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posted on 4/4/21

comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted less than a minute ago
Friday was even better, 3,402 cases and previous Friday was 6,187 nearly a 50% drop
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Numbers going down is always a good thing here.

I always like to stress this is always in recorded cases given the asymptotic carrier real numbers will never be known.
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Yep but equally in the U.K. at least 1 million of our current tests a day are the rapid lateral flow tests and they’re 99.8% to 99.9% so there’s always a 0.1% - 0.2% at least risk of them throwing up a false positive and 0.1% of 1 million tests is 1000, 0.2 is 2,000. So you’d estimate 1000-2000 of our positive tests are not actually positives

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Loyalist thugs using any excuse to attack the police. "Oooh them bad people got away with breaking covid rules..BUrn CaRs aNd ThrOw DRaiN cOVers."
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Just like those folk in Bristol.

I also see Jeremys spoken at demo, true colours shining through.

Sorry for the song refs.

posted on 4/4/21

Thought Jeremy came across well yesterday to be fair and I’ve never liked him

Some Tory MP getting a load of $hit for Saying we are not in a pandemic anymore. Is she really wrong? Don’t really see how an average of 30 deaths over the last 7 days and 2000 people in hospital can really be classed as a pandemic. Get more deaths than that a day from about 10 other causes

posted on 4/4/21

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posted on 4/4/21

Yeh I meant you could argue it’s over with here

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted less than a minute ago
Friday was even better, 3,402 cases and previous Friday was 6,187 nearly a 50% drop
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Numbers going down is always a good thing here.

I always like to stress this is always in recorded cases given the asymptotic carrier real numbers will never be known.
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Yep but equally in the U.K. at least 1 million of our current tests a day are the rapid lateral flow tests and they’re 99.8% to 99.9% so there’s always a 0.1% - 0.2% at least risk of them throwing up a false positive and 0.1% of 1 million tests is 1000, 0.2 is 2,000. So you’d estimate 1000-2000 of our positive tests are not actually positives
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What proportion of negative tests are false negatives? That’ll give a better indication as just focusing on the possibility of false positives only gives half the picture of potential testing “errors”.

posted on 4/4/21

0.003% of the population are in hospital with Covid

posted on 4/4/21

A pandemic by definition is one that crosses borders or other international boundaries. Saying “we” (if the person defines “we” other than globally ) are not in a pandemic is a rather odd statement to make in that context.

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
0.003% of the population are in hospital with Covid
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Again not helpful without context. What overall % of population are in hospital in general? What % of pop are in hospital on average at this time of year?

posted on 4/4/21

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
A pandemic by definition is one that crosses borders or other international boundaries. Saying “we” (if the person defines “we” other than globally ) are not in a pandemic is a rather odd statement to make in that context.
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Of course, but the reality is the U.K. is not in a pandemic or at risk of a pandemic as it stands

posted on 4/4/21

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
0.003% of the population are in hospital with Covid
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Again not helpful without context. What overall % of population are in hospital in general? What % of pop are in hospital on average at this time of year?
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Well this time last year we had 20k in hospital with COVID.

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
0.003% of the population are in hospital with Covid
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Again not helpful without context. What overall % of population are in hospital in general? What % of pop are in hospital on average at this time of year?
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Well this time last year we had 20k in hospital with COVID.
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That is more useful. So roughly 0.03% compared to 0.003%? So if you wanted to be making a point that comparison is more insightful than just giving hospital figures. Been one of my bug bears is just sloppy use of data to push agendas. Not suggesting that is what is driving your approach, just making a general point.

posted on 4/4/21

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posted on 4/4/21

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
0.003% of the population are in hospital with Covid
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Again not helpful without context. What overall % of population are in hospital in general? What % of pop are in hospital on average at this time of year?
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Well this time last year we had 20k in hospital with COVID.
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That is more useful. So roughly 0.03% compared to 0.003%? So if you wanted to be making a point that comparison is more insightful than just giving hospital figures. Been one of my bug bears is just sloppy use of data to push agendas. Not suggesting that is what is driving your approach, just making a general point.
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What agenda? I was just saying is the Tory MP who is getting $hit for saying we are not in a pandemic anymore really wrong.

And the reality is 0.0003% of our population is in hospital with COVID which isn’t a lot and of a pandemic nature whatever way you want to spin it

posted on 4/4/21

I find it funny that people are moaning about freedoms but said very little over the past year and accepted or even promoted lockdowns, probably the biggest infringement of freedoms we have seen since WWII.

Narratives are powerful

posted on 4/4/21

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
A pandemic by definition is one that crosses borders or other international boundaries. Saying “we” (if the person defines “we” other than globally ) are not in a pandemic is a rather odd statement to make in that context.
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Places will not reach herd immunity at the same time though, so it is fair to declare a pandemic over in one country, but not in an other. As I said I would only say Israel has actually achieved herd immunity. If the UK completely opened up tomorrow we would still get a wave among unvaccinated people because there are still tens of millions of people who haven't had a vaccine yet.
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See I dunno about this. As 35 million out of 50 million adults have had the vaccine, of the remaining 15 million a lot are young so you could anticipate 1/3 of them have had the virus, so that leaves 10 million + 10 million school kids, but schools are open anyway so you’ve got 10 million unvaccinated kids meeting 5 days a week for 7-8 hours a day, and we’ve seen no spike

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
I find it funny that people are moaning about freedoms but said very little over the past year and accepted or even promoted lockdowns, probably the biggest infringement of freedoms we have seen since WWII.

Narratives are powerful
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And the infringement is only just beginning even though covid is ending

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
I find it funny that people are moaning about freedoms but said very little over the past year and accepted or even promoted lockdowns, probably the biggest infringement of freedoms we have seen since WWII.

Narratives are powerful
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And the infringement is only just beginning even though covid is ending
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No it started a year ago lol

Passports? How about not being able to go anywhere, visit your family? Attend family funerals???

Yeah passports really bother me.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Thomas Brown Hewitt AKA Fatty Pranks. Open the... (U22336)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Loyalist thugs using any excuse to attack the police. "Oooh them bad people got away with breaking covid rules..BUrn CaRs aNd ThrOw DRaiN cOVers."
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Just like those folk in Bristol.

I also see Jeremys spoken at demo, true colours shining through.

Sorry for the song refs.
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No, not like those people in Bristol, at all. They had a legit reason to be angry.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
I find it funny that people are moaning about freedoms but said very little over the past year and accepted or even promoted lockdowns, probably the biggest infringement of freedoms we have seen since WWII.

Narratives are powerful
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Because where we are now is exactly the place we've been over the past 12 months, narratives eh!

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thomas Brown Hewitt AKA Fatty Pranks. Open the... (U22336)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Loyalist thugs using any excuse to attack the police. "Oooh them bad people got away with breaking covid rules..BUrn CaRs aNd ThrOw DRaiN cOVers."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just like those folk in Bristol.

I also see Jeremys spoken at demo, true colours shining through.

Sorry for the song refs.
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No, not like those people in Bristol, at all. They had a legit reason to be angry.
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Who gets to decide this? You? Then? Me?

Is it justifiable to try to set a police on fire with an officer inside it?

No, all the same - violent thugs carrying out criminal acts.

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
I find it funny that people are moaning about freedoms but said very little over the past year and accepted or even promoted lockdowns, probably the biggest infringement of freedoms we have seen since WWII.

Narratives are powerful
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Because where we are now is exactly the place we've been over the past 12 months, narratives eh!
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It’s the weak acceptance of the state control over the past year that has led to this. And now those same people cry over a passport to get into a pub. It’s their own fault.

Yes narratives - last year ‘no no we. It’s forego our freedoms and lockdown because that’s the right thing to do’ and now ‘no no this lack of freedom regarding passports for pub entry is wrong’

Narratives

posted on 4/4/21

NPE cannot stand the voter ID aspect of the passport issue but at least he is consistent. He challenged lockdowns throughout and was called all sorts for it.

Pathetic weasels who said nothing all last year are the same ones now crying about having to have medical status ID to go for a drink or dinner.

Don’t see what their issue is. They do the same thing in China and we followed China’s approach with locking down - so why complain about this?

Should have listened to the ‘covid deniers’ all of last year and not accepted lockdowns.

Best example was the roadmap - was clearly OTT yet everyone was happy with it and in fact wanted tougher restrictions! 😂😂😂

You reap what you sow

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Thomas Brown Hewitt AKA Fatty Pranks. Open the... (U22336)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Loyalist thugs using any excuse to attack the police. "Oooh them bad people got away with breaking covid rules..BUrn CaRs aNd ThrOw DRaiN cOVers."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just like those folk in Bristol.

I also see Jeremys spoken at demo, true colours shining through.

Sorry for the song refs.
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No, not like those people in Bristol, at all. They had a legit reason to be angry.
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No they didn’t we’re in lockdown, that’s not mentioning the violence ffs.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 4/4/21

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
NPE cannot stand the voter ID aspect of the passport issue but at least he is consistent. He challenged lockdowns throughout and was called all sorts for it.

Pathetic weasels who said nothing all last year are the same ones now crying about having to have medical status ID to go for a drink or dinner.

Don’t see what their issue is. They do the same thing in China and we followed China’s approach with locking down - so why complain about this?

Should have listened to the ‘covid deniers’ all of last year and not accepted lockdowns.

Best example was the roadmap - was clearly OTT yet everyone was happy with it and in fact wanted tougher restrictions! 😂😂😂

You reap what you sow
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A lot has changed in 12 months, even you on your high horse must accept that. 12 months ago 1445 people died in one day, yesterday it was 10. That's the actual narrative for changing attitude to lockdown.

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