or to join or start a new Discussion

Articles/all comments
These 189 comments are related to an article called:

Why Are Spurs Fans So Buoyant? - Explained

Page 2 of 8

posted on 8/11/17

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 8/11/17

However, whenever this positivity is expressed on here, our board gets bombarded by opposition fans constantly decrying "what have you won?".
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't think anyone has a problem with spurs' fans positivity tbh, your club are moving in the right direction for sure and have reason to be buoyant.

It's when some of your fans declare you have the best team/11, run the best way, have the most expensive players etc that is a bit baffling.

posted on 8/11/17

comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares? If you honestly look back and wet yourself over Rangers winning trophies 20 years ago then you live in the past and have a low quality of life. Its all about enjoyment considering we have little-no impact on the outcome. Spurs fans are enjoying themselves with a successful and impressive team for a change (and personally I am enjoying the bitterness that comes from opposing fans as a result as well)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
who mentioned rangers? defensive much?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was making it an easy comparison for your small brain to comprehend. Clearly I was asking too much.

posted on 8/11/17

comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 7 minutes ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I still remember the Newcastle side of over 20 years ago, and they won nothing. They were a great side to watch.

Much more memorable than the Villa side that won a couple of league cups in that period, or the FA Cup winners Everton in 95

posted on 8/11/17

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 8/11/17

Spurs fans have plenty of reasons to be happy and excited. Good squad, good football, there abouts for 2 seasons now.

Winning titles is great, and there is nothing better as a fan than to win things. However the enjoyment throughout the season is also important.

The issue I take with the OP's post about Utd 25 years ago, is that back then we weren't competing with 4 or 5 teams spending a lot more than us.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares? If you honestly look back and wet yourself over Rangers winning trophies 20 years ago then you live in the past and have a low quality of life. Its all about enjoyment considering we have little-no impact on the outcome. Spurs fans are enjoying themselves with a successful and impressive team for a change (and personally I am enjoying the bitterness that comes from opposing fans as a result as well)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
who mentioned rangers? defensive much?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was making it an easy comparison for your small brain to comprehend. Clearly I was asking too much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The game is all about winning, winning winning, Managers lose their jobs for not winning enough, clubs grow by winning. Winning is the most important thing in football. full stop. Players play the game to win (well most do!). If it comes down to the last game of the season and Spurs need to win it to claim the league what would you prefer they play amazing and lose or play rotten and win ....... Case closed

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted on 8/11/17

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 28 minutes ago
What is not to like? We have had a variety of flase dawns over the years, but something invariably comes along to sweep our feet from under us.

Right now we have a fantastic chairman (he is, sorry to those who hanker after a mythical chairman who does not exist) who has overseen us metamorphise from a faded giant who stank up midtable for a about a decade, back in to the elite of the game with a wonderful stadium imminent, and facilities to match.

We have a coach who the fans absolutely adore. Not in a Fergie/Mourinho way either, with a bunker mentality, but one who is widely admired by other fans and who comes across as a proper gent, while in no way looking like a soft touch. Who has spoken of his excitement about our 'project', and his plans to stay here.

The relationship between the two looks rock-solid too. Both speak openly of their admiration for eachother.

There is also the fact the club is geared up to support their joint-ethos. We have a good reputation for giving kids a chance, and a youth system that is churning out potential first-teamers year-on-year.

There is a real feeling of team>individual. Whereas before you felt one key man missing or going would see us fall apart, now the side functions fine without several key men in it. With the exception of probably only Kane, you could see any player going and us not drastically noticing it. Even if Kane is missing we pick results up, as we saw last year. It is a blow, but not disastrous.

With the new stadium comes the bigger wages, and with that the decreased chance of players leaving such as Walker, or disharmony from the likes of Rose.

The key man to all of this is Poch, and as long as he is here you can only see a brighter future.

Of course other fans will goad about trophies so far, but that is short-termism. Something is being built for the long-term here, that will hopefully set us up to compete for many of the big trophies, not just an occasional league cup.




----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you read Poch's biography Ledley? I'm not a fan of bio's myself but it does give a unique insight into the relationship between Levy and Poch and I have to say it seems to be a match made in football heaven. Ok, some will say he wouldn't be slagging him off would he but the warmth of the relationship really comes across. Long may it continue.

posted on 8/11/17

Good team, decent manager, thats about it really.

posted on 8/11/17

comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares? If you honestly look back and wet yourself over Rangers winning trophies 20 years ago then you live in the past and have a low quality of life. Its all about enjoyment considering we have little-no impact on the outcome. Spurs fans are enjoying themselves with a successful and impressive team for a change (and personally I am enjoying the bitterness that comes from opposing fans as a result as well)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
who mentioned rangers? defensive much?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was making it an easy comparison for your small brain to comprehend. Clearly I was asking too much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The game is all about winning, winning winning, Managers lose their jobs for not winning enough, clubs grow by winning. Winning is the most important thing in football. full stop. Players play the game to win (well most do!). If it comes down to the last game of the season and Spurs need to win it to claim the league what would you prefer they play amazing and lose or play rotten and win ....... Case closed
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Straw-man argument made... and closed.

Football is about whatever you want it to be. I don't go through your life and tell you what you should and shouldn't be happy about. Much like you shouldn't discuss what equates happiness when it comes to how an individual measures success for their team.

posted on 8/11/17

comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 28 minutes ago
What is not to like? We have had a variety of flase dawns over the years, but something invariably comes along to sweep our feet from under us.

Right now we have a fantastic chairman (he is, sorry to those who hanker after a mythical chairman who does not exist) who has overseen us metamorphise from a faded giant who stank up midtable for a about a decade, back in to the elite of the game with a wonderful stadium imminent, and facilities to match.

We have a coach who the fans absolutely adore. Not in a Fergie/Mourinho way either, with a bunker mentality, but one who is widely admired by other fans and who comes across as a proper gent, while in no way looking like a soft touch. Who has spoken of his excitement about our 'project', and his plans to stay here.

The relationship between the two looks rock-solid too. Both speak openly of their admiration for eachother.

There is also the fact the club is geared up to support their joint-ethos. We have a good reputation for giving kids a chance, and a youth system that is churning out potential first-teamers year-on-year.

There is a real feeling of team>individual. Whereas before you felt one key man missing or going would see us fall apart, now the side functions fine without several key men in it. With the exception of probably only Kane, you could see any player going and us not drastically noticing it. Even if Kane is missing we pick results up, as we saw last year. It is a blow, but not disastrous.

With the new stadium comes the bigger wages, and with that the decreased chance of players leaving such as Walker, or disharmony from the likes of Rose.

The key man to all of this is Poch, and as long as he is here you can only see a brighter future.

Of course other fans will goad about trophies so far, but that is short-termism. Something is being built for the long-term here, that will hopefully set us up to compete for many of the big trophies, not just an occasional league cup.




----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you read Poch's biography Ledley? I'm not a fan of bio's myself but it does give a unique insight into the relationship between Levy and Poch and I have to say it seems to be a match made in football heaven. Ok, some will say he wouldn't be slagging him off would he but the warmth of the relationship really comes across. Long may it continue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only the extracts. I will probably get it off of Santa

posted on 8/11/17

comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 7 minutes ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I still remember the Newcastle side of over 20 years ago, and they won nothing. They were a great side to watch.

Much more memorable than the Villa side that won a couple of league cups in that period, or the FA Cup winners Everton in 95
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whilst I appreciate this is in relation to a specific comment. The actual argument is surely more about the fans of the clubs. I bet the Newcastle fans of that era would have swapped their near miss with the Villa fans who saw their club win that league cup. That is the point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I totally disagree. The near miss was a platform to compete for the league again. A league cup is not.

If you offered me two choices now:

1. A guaranteed FA cup win but definitely not winning the league (or the CL)

2. Definitely no FA cup win, but in the mix for the league with a few games left (or in a good position in the 2nd leg of a CL semi).


I would 100% take number 2

posted on 8/11/17

let the spurs fans be happy I say

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 minute ago
20/30 years from now then if this current batch wins nothing they will be forgotten. History only remembers the winners not the almost men
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares? If you honestly look back and wet yourself over Rangers winning trophies 20 years ago then you live in the past and have a low quality of life. Its all about enjoyment considering we have little-no impact on the outcome. Spurs fans are enjoying themselves with a successful and impressive team for a change (and personally I am enjoying the bitterness that comes from opposing fans as a result as well)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
who mentioned rangers? defensive much?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was making it an easy comparison for your small brain to comprehend. Clearly I was asking too much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The game is all about winning, winning winning, Managers lose their jobs for not winning enough, clubs grow by winning. Winning is the most important thing in football. full stop. Players play the game to win (well most do!). If it comes down to the last game of the season and Spurs need to win it to claim the league what would you prefer they play amazing and lose or play rotten and win ....... Case closed
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Straw-man argument made... and closed.

Football is about whatever you want it to be. I don't go through your life and tell you what you should and shouldn't be happy about. Much like you shouldn't discuss what equates happiness when it comes to how an individual measures success for their team.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats what you take from the game, Iv never seen a single fan in my lifetime be happy at their team losing. Maybe their performance yes but never seen anyone say "ahh good we lost that match". You know that im correct and are now trying to weasel your way out it.

Again your just being uber defensive. I would quite like to see Spurs win the league (defo prefer them over City) I like Poch also, think he is doing a fantastic job. Im just stating the facts is all.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

Answer the question Edin. going into the last game what would you take a horrible performance and lucky 1-0 win or a sublime performance, dominating the match, entertaining the fans with jaw dropping football but losing the game and the ultimately the league.........

comment by (U18814)

posted on 8/11/17

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 8/11/17

Yes this Spurs team currently are a very good solid young team and poch is a fantastic manager and it's great to see him giving youngsters a chance and just goes to show what you can do with them. We have some very good youngsters at United but obviously we have Jose in charge so they don't get a chance. I'd have poch at United tomorrow

However let's be real here. Spurs have to win something soon. Firstly the Newcastle team is remembered fondly as they were very very exciting, one of the most in the history of the premier league. Spurs are nowhere near that level of excitement. Secondly players are so much less loyal these days. Guaranteed the longer it goes on not winning trophies and not paying the wages players will move on or possibly Pochettino. All it would need as a couple of big players leaving and cracks start to form. Unfortunately in football these days it's inevitable. For me Spurs have to win a decent trophy in the next 2-3 yrs

posted on 8/11/17

I'd suggest googling "straw man" it is what you are concocting.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

No Ace "YOU" want to win trophies you cannot speak on behalf of Edinspur !! apparently !!!

posted on 8/11/17

Gezza-Spurs


Good article mate, you can smell the fear of all the Liverpool supporters that are crawling all over this article, to think their place as one of the Sky Four is all but over. Spurs will win trophies with this team, no doubt about that.

posted on 8/11/17

However, whenever this positivity is expressed on here, our board gets bombarded by opposition fans constantly decrying "what have you won?"
----------------------------

Let's be honest here. Come the end of the season when Tottenham end up potless again, the feeling of positivity will dry up and the real questions will begin;

"When will we win a trophy?".
"Is our squad good enough to win trophies?"
"Is Poch the right man to take us forwards?"
"Why is Levy still being a tight caant?"

It's all well being positive at November. But Trophies are won in May and that's when the real questions will be asked of Spurs.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'd suggest googling "straw man" it is what you are concocting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest just not replying if you refuse to answer the question that we all know the answer to.

comment by BDK (U21653)

posted on 8/11/17

Ultimately a trophy haul will define a club.

posted on 8/11/17

comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 17 minutes ago
let the spurs fans be happy I say
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This.

Why shouldnt a set of supporters be happy their club is doing well.

People take to much notice of what other supporters have to say on this site, as if everyone is going to start saying how brilliant another team is doing when a quick put down is so much easier.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 8/11/17

I will try a different question then Edin since you are weltching over the last one. If in this current (and possible future) era Spurs didnt win a major trophy would you be dissapointed or would you be content that they merely "competed"

Page 2 of 8

Sign in if you want to comment