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They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
Winter fuel allowance isn't being fully removed, pensioners (in England and Wales only) on pension benefits are still getting it.
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They’re also proactively contacting pensioners who are not accessing winter fuel payments when they are entitled to it.
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Are they? Wasn't aware of that and at least that's positive.
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From the independent
‘ Pensioners whose weekly income is below £218.15 for a single person or £332.95 for a couple should check to see if they could be eligible for pension credit.
On top of the benefit, it is a gateway to support with housing costs, council tax, the TV licence, and the winter fuel payment worth up to £300.
The government’s new pension credit awareness drive will help identify households not claiming the benefit, and encourage them to apply by 21 December.
That is the final date for making a backdated claim for pension credit, in order to receive the winter fuel payment.
About 1.4 million pensioners already receive pension credit but up to an estimated 880,000 households eligible for the support fail to claim.
Many incorrectly believe they are not entitled, have been ruled out owing to savings, or say they do not like to accept what they regard as handouts.’
So all Labour have done is attempt to stop winter payments for those that don’t NEED them and are proactively trying to contact those that do.
The likes of the Daily Heil, Telegraph and S*n somehow seem to have missed this in their reporting.
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It's good that they are proactively trying to help claimants.
I still believe far too many will suffer as a result of this and they won't be from the well heeled backgrounds
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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posted 3 minutes ago
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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posted 1 minute ago
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Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
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No
I'm saying that many pensioners will suffer as a result of withdrawing the fuel benefit
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
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posted 1 minute ago
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Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
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No
I'm saying that many pensioners will suffer as a result of withdrawing the fuel benefit
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That’s just crazy back to front thinking for me.
Every thing done, good or bad, just or unjust, is done in the past
Its the present now...under a new broom and now its time time to decide who can and has to pay to fix it..
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They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
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You posted your uninformed crap first. You cant expect some people not to diagree or challenge you on a forum like this.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 30 seconds ago
Every thing done, good or bad, just or unjust, is done in the past
Its the present now...under a new broom and now its time time to decide who can and has to pay to fix it..
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I completely agree. All I'm asking is for some semblance of who exactly is going "to pay" and how?
If you are going to the population and asking for 10 years of service at the top with a statement that things will just get worse before they get better, don't you think that when spending money we don't yet have on wage rises for train drivers and the like without any form of a return in improvement, and above inflation wages to junior doctors again without any agreement on how things could be bettered might not be the best of first moves to be made?
Particularly when one of those parties announce immediately they will go back on strike and the other that they will most likely do the same next year?
And at the same time reduce pensioners heating allowances as we head into colder months after a shiitshow of a summer when many had to keep their heating on?
I expected better to be honest and certainly not just to plunge in and award these increases which now look like weakness or even worse "payback".
I did actually credit Starmer with some hope and to be honest it is still there. As for Gray, Reeves and Rayner, absolutely not.
The mood music has been firmly set and it has changed significantly from one of improvement (which to be honest should be easy after the last lot), to one of doom and gloom with no idea of when, how and if things might improve and lift the spirits of our country.
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They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
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You posted your uninformed crap first. You cant expect some people not to diagree or challenge you on a forum like this.
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Oh dear. whilst you can view other people's opinions or questions as "uninformed crap", that doesn't make you right. It's all about opinions.
Of course I expect responses. That's what the forum is for. I am confused when you say we are poles apart in our views and you want to leave it there, yet continue to interact.
Which do you prefer?
Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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Strangely, your brain wasn't telling you this when you were rabidly defending Brexit and the Tories. You didn't seem to care how corporates would react to Brexit, just kept banging on about immigration
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What’s a real “G”
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?
Is this in reference to the filter line above? I can't even remember who it was
It was in Oscar’s comment about the orange moron
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted about a minute ago
It was in Oscar’s comment about the orange moron
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Ah
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
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Sounds like a certain Culer (RIP), no?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
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<lagh>
Just can't get into US politics at all.
As for Trump. Fwck me, I'm happy with the relative mess our political scene is compared to that
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
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<lagh>
Just can't get into US politics at all.
As for Trump. Fwck me, I'm happy with the relative mess our political scene is compared to that
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The fact Trump claims Farage is one of his closest friends says it all
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury #TeamTrump2024 #FightFightFight (U12980)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Trump’s a real G, Kamala and Biden are just rats, only care about themselves and their own ego’s.
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Dial it back man
U can overwum u no
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posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
Winter fuel allowance isn't being fully removed, pensioners (in England and Wales only) on pension benefits are still getting it.
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They’re also proactively contacting pensioners who are not accessing winter fuel payments when they are entitled to it.
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Are they? Wasn't aware of that and at least that's positive.
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From the independent
‘ Pensioners whose weekly income is below £218.15 for a single person or £332.95 for a couple should check to see if they could be eligible for pension credit.
On top of the benefit, it is a gateway to support with housing costs, council tax, the TV licence, and the winter fuel payment worth up to £300.
The government’s new pension credit awareness drive will help identify households not claiming the benefit, and encourage them to apply by 21 December.
That is the final date for making a backdated claim for pension credit, in order to receive the winter fuel payment.
About 1.4 million pensioners already receive pension credit but up to an estimated 880,000 households eligible for the support fail to claim.
Many incorrectly believe they are not entitled, have been ruled out owing to savings, or say they do not like to accept what they regard as handouts.’
So all Labour have done is attempt to stop winter payments for those that don’t NEED them and are proactively trying to contact those that do.
The likes of the Daily Heil, Telegraph and S*n somehow seem to have missed this in their reporting.
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It's good that they are proactively trying to help claimants.
I still believe far too many will suffer as a result of this and they won't be from the well heeled backgrounds
posted on 27/8/24
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
posted on 27/8/24
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
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No
I'm saying that many pensioners will suffer as a result of withdrawing the fuel benefit
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
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They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
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comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well that’s down to the energy companies, who have managed to post record profits during an ‘energy crisis’.
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No. It's down to the removal of allowances. Tax these companies all anyone likes. All I'm saying is that there will be an adverse reaction and it may well be worse if they stop investing and employing.
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Sorry, are you saying that the increases in energy are not down to the energy companies, such as British Gas, making a record 10 fold increase in profits?
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No
I'm saying that many pensioners will suffer as a result of withdrawing the fuel benefit
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That’s just crazy back to front thinking for me.
posted on 27/8/24
Every thing done, good or bad, just or unjust, is done in the past
Its the present now...under a new broom and now its time time to decide who can and has to pay to fix it..
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
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Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
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You posted your uninformed crap first. You cant expect some people not to diagree or challenge you on a forum like this.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 30 seconds ago
Every thing done, good or bad, just or unjust, is done in the past
Its the present now...under a new broom and now its time time to decide who can and has to pay to fix it..
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I completely agree. All I'm asking is for some semblance of who exactly is going "to pay" and how?
If you are going to the population and asking for 10 years of service at the top with a statement that things will just get worse before they get better, don't you think that when spending money we don't yet have on wage rises for train drivers and the like without any form of a return in improvement, and above inflation wages to junior doctors again without any agreement on how things could be bettered might not be the best of first moves to be made?
Particularly when one of those parties announce immediately they will go back on strike and the other that they will most likely do the same next year?
And at the same time reduce pensioners heating allowances as we head into colder months after a shiitshow of a summer when many had to keep their heating on?
I expected better to be honest and certainly not just to plunge in and award these increases which now look like weakness or even worse "payback".
I did actually credit Starmer with some hope and to be honest it is still there. As for Gray, Reeves and Rayner, absolutely not.
The mood music has been firmly set and it has changed significantly from one of improvement (which to be honest should be easy after the last lot), to one of doom and gloom with no idea of when, how and if things might improve and lift the spirits of our country.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have only been in power for 6 weeks or so and are still finding out the true level.of the mess this country is in. Im sure we will get a budget announcement when they are ready. Letes hope that the fat rich and greedy corporates and business are charged with funding what is required to fix the UK and not the working poor. Dont forget that the Tories wanted to cut benefits to pay for their own mess.
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Who would you classify as fat rich and greedy corporates that can be successfully targeted to raise enough taxation to fix the UK without them making any number of potential moves that could be more damaging to the economy and workforce?
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They can afford it. Also also tax the super rich individuals. They caused most of the mess
A lot more than the working poor pensioners and those on benefits can. Y
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Who are those companies?
As for super rich individuals, they will simply move their wealth. That is already happening.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Supermarketsenergy and utiity companies etc. have made record profits during covid and the 'COL' crisis. If indeed you need telling. Compay directors whode own personal incomes have rocketed in the same period who avoid tax. The gulf between rich and poor has widened massively. So those with the broadest soldiers must make up lions share to fix things. Imagine a plan to do so by cutting benefits of the poorest people in society to pay for the mess as the Torys propsed. Ffs.
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Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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I say squirm.
You are a tory... im not... so we wont agree about life. Leave it at that.
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Not an issue
I would point out that you actually responded to my post in the first place
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You posted your uninformed crap first. You cant expect some people not to diagree or challenge you on a forum like this.
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Oh dear. whilst you can view other people's opinions or questions as "uninformed crap", that doesn't make you right. It's all about opinions.
Of course I expect responses. That's what the forum is for. I am confused when you say we are poles apart in our views and you want to leave it there, yet continue to interact.
Which do you prefer?
posted on 27/8/24
Those profits were in the past, so unless there is evidence of further "excessive" profiteering as result of them continuing to benefit from anything other than day to day trading (eg a Force Majeure), then it's just simply increasing taxes which I alluded to earlier.
As they've ruled out employee income taxation and national insurance rises,, then personal incomes won't be a target. Unless of course they change their minds again.
So effectively, all that's covered here is a rise in corporation tax. Again which I alluded to earlier. Do that and companies will react.
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Strangely, your brain wasn't telling you this when you were rabidly defending Brexit and the Tories. You didn't seem to care how corporates would react to Brexit, just kept banging on about immigration
posted on 27/8/24
What’s a real “G”
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
What’s a real “G”
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Is this in reference to the filter line above? I can't even remember who it was
posted on 27/8/24
It was in Oscar’s comment about the orange moron
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted about a minute ago
It was in Oscar’s comment about the orange moron
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Ah
posted on 27/8/24
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
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Sounds like a certain Culer (RIP), no?
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
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<lagh>
Just can't get into US politics at all.
As for Trump. Fwck me, I'm happy with the relative mess our political scene is compared to that
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
Oscar just pops up, throws his grenade of stupid then ducks back down into his bunker/basement.
Going on about Trump being some peacenik whilst some of his followers threaten actual civil war if their guy isn't democratically elected.
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<lagh>
Just can't get into US politics at all.
As for Trump. Fwck me, I'm happy with the relative mess our political scene is compared to that
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posted on 27/8/24
The fact Trump claims Farage is one of his closest friends says it all
posted on 27/8/24
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury #TeamTrump2024 #FightFightFight (U12980)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Trump’s a real G, Kamala and Biden are just rats, only care about themselves and their own ego’s.
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Dial it back man
U can overwum u no
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