in all this is that in both brexit and this election is that the poor forgotten working classes have had enough and had their say by voting for something different and whether that's good or bad they think change is needed and MPs have ignored the public for far to long and it's about time they learnt to listen to people's concerns about their lives. Got Fk all to do wit the colour of someone's skin. Don is one of the nicest blokes on here and has explained his views and he voted out of brexit because he wants out of the EU like the rest of us that voted out. Fk al to do with closing borders. What he left wing people like sizzle don't understand is that they themselves have pushed people to the right because of the constant abuse of anyone with a different view to theirs. Get a life FFS we all have different views and beliefs and I don't believe hardly anyone on here is racist.
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Apart from you.

Honestly Weare since when has a billionaire businessman like Trump or an ex City Banker wheeler Dealer like Farage been a pal of the working class or the downtrodden. They are just using them to pursue their own agenda. You don't really think either have anything in common with the bottom of the rung they make out they are championing.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
HRH

"With regards Frog, there will be PC warriors that wouod class that as flat out racist"

I wouldn't say that it's racist to use the term Frog. However I wouldn't say it's acceptable either. It's not the 1950's anymore and we're not Alf Garnett. I'd like to think we've moved on from labelling person/persons based on which country they're from.
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Are French people who call us Rosbifs Alf Garnett?
Limeys?
I am more offended by a fart the morning after a curry to be honest.

What about a region within a country?

Mickey Mousers
Looters
Dingles

Etc

comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.
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If his opinion is you are a racist without foundation, or that you are praising the na zis he deserved to be shouted down

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Sandy was writing off a black player because of a haircut.....I mean come on

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comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.
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If his opinion is you are a racist without foundation, or that you are praising the na zis he deserved to be shouted down
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Is it without foundation? Maybe he interpreted comments differently to how people have intended?

Anyway like I say I respect him for having an opinion and sticking to it

comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 36 seconds ago
Ohh de have Hengy. So if someone abuses people can they not answer. Not that there's any point with sizzle or sandy as its in one ear and out the other and I just joined this debate and I repeat if reading back that's the opinion you have formed you can't read
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So now you are abusing me hmmm that should give me free reign to abuse you back then right?

comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.
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If his opinion is you are a racist without foundation, or that you are praising the na zis he deserved to be shouted down
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Is it without foundation? Maybe he interpreted comments differently to how people have intended?

Anyway like I say I respect him for having an opinion and sticking to it
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Do you respect Chicken?

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.
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If his opinion is you are a racist without foundation, or that you are praising the na zis he deserved to be shouted down

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Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Naz is. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.

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comment by Park Lane Geezer (U10205)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ツ Hєиgy (U9129)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes I can read and see abuse being thrown around by all of you

Doesn't change the fact it's his opinions and he shouldn't be shouted down because of them.
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If his opinion is you are a racist without foundation, or that you are praising the na zis he deserved to be shouted down

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Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Naz is. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.
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A bit different here because it was in the OP I will re-post the comments in question though....

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