comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first

comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs

I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted less than a minute ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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Apparently.

He must have learned his lesson.

Wish someone would just take the cwnt out.
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For a pint...am meeting him later, so will napper the nutter 😎

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comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
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Looks like Russia might be struggling with its military objectives, and have been unexpected by the scale of the Ukrainian resistance.

May well be disinformation, as right now a lot of unreliable information is flying around.

It will be good if true though
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I didn't want to post it earlier as I thought it might be wishful thinking, but I was thinking this too.

Now to get people's backs up... we need to give Putin a face saving solution... no, no, no, I'm not on Putin's side, I don't think he is right in invading, but he ain't going to go without something.
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Disagree entirely.

He needs putting back in his box, unceremoniously. There should be no compromise now.
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Agree with this, or in a few years he will be at it again.
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Tried that after WW1, it didn't work. WW2 a different approach was given and it worked.

Any deal works best when both parties feel they gained at the table.
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How will Ukraine gain via compromise?
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No more threat from Russia.

We all have a sneaky feeling Putin wants Ukraine in Russia, BUT he has repeatedly said it to do with NATO and separatists. Use the NATO part as the bargaining chip. Ukraine will not join NATO unless it has Russian approval. This way Putin will get something publicly and he can move the fool out of Ukraine.
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What?

The Ukraine is an independent country and should be free to join whatever defensive faction it likes, NATO especially.


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Should be able to... yeah, but that isn't the way of the world is it? You should be able to walk through downtown Rio at night with jewelry on. Chances are you won't come out with it.
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That has to be up there with one of the most ludicrous comparisons I’ve ever read.

The perpetrator if caught would be banged up in all likelihood.

Nothing like invading a free country of innocent people.
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If you say so. I see it as what is right Vs what is most likely.

And get caught? 🤣🤣🤣

Those innocent people are going to get slaughter with your approach.
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You should send your posts to the Kremlin and embolden them.

I’ve never read so much utter tosh in my life. Thank fwck your view are a rarity in a free world.
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Yeah, OK. 🤦‍♂️

I'm sure you would love to tell those men saying good ye to their families in Ukraine that we will arm them, now go and die. Jebus.
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Good Lord man. Don’t be so ridiculous.

Nobody wants a conflict and nobody wants people to die.

Yet a perpetrator who is doing exactly that is the man you want to appease.


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Appease? I suggest not allowing NATO membership for Russian withdrawal. You suggest arming Ukraine to the teeth and having NATO countries at the ready. 🤣🤣

Someone has hacked Gingers account.
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Not at all. I think the decision on`Ukraine potentially joining any pact should be up to them.

In hindsight if they had we probably wouldn’t be in this scenario.
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Fuel a paranoid schizophrenic. Great idea.
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Who said that?

Unite the Right🤣

The lefties are lovin this 😀


Kidding comrades✊😉


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the "wokies" are not as pacifist as it seems

they wanna fight the ruskies

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comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 1 minute ago
Looks like Russia might be struggling with its military objectives, and have been unexpected by the scale of the Ukrainian resistance.

May well be disinformation, as right now a lot of unreliable information is flying around.

It will be good if true though
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I didn't want to post it earlier as I thought it might be wishful thinking, but I was thinking this too.

Now to get people's backs up... we need to give Putin a face saving solution... no, no, no, I'm not on Putin's side, I don't think he is right in invading, but he ain't going to go without something.
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Disagree entirely.

He needs putting back in his box, unceremoniously. There should be no compromise now.
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Agree with this, or in a few years he will be at it again.
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Tried that after WW1, it didn't work. WW2 a different approach was given and it worked.

Any deal works best when both parties feel they gained at the table.
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How will Ukraine gain via compromise?
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No more threat from Russia.

We all have a sneaky feeling Putin wants Ukraine in Russia, BUT he has repeatedly said it to do with NATO and separatists. Use the NATO part as the bargaining chip. Ukraine will not join NATO unless it has Russian approval. This way Putin will get something publicly and he can move the fool out of Ukraine.
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What?

The Ukraine is an independent country and should be free to join whatever defensive faction it likes, NATO especially.


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Should be able to... yeah, but that isn't the way of the world is it? You should be able to walk through downtown Rio at night with jewelry on. Chances are you won't come out with it.
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That has to be up there with one of the most ludicrous comparisons I’ve ever read.

The perpetrator if caught would be banged up in all likelihood.

Nothing like invading a free country of innocent people.
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If you say so. I see it as what is right Vs what is most likely.

And get caught? 🤣🤣🤣

Those innocent people are going to get slaughter with your approach.
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You should send your posts to the Kremlin and embolden them.

I’ve never read so much utter tosh in my life. Thank fwck your view are a rarity in a free world.
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Yeah, OK. 🤦‍♂️

I'm sure you would love to tell those men saying good ye to their families in Ukraine that we will arm them, now go and die. Jebus.
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Good Lord man. Don’t be so ridiculous.

Nobody wants a conflict and nobody wants people to die.

Yet a perpetrator who is doing exactly that is the man you want to appease.


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Appease? I suggest not allowing NATO membership for Russian withdrawal. You suggest arming Ukraine to the teeth and having NATO countries at the ready. 🤣🤣

Someone has hacked Gingers account.
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Not at all. I think the decision on`Ukraine potentially joining any pact should be up to them.

In hindsight if they had we probably wouldn’t be in this scenario.
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Fuel a paranoid schizophrenic. Great idea.
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Who said that?

Unite the Right🤣

The lefties are lovin this 😀


Kidding comrades✊😉


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the "wokies" are not as pacifist as it seems

they wanna fight the ruskies
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Only after they’ve decide what pronoun to use for each other and taken everyone to task for the amount of fuel they’ve been using.

Bet they don’t even insulate their homes and wear fur.

Who ever said being woke = pacifist?
You're making things up now lad.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs
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I wonder what armed forces think and their families?

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posted 3 minutes ago
I do not see any relationship whatsoever between campaigns for social justice and equity in the West, and its governments’ readiness or willingness to defend Ukraine against the Russians.

Can someone explain how the two can be connected please? Because to me, the first appears to have absolutely zero influence on the second.
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It's just a sneaky way of conservatives blaming the left for Putin.
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No it isn’t. It’s a comment on focusing on the wrong things. That’s all.
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Why is it one or the other? Also it’s not as if focus has been on social justice and improving society for all, irrespective or race, gender or sexuality and Russia has snuck up on us catching us off guard. The threat of Russia and what it could do has been well known for years.

Unless this is a lament of the Conservatives who trot out phrases like “woke” and “culture wars” whilst giving golden visas to Oligarchs and accepting £2m in donations from Russians.
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👍
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It’s called priorities
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SatNav, you think we can't walk and chew gum at the same time?
WMDs can be designed and tested while we make rights more accessible to more people.
Oh and do you have gender specific toilets in your home? I don't think anyone does.

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 31 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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No. We kick him out of Ukraine with the condition he stays the feck out.
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Which is EXACTLY what hes agreed on the other occasions.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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posted 30 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs
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I wonder what armed forces think and their families?


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Usually pride I’ve found but if it’s any easier nobody wants anyone to die

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs
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I wonder what armed forces think and their families?
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Yeah, doubt it crossed their mind when they signed up...for the military!

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comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 32 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs
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I wonder what armed forces think and their families?
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Yeah, doubt it crossed their mind when they signed up...for the military!
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“Kin ah just play wi the guns?”

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
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I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.
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And in a ridiculous hypothetical situation, humour me. Should WW3 happen (with no nukes) and the UK takes the Ukraine approach and states anyone male under 60 must fight against Russia. Are you happy to take arms because Ukraine has the right to NATO?
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Yes. its had to happen before, and while we allow boils like russia to fester it will continue to happen.

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We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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yeah no more "appeasement"

go over there and fight the Russian Army

I take it you're signing up to go over there first
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Unlikely any of us.

I suppose that’s why we have armed forces.

ffs
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I wonder what armed forces think and their families?
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Yeah, doubt it crossed their mind when they signed up...for the military!
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fighting against poorly armed and trained 17 yr old Iraqis maybe

bet they didnt think they'd have to fight the Russian Army

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I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.
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And in a ridiculous hypothetical situation, humour me. Should WW3 happen (with no nukes) and the UK takes the Ukraine approach and states anyone male under 60 must fight against Russia. Are you happy to take arms because Ukraine has the right to NATO?
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If it’s WWIII then of course. What else would. We do?

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comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 1 minute ago
Looks like Russia might be struggling with its military objectives, and have been unexpected by the scale of the Ukrainian resistance.

May well be disinformation, as right now a lot of unreliable information is flying around.

It will be good if true though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn't want to post it earlier as I thought it might be wishful thinking, but I was thinking this too.

Now to get people's backs up... we need to give Putin a face saving solution... no, no, no, I'm not on Putin's side, I don't think he is right in invading, but he ain't going to go without something.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Disagree entirely.

He needs putting back in his box, unceremoniously. There should be no compromise now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with this, or in a few years he will be at it again.
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Tried that after WW1, it didn't work. WW2 a different approach was given and it worked.

Any deal works best when both parties feel they gained at the table.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How will Ukraine gain via compromise?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No more threat from Russia.

We all have a sneaky feeling Putin wants Ukraine in Russia, BUT he has repeatedly said it to do with NATO and separatists. Use the NATO part as the bargaining chip. Ukraine will not join NATO unless it has Russian approval. This way Putin will get something publicly and he can move the fool out of Ukraine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What?

The Ukraine is an independent country and should be free to join whatever defensive faction it likes, NATO especially.


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Should be able to... yeah, but that isn't the way of the world is it? You should be able to walk through downtown Rio at night with jewelry on. Chances are you won't come out with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That has to be up there with one of the most ludicrous comparisons I’ve ever read.

The perpetrator if caught would be banged up in all likelihood.

Nothing like invading a free country of innocent people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you say so. I see it as what is right Vs what is most likely.

And get caught? 🤣🤣🤣

Those innocent people are going to get slaughter with your approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You should send your posts to the Kremlin and embolden them.

I’ve never read so much utter tosh in my life. Thank fwck your view are a rarity in a free world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, OK. 🤦‍♂️

I'm sure you would love to tell those men saying good ye to their families in Ukraine that we will arm them, now go and die. Jebus.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Good Lord man. Don’t be so ridiculous.

Nobody wants a conflict and nobody wants people to die.

Yet a perpetrator who is doing exactly that is the man you want to appease.


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Appease? I suggest not allowing NATO membership for Russian withdrawal. You suggest arming Ukraine to the teeth and having NATO countries at the ready. 🤣🤣

Someone has hacked Gingers account.
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Not at all. I think the decision on`Ukraine potentially joining any pact should be up to them.

In hindsight if they had we probably wouldn’t be in this scenario.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fuel a paranoid schizophrenic. Great idea.
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Who said that?

Unite the Right🤣

The lefties are lovin this 😀


Kidding comrades✊😉


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the "wokies" are not as pacifist as it seems

they wanna fight the ruskies
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Reds under the beds used to be a rightie thing🤨

Turns out, USSR, KGB, Russia is a bit naughty and the great Satan, imperialist capitalist dogs of America- UK, were right?

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 31 seconds ago
We appeased him with Ukranian nukes,

We appeased him with Crimea

Now we need to appease him again?
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No. We kick him out of Ukraine with the condition he stays the feck out.
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Which is EXACTLY what hes agreed on the other occasions.
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GO back a few pages, yeah I know you won't, I wouldn't either, the agreement is

NO NATO, NO INVASION
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What agreement is this?

Is there some contract whereby if the`Ukraine joins NATO they are invaded by Russia?

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.
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And in a ridiculous hypothetical situation, humour me. Should WW3 happen (with no nukes) and the UK takes the Ukraine approach and states anyone male under 60 must fight against Russia. Are you happy to take arms because Ukraine has the right to NATO?
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Ridiculous scenario but to humour you, why not?
I'm a freedom loving person, I'm proud to live in a freedom loving country, one of the myths we tell ourselves is we fought against tyranny, you flag5haggers are all mouth.

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posted 29 seconds ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.
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And in a ridiculous hypothetical situation, humour me. Should WW3 happen (with no nukes) and the UK takes the Ukraine approach and states anyone male under 60 must fight against Russia. Are you happy to take arms because Ukraine has the right to NATO?
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If it’s WWIII then of course. What else would. We do?
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Am now Swiss Tony tbab then 🙏🤣

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
I'd imagine then standing armies would be the first to go over.
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And in a ridiculous hypothetical situation, humour me. Should WW3 happen (with no nukes) and the UK takes the Ukraine approach and states anyone male under 60 must fight against Russia. Are you happy to take arms because Ukraine has the right to NATO?
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Yes. its had to happen before, and while we allow boils like russia to fester it will continue to happen.
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You would die so Ukraine can join NATO?
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Quantum leap time