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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Stopping In-Work Benefits, which are basically subsidies to big corporations like Uber, would save more money than targetting pensioners.
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And would also fack over millions of people and their kids
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No, it would force wealthy companies to pay the Living Wage out of their own pockets rather than using government subsidies
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And with a snap their fingers companies will instantly pay their staff more if the govt take away benefits
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If they want to continue, then yes.
We’re not not talking about small companies trying to expand here, it big firms like Tesco or multinationals like Uber that take full advantage.
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posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
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Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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Yeah, that doesn't change or affect anything I said.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
Ginge - I don’t know why you bother mate. You won’t get any reasoned debate.
Take Amazon - “ oh they pay no tax they’re horrible” etc etc
No mention nor understanding of the consequential taxes paid by employees, millions of businesses and employees, only focus on the top corporations.
Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience.
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So because Amazon's employees and linked businesses pay tax it's OK for Amazon not to pay tax.
Fack me. I'd forgotten the genius on this thread. Thanks for the reminder.
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posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Israeli occupation soldiers throw injured men from a rooftop in Qabatiya outside Jenin in the occupied West Bank earlier today. This is Israel’s “self defence”
https://x.com/hzomlot/status/1836842024990847080?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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Jews make news
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Plus - rhyming is always fun
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You’re a poet and you didn’t know it
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posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
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Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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And Ginge doesn’t come across as anything like weak-minded. That’s just a poor insult similar to what you often come out with to anyone that disagrees with you or generally has opposing viewpoints to you.
Person A thinks similar to what I do - great
Person B thinks differently to me - weak-minded
Let’s be honest Mambinator - weak-minded people feel this way.
Difference of opinion, same as beliefs, looks, experience is arguably one of the most beautiful parts of life as a free human being; embrace it, don’t shun it and try to stifle it.
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I agree he's not weak-minded. I used the wrong word. He's just so susceptible to propaganda around culture, immigration and race that he voted to hurt and damage the country and watched for 14 years as everything went to sheet and was willing to suffer the consequences so long as they stop the boats.
Wish he'd repeat his little speeches about black people in London during BLM. Wanted to take back rrrr country and said we weren't patriotic, now he's making excuses for rich people who don't pay tax fairly and saying it's OK so long as it's legal. Facking joke and he shouldn't be allowed to just chameleon his way around debates. Stick to your true colours you hypocrite.
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
The UK's public sector debt has hit 100% of the value of the country's annual economic output for the first time since the 1960s, according to official figures released ahead of the chancellor's maiden budget.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, in a preliminary estimate, that the figure had risen from the 99.3% figure recorded the previous month.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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Meanwhile the rich have added another trillion to their portfolios. But it's all legal so it's OK.
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posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
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Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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And Ginge doesn’t come across as anything like weak-minded. That’s just a poor insult similar to what you often come out with to anyone that disagrees with you or generally has opposing viewpoints to you.
Person A thinks similar to what I do - great
Person B thinks differently to me - weak-minded
Let’s be honest Mambinator - weak-minded people feel this way.
Difference of opinion, same as beliefs, looks, experience is arguably one of the most beautiful parts of life as a free human being; embrace it, don’t shun it and try to stifle it.
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Oh it’s him that is the filtered one that seems to latch onto pretty much anything I post
Petty and bitter little individual and a coward at that by posting insults and untruths behind my back when he knows they’re not being seen by me.
Dearie me
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You have me filtered because I wouldn't let you pretend to be some reasonable type. You're a bottom of the barrel, bitter and full of bile Tory trying to chameleon your way out of racism, xenophobia and all the disgusting sheet you backed and made excuses for for 14 years. You weren't the only one but you were the worst and the most unremorseful and hard headed mo-4 on here. None of the others have the audacity to still show their faces here anymore except you.
Where are you now? Tories still let in record number of immigrants. You got nothing in return for all that hate and the bonus of the country bring in it's knees.
Stick to what you backed so vehemently for 14 years. Such strong views cannot just change because Tories lost the election. You know what you are.
Trump: If I don’t win this election.. the Jewish people would have a lot to do with that if that happens
https://x.com/acyn/status/1836943394112729399?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Que??
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
The UK's public sector debt has hit 100% of the value of the country's annual economic output for the first time since the 1960s, according to official figures released ahead of the chancellor's maiden budget.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, in a preliminary estimate, that the figure had risen from the 99.3% figure recorded the previous month.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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Meanwhile the rich have added another trillion to their portfolios. But it's all legal so it's OK.
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“We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis
Fricking Jewish laser beams from space innit
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posted 1 minute ago
Trump: If I don’t win this election.. the Jewish people would have a lot to do with that if that happens
https://x.com/acyn/status/1836943394112729399?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Que??
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What in the fack? That guy is so, so dangerous.
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
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I'm interested if you find it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjenjANqAk
This is one such example, when politicians discuss, debate, and act with dignity. I wish Trump would just stop his campaign and step aside. It is obvious he's still doing this to stay out of legal issues.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
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comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjenjANqAk
This is one such example, when politicians discuss, debate, and act with dignity. I wish Trump would just stop his campaign and step aside. It is obvious he's still doing this to stay out of legal issues.
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At the time you take it for granted. It's was what you expected.
Fast forward to today and it seems like a big deal looking back at such chivalry.
This woman should be locked up
https://x.com/skynews/status/1837048317878096313?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
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I'm interested if you find it.
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The American realist political scientist John Mearsheimer has also done *a lot* of interesting work on why politicians lie.
I don’t agree with all of his conclusions (whilst recognising the weight of their worth - he’s spent half a career researching the subject), but I’d very strongly recommend checking it out to anyone interested in geopolitical manouvering and the concept of realpolitik.
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Dearie me
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Really mate, you gotta stop using Dearie Me and a laugh emoji as some kind of definitive, clever and cutting retort. Many of you posts on this conversation alone is littererd with it.
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If it winds anyone else up, meh. Job done as far as I’m concerned. Many feel it’s ok to cast ludicrous aspersions against me, insult me and generally act in a manner they wouldn’t have the balls to do in front of my face.
So essentially, fwck that. I’ll use it how and whenever the inclination takes me.
In another sense, it’s more of a pitiful and scornful dismissal of some tripe that’s yet again be written against me.
How some people have the audacity to try and categorise me, make up utter nonsense and try and proclaim it as my thought processes is quite staggering at times. One individual (can’t even recall his old user name) does it in full knowledge I can’t read it as I chose to ignore his patter years ago. Why he persists is quite beyond any rational comprehension. It’s almost creepy and stinks to high heaven of either jealousy or a lack of self worth. Not really sure and couldn’t care less.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
Ginge - I don’t know why you bother mate. You won’t get any reasoned debate.
Take Amazon - “ oh they pay no tax they’re horrible” etc etc
No mention nor understanding of the consequential taxes paid by employees, millions of businesses and employees, only focus on the top corporations.
Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience.
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So because Amazon's employees and linked businesses pay tax it's OK for Amazon not to pay tax.
Fack me. I'd forgotten the genius on this thread. Thanks for the reminder.
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Did Sat Nav just try and justify Amazon not paying the correct tax because their employees pay tax?
"Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience."
Well as long as they pay their staff the minimum possible that's okay then.
Sat Nav got drunk and went full Tory.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/7kRKmJyZXJE
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Dearie me
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Really mate, you gotta stop using Dearie Me and a laugh emoji as some kind of definitive, clever and cutting retort. Many of you posts on this conversation alone is littererd with it.
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If it winds anyone else up, meh. Job done as far as I’m concerned. Many feel it’s ok to cast ludicrous aspersions against me, insult me and generally act in a manner they wouldn’t have the balls to do in front of my face.
So essentially, fwck that. I’ll use it how and whenever the inclination takes me.
In another sense, it’s more of a pitiful and scornful dismissal of some tripe that’s yet again be written against me.
How some people have the audacity to try and categorise me, make up utter nonsense and try and proclaim it as my thought processes is quite staggering at times. One individual (can’t even recall his old user name) does it in full knowledge I can’t read it as I chose to ignore his patter years ago. Why he persists is quite beyond any rational comprehension. It’s almost creepy and stinks to high heaven of either jealousy or a lack of self worth. Not really sure and couldn’t care less.
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Who the fack do you think you're kidding? You read all my posts and I know you do. You filtered me because I was getting in the way of your attempts to sanitise your views after opening the floodgates of your Tory nature back when you thought it was gonna be Tories Forever.
‘Nigel Farage is due to speak at a global conference that celebrates rich individuals who lower their tax bill by moving cash – and their citizenship – to other countries.
In a video promoting the ‘Nomad Capitalist’ event in Kuala Lumpur in September, the Brexiteer talks about an alleged “brain drain” in the UK and blames the Conservative Government for bringing in “rules about non-doms” – people registered abroad for tax purposes – claiming that “the exodus is beginning”. He also praises the Nomad Capitalist firm for “giving people best advice on where to go, and how to do it”.
The event promises to teach attendees “legal strategies that actually work in 2024 to reduce your taxes, build a global Plan B, and diversify and protect your wealth around the world”. It will be Farage‘s second time addressing the conference.’
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/09/nigel-farage-nomad-capitalist-speaker/
Man of the people (but still hasn’t held a single constituency surgery).
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 33 seconds ago
‘Nigel Farage is due to speak at a global conference that celebrates rich individuals who lower their tax bill by moving cash – and their citizenship – to other countries.
In a video promoting the ‘Nomad Capitalist’ event in Kuala Lumpur in September, the Brexiteer talks about an alleged “brain drain” in the UK and blames the Conservative Government for bringing in “rules about non-doms” – people registered abroad for tax purposes – claiming that “the exodus is beginning”. He also praises the Nomad Capitalist firm for “giving people best advice on where to go, and how to do it”.
The event promises to teach attendees “legal strategies that actually work in 2024 to reduce your taxes, build a global Plan B, and diversify and protect your wealth around the world”. It will be Farage‘s second time addressing the conference.’
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/09/nigel-farage-nomad-capitalist-speaker/
Man of the people(but still hasn’t held a single constituency surgery).
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Yes, but he also says things about brown people that make my mate Dave down the pub angry at them because they are brown.
You really must have the brain capacity of a gnat to believe the has your interests at heart
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posted on 20/9/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Stopping In-Work Benefits, which are basically subsidies to big corporations like Uber, would save more money than targetting pensioners.
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And would also fack over millions of people and their kids
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No, it would force wealthy companies to pay the Living Wage out of their own pockets rather than using government subsidies
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And with a snap their fingers companies will instantly pay their staff more if the govt take away benefits
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If they want to continue, then yes.
We’re not not talking about small companies trying to expand here, it big firms like Tesco or multinationals like Uber that take full advantage.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
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Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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Yeah, that doesn't change or affect anything I said.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
Ginge - I don’t know why you bother mate. You won’t get any reasoned debate.
Take Amazon - “ oh they pay no tax they’re horrible” etc etc
No mention nor understanding of the consequential taxes paid by employees, millions of businesses and employees, only focus on the top corporations.
Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience.
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So because Amazon's employees and linked businesses pay tax it's OK for Amazon not to pay tax.
Fack me. I'd forgotten the genius on this thread. Thanks for the reminder.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Israeli occupation soldiers throw injured men from a rooftop in Qabatiya outside Jenin in the occupied West Bank earlier today. This is Israel’s “self defence”
https://x.com/hzomlot/status/1836842024990847080?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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Jews make news
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Plus - rhyming is always fun
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You’re a poet and you didn’t know it
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
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Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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And Ginge doesn’t come across as anything like weak-minded. That’s just a poor insult similar to what you often come out with to anyone that disagrees with you or generally has opposing viewpoints to you.
Person A thinks similar to what I do - great
Person B thinks differently to me - weak-minded
Let’s be honest Mambinator - weak-minded people feel this way.
Difference of opinion, same as beliefs, looks, experience is arguably one of the most beautiful parts of life as a free human being; embrace it, don’t shun it and try to stifle it.
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I agree he's not weak-minded. I used the wrong word. He's just so susceptible to propaganda around culture, immigration and race that he voted to hurt and damage the country and watched for 14 years as everything went to sheet and was willing to suffer the consequences so long as they stop the boats.
Wish he'd repeat his little speeches about black people in London during BLM. Wanted to take back rrrr country and said we weren't patriotic, now he's making excuses for rich people who don't pay tax fairly and saying it's OK so long as it's legal. Facking joke and he shouldn't be allowed to just chameleon his way around debates. Stick to your true colours you hypocrite.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
The UK's public sector debt has hit 100% of the value of the country's annual economic output for the first time since the 1960s, according to official figures released ahead of the chancellor's maiden budget.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, in a preliminary estimate, that the figure had risen from the 99.3% figure recorded the previous month.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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Meanwhile the rich have added another trillion to their portfolios. But it's all legal so it's OK.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
They aren’t campaigning on a mandate to address the problem because people are apathetic or facking mental and bootlick billionaires and corporations.
========
Corporations and billionaires control the narrative and that's how they have people like Gingernuts voting against their own self interests in backing Brexit and the Tories.
Their propaganda nailed the weak minded, like Gingernuts, and they cheered on Brexit and the Tories as they facked the country and made the rich richer.
Why did he accept all this? Because they promised to stop the boats.
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If I may respond to that final paragraph. Whilst I don’t know what Ginge did or did not vote for, let alone the reasons (and I doubt that you know either Mamba), I highly doubt he is the first or last person to vote for something that was promised but not delivered by a politician. In fact, I’d say that is commonplace given how sheetty politicians are at delivering what they say they will. And that’s not even the last 20 odd years, this premise has been demonstrable for much longer, almost boringly so…
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And Ginge doesn’t come across as anything like weak-minded. That’s just a poor insult similar to what you often come out with to anyone that disagrees with you or generally has opposing viewpoints to you.
Person A thinks similar to what I do - great
Person B thinks differently to me - weak-minded
Let’s be honest Mambinator - weak-minded people feel this way.
Difference of opinion, same as beliefs, looks, experience is arguably one of the most beautiful parts of life as a free human being; embrace it, don’t shun it and try to stifle it.
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Oh it’s him that is the filtered one that seems to latch onto pretty much anything I post
Petty and bitter little individual and a coward at that by posting insults and untruths behind my back when he knows they’re not being seen by me.
Dearie me
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You have me filtered because I wouldn't let you pretend to be some reasonable type. You're a bottom of the barrel, bitter and full of bile Tory trying to chameleon your way out of racism, xenophobia and all the disgusting sheet you backed and made excuses for for 14 years. You weren't the only one but you were the worst and the most unremorseful and hard headed mo-4 on here. None of the others have the audacity to still show their faces here anymore except you.
Where are you now? Tories still let in record number of immigrants. You got nothing in return for all that hate and the bonus of the country bring in it's knees.
Stick to what you backed so vehemently for 14 years. Such strong views cannot just change because Tories lost the election. You know what you are.
posted on 20/9/24
Trump: If I don’t win this election.. the Jewish people would have a lot to do with that if that happens
https://x.com/acyn/status/1836943394112729399?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Que??
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
The UK's public sector debt has hit 100% of the value of the country's annual economic output for the first time since the 1960s, according to official figures released ahead of the chancellor's maiden budget.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, in a preliminary estimate, that the figure had risen from the 99.3% figure recorded the previous month.
BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN
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Meanwhile the rich have added another trillion to their portfolios. But it's all legal so it's OK.
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“We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis
posted on 20/9/24
Fricking Jewish laser beams from space innit
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Trump: If I don’t win this election.. the Jewish people would have a lot to do with that if that happens
https://x.com/acyn/status/1836943394112729399?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Que??
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What in the fack? That guy is so, so dangerous.
posted on 20/9/24
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
posted on 20/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
posted on 20/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
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I'm interested if you find it.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjenjANqAk
This is one such example, when politicians discuss, debate, and act with dignity. I wish Trump would just stop his campaign and step aside. It is obvious he's still doing this to stay out of legal issues.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjenjANqAk
This is one such example, when politicians discuss, debate, and act with dignity. I wish Trump would just stop his campaign and step aside. It is obvious he's still doing this to stay out of legal issues.
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At the time you take it for granted. It's was what you expected.
Fast forward to today and it seems like a big deal looking back at such chivalry.
posted on 20/9/24
This woman should be locked up
https://x.com/skynews/status/1837048317878096313?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
Can you imagine what would (rightly) happen if any given British politician came out with something like that?
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I watched a video detailing how politicians conducted themselves in America during elections in the past compared to today and it’s crazy.
Refuse to get personal, agree with each other on certain issues, honest. I’ll see if I can find it.
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Chomsky has a fantastic analysis ultimately explaining why it’s *impossible* for politicians in the mainstream political parties of modern Western democracies to be honest with their electorates.
The lecture covers the various aspects of the long answer; the short answer is money in politics.
I’ll try to dig that out too
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I'm interested if you find it.
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The American realist political scientist John Mearsheimer has also done *a lot* of interesting work on why politicians lie.
I don’t agree with all of his conclusions (whilst recognising the weight of their worth - he’s spent half a career researching the subject), but I’d very strongly recommend checking it out to anyone interested in geopolitical manouvering and the concept of realpolitik.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Dearie me
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Really mate, you gotta stop using Dearie Me and a laugh emoji as some kind of definitive, clever and cutting retort. Many of you posts on this conversation alone is littererd with it.
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If it winds anyone else up, meh. Job done as far as I’m concerned. Many feel it’s ok to cast ludicrous aspersions against me, insult me and generally act in a manner they wouldn’t have the balls to do in front of my face.
So essentially, fwck that. I’ll use it how and whenever the inclination takes me.
In another sense, it’s more of a pitiful and scornful dismissal of some tripe that’s yet again be written against me.
How some people have the audacity to try and categorise me, make up utter nonsense and try and proclaim it as my thought processes is quite staggering at times. One individual (can’t even recall his old user name) does it in full knowledge I can’t read it as I chose to ignore his patter years ago. Why he persists is quite beyond any rational comprehension. It’s almost creepy and stinks to high heaven of either jealousy or a lack of self worth. Not really sure and couldn’t care less.
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
Ginge - I don’t know why you bother mate. You won’t get any reasoned debate.
Take Amazon - “ oh they pay no tax they’re horrible” etc etc
No mention nor understanding of the consequential taxes paid by employees, millions of businesses and employees, only focus on the top corporations.
Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience.
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So because Amazon's employees and linked businesses pay tax it's OK for Amazon not to pay tax.
Fack me. I'd forgotten the genius on this thread. Thanks for the reminder.
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Did Sat Nav just try and justify Amazon not paying the correct tax because their employees pay tax?
"Same thing with subsidies, minimum wages et cetera: so much confidence from them, so little knowledge or really life experience."
Well as long as they pay their staff the minimum possible that's okay then.
posted on 20/9/24
Sat Nav got drunk and went full Tory.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/7kRKmJyZXJE
posted on 20/9/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Dearie me
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Really mate, you gotta stop using Dearie Me and a laugh emoji as some kind of definitive, clever and cutting retort. Many of you posts on this conversation alone is littererd with it.
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If it winds anyone else up, meh. Job done as far as I’m concerned. Many feel it’s ok to cast ludicrous aspersions against me, insult me and generally act in a manner they wouldn’t have the balls to do in front of my face.
So essentially, fwck that. I’ll use it how and whenever the inclination takes me.
In another sense, it’s more of a pitiful and scornful dismissal of some tripe that’s yet again be written against me.
How some people have the audacity to try and categorise me, make up utter nonsense and try and proclaim it as my thought processes is quite staggering at times. One individual (can’t even recall his old user name) does it in full knowledge I can’t read it as I chose to ignore his patter years ago. Why he persists is quite beyond any rational comprehension. It’s almost creepy and stinks to high heaven of either jealousy or a lack of self worth. Not really sure and couldn’t care less.
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Who the fack do you think you're kidding? You read all my posts and I know you do. You filtered me because I was getting in the way of your attempts to sanitise your views after opening the floodgates of your Tory nature back when you thought it was gonna be Tories Forever.
posted on 20/9/24
‘Nigel Farage is due to speak at a global conference that celebrates rich individuals who lower their tax bill by moving cash – and their citizenship – to other countries.
In a video promoting the ‘Nomad Capitalist’ event in Kuala Lumpur in September, the Brexiteer talks about an alleged “brain drain” in the UK and blames the Conservative Government for bringing in “rules about non-doms” – people registered abroad for tax purposes – claiming that “the exodus is beginning”. He also praises the Nomad Capitalist firm for “giving people best advice on where to go, and how to do it”.
The event promises to teach attendees “legal strategies that actually work in 2024 to reduce your taxes, build a global Plan B, and diversify and protect your wealth around the world”. It will be Farage‘s second time addressing the conference.’
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/09/nigel-farage-nomad-capitalist-speaker/
Man of the people (but still hasn’t held a single constituency surgery).
posted on 20/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 33 seconds ago
‘Nigel Farage is due to speak at a global conference that celebrates rich individuals who lower their tax bill by moving cash – and their citizenship – to other countries.
In a video promoting the ‘Nomad Capitalist’ event in Kuala Lumpur in September, the Brexiteer talks about an alleged “brain drain” in the UK and blames the Conservative Government for bringing in “rules about non-doms” – people registered abroad for tax purposes – claiming that “the exodus is beginning”. He also praises the Nomad Capitalist firm for “giving people best advice on where to go, and how to do it”.
The event promises to teach attendees “legal strategies that actually work in 2024 to reduce your taxes, build a global Plan B, and diversify and protect your wealth around the world”. It will be Farage‘s second time addressing the conference.’
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/09/nigel-farage-nomad-capitalist-speaker/
Man of the people(but still hasn’t held a single constituency surgery).
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Yes, but he also says things about brown people that make my mate Dave down the pub angry at them because they are brown.
You really must have the brain capacity of a gnat to believe the has your interests at heart
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