And just so there's no confusing and twisting what I've said I'll repost exactly what I said yesterday:
I'm hearing David Zaslav has decided that he's going to continue the storyline from Snyder's Justice League movie and make it the canon JL movie instead of Whedon's version. This is what he means when he says they've done a reset.
This means that Affleck is back as Batman and will star as Batman again in future movies. His involvement in Aquaman 2 instead of Michael Keaton (who had already shot scenes for Aquaman 2 which were scrapped) is significant in terms of it's implications and not just a meaningless cameo as some have alluded to.
The previous regime at Warner (which have all gone now thankfully) wanted to make Keaton the main Batman in future DCU movies but it looks like that idea has been scrapped by Zaslav and Batfleck will return.
The Batgirl movie getting scrapped is all part of this because that movie and it's storyline doesn't align with the direction Zaslav is going.
Also the reshoots that we've been hearing about for Black Adam, Shazam 2 and The Flash are significant because they're altering things to make these movies align with the continuation of the Snyder JL story.
Apparently things will become clearer in Black Adam which is coming out in October and we're going to see the return of a certain Henry Cavill as Superman at some point in this movie.
Before one or two on here tear up this doesn't necessarily mean that Snyder is coming back in any capacity but it means that Affleck and Cavill are back and that we're going to continue the story from Snyder's JL (with or without Snyder). Probably without him as he's tied up with Netflix anyway.
Would give the likes of James Wan and Patty Jenkins the chance to direct some Justice League and Superman movies. Or Affleck himself to direct some, maybe he can do his Batman movie which was meant to be incredible according to those who'd seen the script.
So we can look forward to plenty more Cavill Superman, Affleck Batman and Justice League movies going forward. Hopefully a Man of Steel 2 as well as an epic solo Batfleck movie. We'll also see the return of Darkseid and the continuation of that story and probably means we'll get a huge Green Lantern Corps movie too to tie in the with the events of this universe. Cannot wait if this is what happens.
The reason we are summarising summarising because your long post is a bit confusing mate lol
So in summary what my source is saying:
Zaslav has decided to make Snyder's JL movie the canon JL movie instead of Whedon's JL.
Future movies will be built on the events and storyline of Snyder's JL movie. Although there's no news about Snyder returning in any format.
Affleck appearing in Aquaman 2 instead of Keaton is significant and he's not getting killed off in The Flash. He's back as Batman in future movies
Cavill will feature in Black Adam and he's also back as Superman for future movies, hopefully Man of Steel 2 etc.
Batgirl was scrapped because it doesn't align with the vision that Zaslav has. The old regime at Warner headed by Walter Hamada wanted Batgirl and Supergirl to be the main characters in the DCEU and were going to bring back Keaton for several movies as well but Zaslav has canned that idea.
Reshoots on movies like Shazam, Black Adam and The Flash are being done to fit this new Zaslav vision which includes Batman and Superman being at the forefront of the DCEU.
comment by NPE - Turgid Tuchelball (U22712)
posted 3 seconds ago
Black Adam 2 lol
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Lol, I'm getting confused with Shazam 2. I'm sure you know what I meant.
Zaslav vision and old regime are strange comments
Well it is a regime change. Hamada is no longer calling the shots, Zaslav is making huge changes and we're getting the formation of DC Studios which will mean all these DC movies will be made under that banner.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
That last comment about Cavill isn't even news. Cavill has been linked to a comeback for years, plus he was rumoured to appear at comic con.
If we see Cavill in Black Adam, it does not validate anything Superbs "sources" have said.
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As things stand Cavill is not playing Superman. And all mainstream publications are saying that he isn't coming back, some are even saying that he actively turned down the role.
And my source is saying the complete opposite that he definitely appears in Black Adam 2.
Are you currently seeing any mainstream sources report that Cavill is definitely in Black Adam ?
No is that answer. So yes Cavill appearing in Black Adam is very newsworthy and hugely significant.
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This was from July, claiming that Cavill would return:
https://fandomwire.com/henry-cavill-rumored-potential-superman-return-wb/
This was from July, reporting on the potential rumours about Cavill appearing at comic con:
https://screenrant.com/henry-cavill-superman-return-rumors-response-happen/
This was from July, claiming Cavill would show up at Comic con:
https://deadline.com/2022/07/comic-con-2022-schedule-what-to-expect-marvel-the-rock-teen-wolf-1235072894/
This was from 2021,Variety claiming that Cavill would return as superman but not in Shazam:
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/henry-cavill-superman-shazam-2-not-happening-1234902098/
As I said, you Superman claims are not unique. Cavills return was rumoured for a few years.
Take notes Superb, this is how you make a point and back it up with actual sources.
Sorry but none of those sources are reporting that Cavill is definitely back as Superman and definitely will appear in Black Adam. That's my point.
You've posted a few links relating to articles that have reported on rumours about Cavill returning and rumours that he was going to appear at Comic Con (which he didn't).
I'm not denying that. I've seen these reports and rumours too. Big deal. What's your point exactly ?
If you can find a mainstream report saying that Cavill is definitely back as Superman and that he definitely will appear in Black Adam then by all means produce it.
Superb
My point is simple:
Superb: My source claims Cavill is back and will appear in Black Adam.
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source, because it was already being claimed by several other sources, for years.
These reporting sites will never say something for definite, because it hurts their credibility if it does not transpire.
This is getting tedious. Shall I ban DC chat?
Or get the popcorn out
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
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And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 59 minutes ago
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
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Yes.
I believe Cavill will return and I want him to return.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
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And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
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It would still be irrelevant.
If Cavill returns or not, neither validates or discredits your source. That's the crux of my point.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 59 minutes ago
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
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Yes.
I believe Cavill will return and I want him to return.
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That's good then. So if he doesn't then you'll be in no position to criticize me or my source because you believe the same thing.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
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And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
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It would still be irrelevant.
If Cavill returns or not, neither validates or discredits your source. That's the crux of my point.
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To be honest I couldn't care less whether Cavill returning or not validates my source. That seems to be something you're caught up on.
Time will validate or discredit my source and all the things he's said will happen including Affleck also coming back properly to play Batman in future movies beyond The Flash.
My stance remains the same. The validity of your source will be proven or disproven, based on the below occuring:
Zaslav confirms everything verbally
Affleck gets a standalone movie
They continue the DCEU from Synders JL
They continue Snyders Darkseid story
Just for the record, validating sources is important, especially if you want to actually have a productive discussion that also has susbtance.
Speculating about what could and should happen is great too but there is a distinct line between claiming you have sources and just throwing out fan theories.
I'm not throwing out fan theories. I'm simply saying what a source who claims to have inside information at Warner has said will happen. Take it or leave it.
I've produced the bullet points of what he said and I'm happy to produce it again word for word anytime it's needed.
And as I've said time will prove him right or not. It's as simple as that.
Personally I hope he's right. I think Cavill and Affleck returning in various future movies beyond The Flash would be fantastic and would definitely get bums on seats. Especially if those movies happen to be Man of Steel 2 and a solo Batfleck movie.
Also the the continuation of the Darkseid story as well as Lex Luther and his new team including Deathstoke causing havoc across various movies. All the ingredients are there.
Pun you should probably call the thread Superb v Guv: Dawn of Zaslav
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pun you should probably call the thread Superb v Guv: Dawn of Zaslav
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posted on 11/8/22
And just so there's no confusing and twisting what I've said I'll repost exactly what I said yesterday:
I'm hearing David Zaslav has decided that he's going to continue the storyline from Snyder's Justice League movie and make it the canon JL movie instead of Whedon's version. This is what he means when he says they've done a reset.
This means that Affleck is back as Batman and will star as Batman again in future movies. His involvement in Aquaman 2 instead of Michael Keaton (who had already shot scenes for Aquaman 2 which were scrapped) is significant in terms of it's implications and not just a meaningless cameo as some have alluded to.
The previous regime at Warner (which have all gone now thankfully) wanted to make Keaton the main Batman in future DCU movies but it looks like that idea has been scrapped by Zaslav and Batfleck will return.
The Batgirl movie getting scrapped is all part of this because that movie and it's storyline doesn't align with the direction Zaslav is going.
Also the reshoots that we've been hearing about for Black Adam, Shazam 2 and The Flash are significant because they're altering things to make these movies align with the continuation of the Snyder JL story.
Apparently things will become clearer in Black Adam which is coming out in October and we're going to see the return of a certain Henry Cavill as Superman at some point in this movie.
Before one or two on here tear up this doesn't necessarily mean that Snyder is coming back in any capacity but it means that Affleck and Cavill are back and that we're going to continue the story from Snyder's JL (with or without Snyder). Probably without him as he's tied up with Netflix anyway.
Would give the likes of James Wan and Patty Jenkins the chance to direct some Justice League and Superman movies. Or Affleck himself to direct some, maybe he can do his Batman movie which was meant to be incredible according to those who'd seen the script.
So we can look forward to plenty more Cavill Superman, Affleck Batman and Justice League movies going forward. Hopefully a Man of Steel 2 as well as an epic solo Batfleck movie. We'll also see the return of Darkseid and the continuation of that story and probably means we'll get a huge Green Lantern Corps movie too to tie in the with the events of this universe. Cannot wait if this is what happens.
posted on 11/8/22
The reason we are summarising summarising because your long post is a bit confusing mate lol
posted on 11/8/22
Black Adam 2 lol
posted on 11/8/22
So in summary what my source is saying:
Zaslav has decided to make Snyder's JL movie the canon JL movie instead of Whedon's JL.
Future movies will be built on the events and storyline of Snyder's JL movie. Although there's no news about Snyder returning in any format.
Affleck appearing in Aquaman 2 instead of Keaton is significant and he's not getting killed off in The Flash. He's back as Batman in future movies
Cavill will feature in Black Adam and he's also back as Superman for future movies, hopefully Man of Steel 2 etc.
Batgirl was scrapped because it doesn't align with the vision that Zaslav has. The old regime at Warner headed by Walter Hamada wanted Batgirl and Supergirl to be the main characters in the DCEU and were going to bring back Keaton for several movies as well but Zaslav has canned that idea.
Reshoots on movies like Shazam, Black Adam and The Flash are being done to fit this new Zaslav vision which includes Batman and Superman being at the forefront of the DCEU.
posted on 11/8/22
comment by NPE - Turgid Tuchelball (U22712)
posted 3 seconds ago
Black Adam 2 lol
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Lol, I'm getting confused with Shazam 2. I'm sure you know what I meant.
posted on 11/8/22
Zaslav vision and old regime are strange comments
posted on 11/8/22
Well it is a regime change. Hamada is no longer calling the shots, Zaslav is making huge changes and we're getting the formation of DC Studios which will mean all these DC movies will be made under that banner.
posted on 11/8/22
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
That last comment about Cavill isn't even news. Cavill has been linked to a comeback for years, plus he was rumoured to appear at comic con.
If we see Cavill in Black Adam, it does not validate anything Superbs "sources" have said.
---------------
As things stand Cavill is not playing Superman. And all mainstream publications are saying that he isn't coming back, some are even saying that he actively turned down the role.
And my source is saying the complete opposite that he definitely appears in Black Adam 2.
Are you currently seeing any mainstream sources report that Cavill is definitely in Black Adam ?
No is that answer. So yes Cavill appearing in Black Adam is very newsworthy and hugely significant.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was from July, claiming that Cavill would return:
https://fandomwire.com/henry-cavill-rumored-potential-superman-return-wb/
This was from July, reporting on the potential rumours about Cavill appearing at comic con:
https://screenrant.com/henry-cavill-superman-return-rumors-response-happen/
This was from July, claiming Cavill would show up at Comic con:
https://deadline.com/2022/07/comic-con-2022-schedule-what-to-expect-marvel-the-rock-teen-wolf-1235072894/
This was from 2021,Variety claiming that Cavill would return as superman but not in Shazam:
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/henry-cavill-superman-shazam-2-not-happening-1234902098/
As I said, you Superman claims are not unique. Cavills return was rumoured for a few years.
Take notes Superb, this is how you make a point and back it up with actual sources.
posted on 11/8/22
Sorry but none of those sources are reporting that Cavill is definitely back as Superman and definitely will appear in Black Adam. That's my point.
You've posted a few links relating to articles that have reported on rumours about Cavill returning and rumours that he was going to appear at Comic Con (which he didn't).
I'm not denying that. I've seen these reports and rumours too. Big deal. What's your point exactly ?
If you can find a mainstream report saying that Cavill is definitely back as Superman and that he definitely will appear in Black Adam then by all means produce it.
posted on 11/8/22
Superb
My point is simple:
Superb: My source claims Cavill is back and will appear in Black Adam.
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source, because it was already being claimed by several other sources, for years.
These reporting sites will never say something for definite, because it hurts their credibility if it does not transpire.
posted on 11/8/22
so like transfer rumours
posted on 11/8/22
This is getting tedious. Shall I ban DC chat?
Or get the popcorn out
posted on 11/8/22
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
-----------------
And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
posted on 11/8/22
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
posted on 11/8/22
What is your source?
posted on 11/8/22
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 59 minutes ago
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.
I believe Cavill will return and I want him to return.
posted on 11/8/22
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
-----------------
And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It would still be irrelevant.
If Cavill returns or not, neither validates or discredits your source. That's the crux of my point.
posted on 11/8/22
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 59 minutes ago
Guv a very simple question for you as I'm confused where you actually stand on this now:
Do you believe that Cavill will coming back as Superman? Yes or no.
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Yes.
I believe Cavill will return and I want him to return.
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That's good then. So if he doesn't then you'll be in no position to criticize me or my source because you believe the same thing.
posted on 11/8/22
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Guvnor: Cavill has been rumoured to be back for years, therefore if he DOES return, it doesn't validate the efficacy of your source
-----------------
And yet if it transpires that Cavill isn't in Black Adam then no doubt you will come down on me and my source like a tonne of bricks.
You seem to want it both ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It would still be irrelevant.
If Cavill returns or not, neither validates or discredits your source. That's the crux of my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be honest I couldn't care less whether Cavill returning or not validates my source. That seems to be something you're caught up on.
Time will validate or discredit my source and all the things he's said will happen including Affleck also coming back properly to play Batman in future movies beyond The Flash.
posted on 11/8/22
My stance remains the same. The validity of your source will be proven or disproven, based on the below occuring:
Zaslav confirms everything verbally
Affleck gets a standalone movie
They continue the DCEU from Synders JL
They continue Snyders Darkseid story
posted on 11/8/22
Just for the record, validating sources is important, especially if you want to actually have a productive discussion that also has susbtance.
Speculating about what could and should happen is great too but there is a distinct line between claiming you have sources and just throwing out fan theories.
posted on 11/8/22
I'm not throwing out fan theories. I'm simply saying what a source who claims to have inside information at Warner has said will happen. Take it or leave it.
I've produced the bullet points of what he said and I'm happy to produce it again word for word anytime it's needed.
And as I've said time will prove him right or not. It's as simple as that.
posted on 11/8/22
Personally I hope he's right. I think Cavill and Affleck returning in various future movies beyond The Flash would be fantastic and would definitely get bums on seats. Especially if those movies happen to be Man of Steel 2 and a solo Batfleck movie.
Also the the continuation of the Darkseid story as well as Lex Luther and his new team including Deathstoke causing havoc across various movies. All the ingredients are there.
posted on 11/8/22
Pun you should probably call the thread Superb v Guv: Dawn of Zaslav
posted on 11/8/22
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pun you should probably call the thread Superb v Guv: Dawn of Zaslav
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