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The Sopranos ending infuriated a lot of people, now it is seen by a lot of people in retrospect as one of the great final episodes of television.



No its not. It was and still is divisive. In the end all shows will always be seen and less than Battlestar Galactica.

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Still such a drama queen I see. Calm ur tlts.

It was seen as a great final episode by those who liked it when it first came out. Same as people seeing it as an awful episode when it came out. I don't think time has changed anything with regards to that.

GoT blew an entire season. That opinion wont change with time.

The last season was shiiite. Lets not beat about the bush.

How I'd rank the seasons from best to worst

1- S3
2- S4
3- S2
4- S5
5- S1
6- S6
7- S7
8- S8

Season 1 above season 5 and you're spot on.

Those were the two i was mulling over but with Hardhome, it just swayed me.

I'd have S5 only above 7 and 8 personally. It had some amazing moments like hardhome but also had some of the worst scenes in the entire show.

That was the season with the bad poosey line

Tyene Sand

S5>S1 now.

S5 has always been odd to me. You'd think a series that had Hardhome, Mother's Mercy and ran on The High Sparrow's villainy (criminally overlooked character, no-one ever mentions him in hindsight) would've been so much better than it is.

It was that first series where you can see the bad tropes creeping in. Characters started becoming overexposed or sidelined for plot convenience, the time inconsistencies started, lots of dead scenes which did nothing to further plot or character progression, and worst of all looking back Jon's cliffhanger death was the first sign of "subverting expectations" without a plan to make it work.

Yeah, not a good series.

Whatever happened to those kids that helped blow up The Cept?

They just appeared and disappeared without any explanation at all

*Sept

They killed Pycelle. Far as I'm concerned they could've teleported out the scene at that moment and I'd have forgiven it

Actually that another overlooked character, Pycelle. Beautiful execution of a character that you love to hate, he was basically a mini-Joofrey in loath factor.

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Season 6 is better than 5 and had some excellent episodes, and moved the characters on nicely into the next chapter.

Season 5 had one excellent episode and some other good moments, but it plateaued a bit, and had the cheesy SJW villains, the Sand Snakes. They may have worked if they had been better developed only they weren't really given a proper introduction, and served no purpose other than to be "badass" women fighters. I didn't care when they died (did anyone?). I honestly cared more when the wildling woman at Hardhome died and we knew her for about 10 minutes.

Dorne was butchered, doran should have been communicating with dany

The show intentionally left out bulk of the Dorne story line.

Reckon D&D saw how Oberyn translated to the screen and thought, "nah, there's no way we're topping that without GRRM's cliff notes no matter how hard we try, might as well cut this out to spare ourselves future ridicule"

If that's true fair play. Looking at the disasterclass that was Euron they were absolutely right

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Reckon D&D saw how Oberyn translated to the screen and thought, "nah, there's no way we're topping that without GRRM's cliff notes no matter how hard we try, might as well cut this out to spare ourselves future ridicule"

If that's true fair play. Looking at the disasterclass that was Euron they were absolutely right
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I think D and D actully improved on the Oberyn storyline from the book version, they also did the Red Wedding and Purple Wedding more effectively, and creatively added in great plotlines like Arya/Tywin. I think people are doing them a disservice on here.
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That comment was tongue in cheek, except the Euron bit - compared to his book counterpart he was just bad, no redeeming qualities.

I agree that the criticism D&D have got as writers in general since S8 (even S7) has been a bit over the top. People forget even with GRRM's guidance they were writing the early seasons too, so they're not completely inept.

One example of them adapting a character fantastically to the screen was Ramsey. That was a hard character to dilute with the characterization being stronger than Joffrey, but they did a really good job of getting the balance just right without turning him into a torture p*rn antagonist. Throw in Iwon Rheon's charisma giving the character a supervillain like tone and bam.... great on-screen character

I think there is a perception that the less the drew from the book, the worse it became.

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True, but when you look back at a series you don't generally pick it apart season by season after a long while. A bad ending tarnishes it's overall rep. Fairly okay unfairly.