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AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
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Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
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sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.
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We know it's a brutal sport, nobody is denying it. And yes KO's are bad for anyone's health, that's why there have been so many calls to ban boxing over the years.

So surely that's a reason why we should show consideration allowing a rematch to happen when in the first fight one of the fighters gets his brain knocked around his skull relentlessly for five rounds.
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing, not street fighting to the death. I accept that it's a very brutal sport but I don't want to see anyone permanently hurt like we've seen too many times in this sport. As many precautions as possible need to be taken to avoid that.
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well queensbury rules state that the rules they use for point scoring include effective damaging punches.

So they want the fighters to damage their opponnents too.

You said death , I never.

Like I said you have already been hypocritical in saying that you dont want to see fighters take damage, i say thats lies, you love a big KO as much as we all do. And a KO is literally brain damage

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AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
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Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
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sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.
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We know it's a brutal sport, nobody is denying it. And yes KO's are bad for anyone's health, that's why there have been so many calls to ban boxing over the years.

So surely that's a reason why we should show consideration allowing a rematch to happen when in the first fight one of the fighters gets his brain knocked around his skull relentlessly for five rounds.
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing, not street fighting to the death. I accept that it's a very brutal sport but I don't want to see anyone permanently hurt like we've seen too many times in this sport. As many precautions as possible need to be taken to avoid that.
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well queensbury rules state that the rules they use for point scoring include effective damaging punches.

So they want the fighters to damage their opponnents too.

You said death , I never.

Like I said you have already been hypocritical in saying that you dont want to see fighters take damage, i say thats lies, you love a big KO as much as we all do. And a KO is literally brain damage
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Nah you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that I don't want fighters to take damage, it's an absolute given that they take damage in such a brutal sport. Every single jab does damage to some extent.

My point is simply about keeping the sport as safe as it can possibly be and doing our best to avoid fighters getting seriously and permanently hurt as we've seen too many times in the past with fighters like Michael Watson.

nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........."

you literally said that damaging the other person is not for you.

Nup its for the Drs to decide, if they pass a medical and deemed fine to fight then thats good for me.

the sports is about damaging your opponent

you say that you dont want to see AJ rematch but are happy to see Wilder v AJ .... you think AJ v Wilder outcome would be any less "damaging" than AJ v DDD.

absolute hypocrisy IMO.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........."

you literally said that damaging the other person is not for you.

Nup its for the Drs to decide, if they pass a medical and deemed fine to fight then thats good for me.

the sports is about damaging your opponent
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Show me where I ever said that damaging the other person is not for me. I never said that. This is boxing, it's a brutal sport. Stop putting words in my mouth that you wish I said to suit your argument lol.

I only want people to fight if I think they can handle it, and if there's something to be gained like a world title.

I feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea of Joshua being smashed about like that by Dubois tbh.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
you say that you dont want to see AJ rematch but are happy to see Wilder v AJ .... you think AJ v Wilder outcome would be any less "damaging" than AJ v DDD.

absolute hypocrisy IMO.
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Of course it would be less damaging. Wilder is nearly 40 and has looked well past it in his last two fights. He barely layed a glove on either Zhang or Parker. He'd be a much less dangerous opponent for AJ at present than a prime, hungry Dubois.

Or are you now going to try to argue that 2024 Deontay Wilder is anywhere near as dangerous as the Wilder of a few years ago lol ?

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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
you say that you dont want to see AJ rematch but are happy to see Wilder v AJ .... you think AJ v Wilder outcome would be any less "damaging" than AJ v DDD.

absolute hypocrisy IMO.
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Of course it would be less damaging. Wilder is nearly 40 and has looked well past it in his last two fights. He barely layed a glove on either Zhang or Parker. He'd be a much less dangerous opponent for AJ at present than a prime, hungry Dubois.

Or are you now going to try to argue that 2024 Deontay Wilder is anywhere near as dangerous as the Wilder of a few years ago lol ?
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Both will have the same power they always have had.

But the outcome of AJ v Wilder will be every bit as damaging for the loser than AJ v DDD.

AJ v Wilder would be just as brutal and violent/damaging end to the loser. In that fight Wilder gets absolutely starched. Far more so than that of AJ in a DDD fight.

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posted 11 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........."

you literally said that damaging the other person is not for you.

Nup its for the Drs to decide, if they pass a medical and deemed fine to fight then thats good for me.

the sports is about damaging your opponent
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Show me where I ever said that damaging the other person is not for me. I never said that. This is boxing, it's a brutal sport. Stop putting words in my mouth that you wish I said to suit your argument lol.
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I have literally quoted you above:

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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comment by Superb (U6486)

"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........"

no idea why you added in the death part no one talked about that.

You literally said you dont want to see fighters damaged

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 5 minutes ago
I only want people to fight if I think they can handle it, and if there's something to be gained like a world title.

I feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea of Joshua being smashed about like that by Dubois tbh.
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I also feel uncomfortable with it. I think it's times like these where the boxing board of control maybe should be allowed to intervene and overrule a fighter if he decides to take the rematch.

Take into account there's a huge amount of bravado and pride in the sport and AJ's will definitely be hurting right now. It would be too easy for him to allow that to override clear thinking by activating the rematch.

At very least there should be like a month until after a fight happens before a fighter can activate a rematch clause. Let the hype and talk die down a bit and allow the fighter to have a good long think about it all.

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comment by Superb (U6486)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........."

you literally said that damaging the other person is not for you.

Nup its for the Drs to decide, if they pass a medical and deemed fine to fight then thats good for me.

the sports is about damaging your opponent
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Show me where I ever said that damaging the other person is not for me. I never said that. This is boxing, it's a brutal sport. Stop putting words in my mouth that you wish I said to suit your argument lol.
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I have literally quoted you above:

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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comment by Superb (U6486)

"Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing,........"

no idea why you added in the death part no one talked about that.

You literally said you dont want to see fighters damaged
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Nope I literally didn't. Show me my words where I said that.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago

"nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago

Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing, not street fighting to the death. I accept that it's a very brutal sport but I don't want to see anyone permanently hurt like we've seen too many times in this sport. As many precautions as possible need to be taken to avoid that."

no idea why you added in the death part nobody was talking about death.

Whodumbtit making an absolute tool of himself as usual 😂

Usyk explains what happened 👇

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduylnbKwVU

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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I wouldn't watch AJ vs Miller/Whyte or Joyce.

comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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I wouldn't watch AJ vs Miller/Whyte or Joyce.


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You watched AJ V Franklin

comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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I wouldn't watch AJ vs Miller/Whyte or Joyce.


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You say that now but I bet you would if they were to happen.

AJ Miller fight would create a good build up and there is genuine history and needle there. Probably more than with Whyte at this moment. Miller less dangerous and more beatable for AJ than Dubois as well.

AJ can't possibly be as bad as he was again. I think that's the worst I've ever seen him inside the ring.
I'd happily watch Dubois v aj again, and I don't think it will be so easy the next time.

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posted about 13 hours ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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I wouldn't watch AJ vs Miller/Whyte or Joyce.


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You watched AJ V Franklin
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AJ hadn't been knocked spark out by Dubois at that point.

why should Dubois have to fight Joshua again
It wasn't even a close fight

rematches should only happen after a close first fight

comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 19 minutes ago
why should Dubois have to fight Joshua again
It wasn't even a close fight

rematches should only happen after a close first fight
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cos there is a chance he signed an agreement to allow AJ a rematch if AJ loses.

Fairly straight forward tbh.

comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted about an hour ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted about 13 hours ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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I wouldn't watch AJ vs Miller/Whyte or Joyce.


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You watched AJ V Franklin
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AJ hadn't been knocked spark out by Dubois at that point.
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KOs are part of the sport its one of the biggest reasons why heavies are the favoured weight by the viewers. It was two massive punchers, a big KO was the most likely outcome for either fighter and certainly not a reason to stop watching either of them.

comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 6 minutes ago
why should Dubois have to fight Joshua again
It wasn't even a close fight

rematches should only happen after a close first fight
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Exactly. And since when does the challenger get an immediate rematch against the World Champion straight after getting comprehensively beaten and destroyed by the Champ ? It doesn't happen and I can't think of a single example where that's happened before in the history of boxing.

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posted about a minute ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 6 minutes ago
why should Dubois have to fight Joshua again
It wasn't even a close fight

rematches should only happen after a close first fight
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Exactly. And since when does the challenger get an immediate rematch against the World Champion straight after getting comprehensively beaten and destroyed by the Champ ? It doesn't happen and I can't think of a single example where that's happened before in the history of boxing.
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since the champion signed a contract to allow it.

DDD will be praying that AJ exercises that rematch clause