comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Blarmy (U14547)
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Sat Nav

Who cares about consistency of allies here, I just want to see this idea struck down asap
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I actually don’t. If these people don’t want it, I want them to have it. Let them experience something that they didn’t want like those of us who opposed lockdowns over an entire year and were banned from attending funerals.

Let those who supported or wanted a more severe roadmap suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will learn to think next time instead of just swallowing a narrative like a bunch of compliant sheep.
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Still being aI see.

Some people disagreed with my opinion on something, so now I want them all to suffer.
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I want you to learn a lesson, that’s all. You’re the one crying, not me.

Way to follow the thread rules too. Took you a couple of posts, well done.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sat Nav

Who cares about consistency of allies here, I just want to see this idea struck down asap
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I actually don’t. If these people don’t want it, I want them to have it. Let them experience something that they didn’t want like those of us who opposed lockdowns over an entire year and were banned from attending funerals.

Let those who supported or wanted a more severe roadmap suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will learn to think next time instead of just swallowing a narrative like a bunch of compliant sheep.
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Still being aI see.

Some people disagreed with my opinion on something, so now I want them all to suffer.
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It's revisionist bollox, opinions change as circumstances change.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfortunately the death rate if this thing is in the Goldilocks zone to cause maximum havoc not just in terms of health, but societal health too. If it had a 10% death rate we would have had far less deaths because govs would have locked down instantly and pretty much everyone would have accepted. If it was 0.1% or lower we would just let it rip. 0.5-1% is the region that causes maximum divisions. Definitely need a more nuanced approached than blanket lockdowns the next time something in that area comes up

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I think what we need to learn is to be able to have separate ‘covid’ areas in hospitals, from arrival to treatment and then a targeted lockdown of those that are vulnerable & hopefully a functional track and trace system.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sat Nav

Who cares about consistency of allies here, I just want to see this idea struck down asap
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I actually don’t. If these people don’t want it, I want them to have it. Let them experience something that they didn’t want like those of us who opposed lockdowns over an entire year and were banned from attending funerals.

Let those who supported or wanted a more severe roadmap suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will learn to think next time instead of just swallowing a narrative like a bunch of compliant sheep.
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Still being aI see.

Some people disagreed with my opinion on something, so now I want them all to suffer.
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I want you to learn a lesson, that’s all. You’re the one crying, not me.

Way to follow the thread rules too. Took you a couple of posts, well done.
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You want me to learn a lesson? What lesson? That I have to have a polarised opinion that isn't changeable and I have to suffer for my opinion at any one stand point in time?

Your true colours show through. You were one of the main reasons I stopped posting on here. You bracket people, polarise every topic and do it whilst pretending you are reasonable. We'll this just shows how extreme you are.

Because I thought a lockdown were the best way to control hospital admissions at the height of a pandemic, you think I should lose all my freedoms despite having to suffer the same lockdowns as you. That is vindictive and inflammatory, and shows you for theyou are.
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Way to break the rules again.

The lesson I want those that supported lockdown like happy little sheep (if that’s you then so be it, but I haven’t specified you) to be much more cautious next time in allowing their freedoms to be taken away because they’ve gobbled up a narrative that lockdowns are a saving grace.

If people weren’t so happy & accepting of the restrictions this past year, then the government wouldn’t be as strict as they are being with the current roadmap and covid passport et cetera.

This is a consequence of the original opinion. This is how you learn a lesson, I thought children were still taught this but apparently not.

Actions have consequences my dear, own it.

Everyone calm down on name calling or reenog the merciless will be extra angry if we ruin his easter

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 31 seconds ago
Everyone calm down on name calling or reenog the merciless will be extra angry if we ruin his easter
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There’s only one person breaking the rules currently and I don’t think those rules are being enforced anymore either.

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https://www.billysballbags.com/products/ballbag-face-mask

Best thing to come out of lockdowns

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sat Nav

Who cares about consistency of allies here, I just want to see this idea struck down asap
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I actually don’t. If these people don’t want it, I want them to have it. Let them experience something that they didn’t want like those of us who opposed lockdowns over an entire year and were banned from attending funerals.

Let those who supported or wanted a more severe roadmap suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will learn to think next time instead of just swallowing a narrative like a bunch of compliant sheep.
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Still being aI see.

Some people disagreed with my opinion on something, so now I want them all to suffer.
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It's revisionist bollox, opinions change as circumstances change.
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There’s nothing revisionist about it. You just want a pint, well we all do but it’s safer to have these vaccine passports in place so we should do that. That will mean you will have to wait another month or two before getting into a pub. But it will save lives remember? So it’s all good?

Oh wait - all of sudden you don’t agree that it will save lives? So you’re against it? Because of vaccines? You haven’t been vaccinated, you haven’t even been tested. Why should you and countless others be allowed in a pub infecting each other? Remember viral loads?

It’s only two extra months to wait fo have a pint in the pub to save lives - what’s the big deal?

Aaaah Freedom is the big deal. Well we should have all thought about that a year ago, is all I’m saying. Before accepting national lockdowns as some sort of saviour. Well perhaps this covid passport is a saviour?

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Blarmy (U14547)
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Sat Nav

Who cares about consistency of allies here, I just want to see this idea struck down asap
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I actually don’t. If these people don’t want it, I want them to have it. Let them experience something that they didn’t want like those of us who opposed lockdowns over an entire year and were banned from attending funerals.

Let those who supported or wanted a more severe roadmap suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will learn to think next time instead of just swallowing a narrative like a bunch of compliant sheep.
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Still being aI see.

Some people disagreed with my opinion on something, so now I want them all to suffer.
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I want you to learn a lesson, that’s all. You’re the one crying, not me.

Way to follow the thread rules too. Took you a couple of posts, well done.
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You want me to learn a lesson? What lesson? That I have to have a polarised opinion that isn't changeable and I have to suffer for my opinion at any one stand point in time?

Your true colours show through. You were one of the main reasons I stopped posting on here. You bracket people, polarise every topic and do it whilst pretending you are reasonable. We'll this just shows how extreme you are.

Because I thought a lockdown were the best way to control hospital admissions at the height of a pandemic, you think I should lose all my freedoms despite having to suffer the same lockdowns as you. That is vindictive and inflammatory, and shows you for theyou are.
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Way to break the rules again.

The lesson I want those that supported lockdown like happy little sheep (if that’s you then so be it, but I haven’t specified you) to be much more cautious next time in allowing their freedoms to be taken away because they’ve gobbled up a narrative that lockdowns are a saving grace.

If people weren’t so happy & accepting of the restrictions this past year, then the government wouldn’t be as strict as they are being with the current roadmap and covid passport et cetera.

This is a consequence of the original opinion. This is how you learn a lesson, I thought children were still taught this but apparently not.

Actions have consequences my dear, own it.
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Ok. So next time someone states that they hope everyone who voted Brexit loses their job, you'll support that as actions and consequences right?
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If people lose their job due to brexit and they voted for it then yes absolutely. They voted for it and they got it.

That’s life

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 4 minutes ago
Everyone calm down on name calling or reenog the merciless will be extra angry if we ruin his easter
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If they walk like a, talk like aand act like a; then they are probably a.

I will happily call anyone who brackets people and wants them to suffer for a different opinion aeveryday of the week.
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You’ll be banned from the thread. Way to control your emotions though my guy.

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The irony is that it’s clearly not obvious that those of us that had a different opinion suffered all last year and not only that has to be called names for having a different opinion. Have people forgotten the abuse given out by the likes of Dave last year and this year to anyone who had a different opinion to him on covid actions?

Well this is what people like him and many others wanted, suck it up people.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 17 seconds ago
Keep pretending to be reasonable Sat Nav though. All whilst hoping everyone with a different opinion to you is made to suffer for it.
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Hahahaha

It’s the government and their previous actions that are making them suffer, not me.

Also let’s not hyperbolise the situation: what we’ve all gone through this past year is in a different league to having to wait a little longer to get inside a pub and have a drink.

You stay classy Tam, good luck out there.

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Loyalist thugs using any excuse to attack the police. "Oooh them bad people got away with breaking covid rules..BUrn CaRs aNd ThrOw DRaiN cOVers."
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Just like those folk in Bristol.

I also see Jeremys spoken at demo, true colours shining through.

Sorry for the song refs.
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No, not like those people in Bristol, at all. They had a legit reason to be angry.
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No they didn’t we’re in lockdown, that’s not mentioning the violence ffs.
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The anti-protest bill is being saluted through parliament during the lockdown, ideal for a government intent on suppressing protest.
The loyalist thugs just wanted a fight with the police.
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You do realise we’re still in lockdown and protests shouldn’t be happening
So yeah they have to take measures because some idiots don’t play by the rules.
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Of course I do, but that's not the point, its using lockdown as an excuse, as cover, for a controversial piece of legislation to pass unchallenged by...protesters!

The police weren't innocents in Bristol, they incited the crowd that were sitting down peacefully and brought in the horses. Blame on both sides.

Loyalists on the other hand...
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Go on.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
The irony is that it’s clearly not obvious that those of us that had a different opinion suffered all last year and not only that has to be called names for having a different opinion. Have people forgotten the abuse given out by the likes of Dave last year and this year to anyone who had a different opinion to him on covid actions?

Well this is what people like him and many others wanted, suck it up people.
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I think you need to realise that nobody wants a lock down. The difference is whether people thought it was necessary.

Everyone has suffered in the last year. I have seen my family once in 12 months. Haven't been able to play football and only had a few months of cricket. I haven't been able to to gigs etc. I have had medical treatment delayed.

Yet because I thought the lockdowns were necessary at the time and accepted that pain; you think I should suffer some more. All whilst having the nerve to tell me to stay classy.
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Yes I understand that but what I have said is that people didn’t question it sufficiently, if that includes you then so be it. We were only given one side of the debate and any with opposing views were slimed and ridiculed.

Yes unfortunately we did all suffer in the last year and I am sorry to hear about your personal pain, you can label that as me pretending if you wish, I don’t really care but I lost three family members last year and couldn’t attend two of the three funerals so I understand the pain fully and we’re not even close to knowing the full consequences yet.

This passport proposition, even with future possibilities taken into account, isn’t anywhere near comparable. And I would like those that fully supported lockdowns to question things a little more going forward. And question what the future consequences would be not just with a small issue such as passports but maybe with lockdowns too.

I don’t think these passports are going to cause you suffering on the same scale as you have this past year, not even close. At least I certainly hope that is the case.

Which is why I find it ironic that people are so up in arms about them but supported the Chinese approach of lockdowns which affected a lot more of our freedoms and caused a lot more damage than any passport program can or will.

Programs such as this are a direct consequence of the national support and lack of serious opposition to lockdowns. Yet there is more serious opposition to bloody passports - that makes no sense.

If people hold their hands up and say (like some people did with Brexit) yeah I think I got it wrong then fair enough, people make mistakes. But I don’t see people doing that, they’re just picking and choosing which sword they want to die on and licking passports over national lockdowns. That just doesn’t make sense to me, that’s all.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
Actually, my opposition to covid passports goes beyond going to the pub for a drink too and more into what it could mean in the future. Obviously you wouldn't think that though, as you would just want to bracket everyone to suit your own narrative and help with your divisive and inflammatory generalisations.
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I am talking generally because we’re not here to name specific people. I am talking about those that supported lockdowns but oppose this.

As mentioned above, why are we now considering future consequences but weren’t when it came to locking down?

Republican and nationalist concerns, and indeed threat against border checks is legit, but unionist and loyalist concerns and anger are not, for border issues up the road.

Pira funeral with 2000 folk and SF govt ministers attending... during peak covid Lock down Was not a breach of covid guidelines??

Double standards.

You cannot respect one side and not the other in a conflict.