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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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You wrote that Labour have “given way above wage increases to the junior doctors with no return on improvement other than the guarantee of further strikes”

I mean that verbatim. What exactly did you mean then?
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With no return on performance being the issue. When wage awards are given they usually involve some improvement, savings elsewhere or something tangible. That’s the usual course of events
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That would make a bit of sense if they were chronically underpaid to start with. They were on less than minimum wage ffs.
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At such a rate above inflation it would be normal practice to have some form of improvement in negotiations.

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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whilst depriving all but the very poorest of pensioners of a paltry heating allowance which means everything to the vast majority of them."
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Plus this is simply made up
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Absolutely not made up at all.

Christ. It’s like battering your head off a brick wall in here at times
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So they’ve not deprived the poorest… but the ones it dies affect, it means “everything to them”.

I think you should maybe consider changing your posting style. We’re not Tory scvm, so maybe don’t understand nauseating spin. Accommodate us.
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All but the very poorest.
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You think the ‘vast majority’ of pensioners (again, your words) the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to them do ya?
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Yes. No idea why you would find that hilarious. Why do you think it was given in the first place?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
You wrote that Labour have “given way above wage increases to the junior doctors with no return on improvement other than the guarantee of further strikes”

I mean that verbatim. What exactly did you mean then?
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With no return on performance being the issue. When wage awards are given they usually involve some improvement, savings elsewhere or something tangible. That’s the usual course of events
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That would make a bit of sense if they were chronically underpaid to start with. They were on less than minimum wage ffs.
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At such a rate above inflation it would be normal practice to have some form of improvement in negotiations.
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Just for banter, how would a junior doctor improve? Save more lives?

I really don’t think you have a clue what you’re on about when it comes to the NHS tbh. They were getting about £7.50 an hour pro-rata.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
You wrote that Labour have “given way above wage increases to the junior doctors with no return on improvement other than the guarantee of further strikes”

I mean that verbatim. What exactly did you mean then?
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With no return on performance being the issue. When wage awards are given they usually involve some improvement, savings elsewhere or something tangible. That’s the usual course of events
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That would make a bit of sense if they were chronically underpaid to start with. They were on less than minimum wage ffs.
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You haven't had a real term pay rise since 2008 but if you work a bit harder we'll give you what you're owed. It's like Oliver Twist in A&E

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
whilst depriving all but the very poorest of pensioners of a paltry heating allowance which means everything to the vast majority of them."
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Plus this is simply made up
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Absolutely not made up at all.

Christ. It’s like battering your head off a brick wall in here at times
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So they’ve not deprived the poorest… but the ones it dies affect, it means “everything to them”.

I think you should maybe consider changing your posting style. We’re not Tory scvm, so maybe don’t understand nauseating spin. Accommodate us.
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All but the very poorest.
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You think the ‘vast majority’ of pensioners (again, your words) the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to them do ya?
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Yes. No idea why you would find that hilarious. Why do you think it was given in the first place?
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Same reason we give a pension, they’re retired.

Happy to see anything, at all, that suggests the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to those now not entitled to it. Anything will do.

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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You wrote that Labour have “given way above wage increases to the junior doctors with no return on improvement other than the guarantee of further strikes”

I mean that verbatim. What exactly did you mean then?
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With no return on performance being the issue. When wage awards are given they usually involve some improvement, savings elsewhere or something tangible. That’s the usual course of events
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That would make a bit of sense if they were chronically underpaid to start with. They were on less than minimum wage ffs.
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At such a rate above inflation it would be normal practice to have some form of improvement in negotiations.
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Just for banter, how would a junior doctor improve? Save more lives?

I really don’t think you have a clue what you’re on about when it comes to the NHS tbh. They were getting about £7.50 an hour pro-rata.
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If you say so. No point in going any further

It’s fine if you can’t say.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
whilst depriving all but the very poorest of pensioners of a paltry heating allowance which means everything to the vast majority of them."
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Plus this is simply made up
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Absolutely not made up at all.

Christ. It’s like battering your head off a brick wall in here at times
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So they’ve not deprived the poorest… but the ones it dies affect, it means “everything to them”.

I think you should maybe consider changing your posting style. We’re not Tory scvm, so maybe don’t understand nauseating spin. Accommodate us.
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All but the very poorest.
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You think the ‘vast majority’ of pensioners (again, your words) the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to them do ya?
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Yes. No idea why you would find that hilarious. Why do you think it was given in the first place?
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Same reason we give a pension, they’re retired.

Happy to see anything, at all, that suggests the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to those now not entitled to it. Anything will do.
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Ah. Ok. It’s the word “everything” that means so much to you.

Okay. A lot then

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
whilst depriving all but the very poorest of pensioners of a paltry heating allowance which means everything to the vast majority of them."
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Plus this is simply made up
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Absolutely not made up at all.

Christ. It’s like battering your head off a brick wall in here at times
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So they’ve not deprived the poorest… but the ones it dies affect, it means “everything to them”.

I think you should maybe consider changing your posting style. We’re not Tory scvm, so maybe don’t understand nauseating spin. Accommodate us.
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All but the very poorest.
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You think the ‘vast majority’ of pensioners (again, your words) the winter fuel payment means ‘everything’ to them do ya?
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Yes. No idea why you would find that hilarious. Why do you think it was given in the first place?
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Greedy energy companies raising prices to the point of unaffordable for many whilst declaring quarterly profits in the BILLIONS. The Tories were happy to let this happen without taxing what was a period of blatant profiteering. Greed is good of you know the right people.

But spurious isn’t it?

I mean they’re simple questions.

How does a junior doctor improve performance?

Do you have anything at all to demonstrate the winter fuel payments mean ‘a lot’ to those no longer eligible.

Anything factual will do.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
It’s fine if you can’t say.
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You’ve a long history of dishing out insults at me until you decide you don’t want to interact.

Then you choose to interact and again resort to insults. So no; this time I’ll decide to “leave it there”.

Weird way of saying “I can’t “ but okay!

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
whilst depriving all but the very poorest of pensioners of a paltry heating allowance which means everything to the vast majority of them."
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Plus this is simply made up
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Absolutely not made up at all.

Christ. It’s like battering your head off a brick wall in here at times
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So they’ve not deprived the poorest… but the ones it dies affect, it means “everything to them”.

I think you should maybe consider changing your posting style. We’re not Tory scvm, so maybe don’t understand nauseating spin. Accommodate us.
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Robbing

Being paid a decent wage and not having the external worries about paying the mortgage/rent and usual bills is surely bound to improve a doctors performance at work?

Or we could keep squeezing them on 2008 wages and 70 hour weeks whilst scratching our heads at why mistakes are made and performance is poor.

This doesn't worry your average Tory politician who if in a dire situation has access to private health care and doctors paid a decent wage, many of whom are moonlighting from the NHS or have left the public sector for better paid private.

They can literally fack the country up, like Johnson, Truss and Sunak et al have, without consequence. At that level failure is rewarded with lucrative speaking engagements or newspaper columns.

Yeah but Labour..........

‘Paltry’ amount means ‘everything’ to ‘vast amount’ of pensioners… the maths don’t work really do they.

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posted 19 seconds ago
Robbing

Being paid a decent wage and not having the external worries about paying the mortgage/rent and usual bills is surely bound to improve a doctors performance at work?

Or we could keep squeezing them on 2008 wages and 70 hour weeks whilst scratching our heads at why mistakes are made and performance is poor.

This doesn't worry your average Tory politician who if in a dire situation has access to private health care and doctors paid a decent wage, many of whom are moonlighting from the NHS or have left the public sector for better paid private.

They can literally fack the country up, like Johnson, Truss and Sunak et al have, without consequence. At that level failure is rewarded with lucrative speaking engagements or newspaper columns.

Yeah but Labour..........
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Most know I used to be a nurse. Many know I left due to the working conditions.

I can assure everybody that junior doctors are treated like shiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

70 hour weeks with, at best, one registrar to refer to whilst making life and death decisions after studying over half a decade.

Anyone who thinks they don’t deserve this needs to get in the bin. The Tories have taken advantage of these wonderful people for too long.

Guy that threw stones at Nigel Farage given a suspended sentence.

Two tier policing.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
Guy that threw stones at Nigel Farage given a suspended sentence.

Two tier policing.
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He did what?

ffs

What did he expect?

Who’d even want to be a politician these days?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lgl9kypno

Thames Water need to increase bills 59% to ’survive’.



Absolute grifters who should face criminal prosecution.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
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Guy that threw stones at Nigel Farage given a suspended sentence.

Two tier policing.
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He did what?

ffs

What did he expect?

Who’d even want to be a politician these days?
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https://news.sky.com/video/nigel-farage-attacked-reform-uk-leader-dodges-objects-thrown-by-protester-on-campaign-trail-13151364


Not saying he shouldn't have been punished, just more a.mo for the perma-offended right winger to whine about whilst defending rioters.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lgl9kypno

Thames Water need to increase bills 59% to ’survive’.



Absolute grifters who should face criminal prosecution.
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Just take it back into public ownership and let the shareholders sue the directors for any compensation due.

At least put a ban on dividends until they're solvent.

Thames water alone have paid out £7.2bn in dividends over the last 30 years.

Lock them up.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 29 seconds ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lgl9kypno

Thames Water need to increase bills 59% to ’survive’.



Absolute grifters who should face criminal prosecution.
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Just take it back into public ownership and let the shareholders sue the directors for any compensation due.
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Yep.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
Guy that threw stones at Nigel Farage given a suspended sentence.

Two tier policing.
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He did what?

ffs

What did he expect?

Who’d even want to be a politician these days?
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https://news.sky.com/video/nigel-farage-attacked-reform-uk-leader-dodges-objects-thrown-by-protester-on-campaign-trail-13151364


Not saying he shouldn't have been punished, just more a.mo for the perma-offended right winger to whine about whilst defending rioters.
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Sod that. The law is the law. Rioters or whatever