There are so many moving parts to sort out this summer, if we’re not careful, both keepers exit, we might also see other first teasers sold off and suddenly it’s another rebuilding job.

I understand Bielsa is over in Qatar, this whole takeover talk needs to be sorted quickly so they can plan for next season properly.

"I understand Bielsa is over in Qatar, this whole takeover talk needs to be sorted quickly so they can plan for next season properly."

1. I hope they let him leave, and
2. Absolutely spot on, need to get it done and dusted, one way or the other toot suite/chopchop!

I don't see how the club can guarantee him 1st team football. Nobody is guaranteed a 1st team place so he shouldn't be either, it depends on form and who else is giving you competition for your place. BPF has potential but I'm not convinced he is a promotion team winning goalkeeper. Which means if he's not happy fighting for a 1st team place he's probably best moving, even if it's to a smaller club.

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
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we have plenty of those.

When you look at Championship stats, BPF was 4th in terms of clean sheet percentage and one has to remember he was almost always behind an unsettled defence that had Douglas giving away pens, Ayling in what a lot of people said was poor form, makeshift CB pairings etc.

https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/keepers/Championship-Stats

Yes, he's not perfect but the desire to just replace him is not really in synch with what the word "supporter" should mean.

How can you criticise Douglas when he was in the team at the top of the league?

You have double standards and a lack of consistency.

Thanks for the stats though. Shows BPF to have the 18th best shot stop percentage out of 23 that had played enough minutes. And a worse shot stop percentage than Casilla.

Don’t get why it’s ok to criticise one player in the side that was top of the league but not another.

You have repeatedly said Douglas needs replacing but he was starting every game when BPF was.

Is it because he’s an Orta singing it’s ok?

People under estimate Douglas, I was at Wigan away I think one of his first games for us and he was absolute quality. His passing down the line is what gave us a balanced attack and therefore helped give Pablo space.

Sure he lacks pace but personally I think if he gets back to full fitness he’ll be excellent.

Admittedly Alioski was excellent but his ball playing is of inferior quality.

In my ideal team I’d have Douglas and a real quick tricky left footed winger in front of him.

Sounds harsh as he is one of my favourite players but Alioski isn’t good enough to start LW and I don’t think he is good enough at LB.

Ah I see. More ammo for the Jonty complaining train.

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
How can you criticise Douglas when he was in the team at the top of the league?

You have double standards and a lack of consistency.

Thanks for the stats though. Shows BPF to have the 18th best shot stop percentage out of 23 that had played enough minutes. And a worse shot stop percentage than Casilla.

Don’t get why it’s ok to criticise one player in the side that was top of the league but not another.

You have repeatedly said Douglas needs replacing but he was starting every game when BPF was.

Is it because he’s an Orta singing it’s ok?
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Douglas was in and out of the side and when in did not deliver what most of us hoped for and in fact proved to be a bit of a liability at the back.

There is nothing wrong with offering an opinion on a player, but the constant calls for BPF to be dropped, sold, or loaned out, the puerile put down comments about him are way over the top.

He started 20 games out of 25 up to the bad run in January. Missed the others only through injury.

Results were worse when he was missing as well.

But yes I agree he did prove to be a bit of a liability and didn’t deliver what we expected. How does that hold up to your argument that he must be good enough because the team were top of the league then?

W-8...D-2...L-6...

W-16...D-6...L-6...

So, if the first stat was BPF than people would have grounds to bring him down!..

The second stat isn't Casilla but is 2x's better than the first!..

Don't understand why people bring the young lad down that has done twice as good as the so called superior keeper!..

Funny, but we were top of the league with BPF as well!..

and then Douglas missed all of January, but we were still top of it at the end of it.

I haven't gone through every game results wise for Douglas influence, but if you make a claim like that, keen to see your stats on it.

I made the point earlier about players being ever-present during that successful period and therefore there must be some sort of correlation between their presence and the fact we were top. Players who weren't there for every match (Douglas) have less of a correlation.

We were top despite BFP. Not a good enough keeper.

The not stopping shots were becoming more and more, nearly every game towards the end.

There a reason why he was replaced, and it wasn’t because he was playing well.

Sadly we made a bad signing in castillo, but that doesn’t hide the fact, BFP was good enough

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 5 minutes ago
We were top despite BFP. Not a good enough keeper.

The not stopping shots were becoming more and more, nearly every game towards the end.

There a reason why he was replaced, and it wasn’t because he was playing well.

Sadly we made a bad signing in castillo, but that doesn’t hide the fact, BFP was good enough
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I guess there should be a not there? 😉

comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 45 minutes ago
W-8...D-2...L-6...

W-16...D-6...L-6...

So, if the first stat was BPF than people would have grounds to bring him down!..

The second stat isn't Casilla but is 2x's better than the first!..

Don't understand why people bring the young lad down that has done twice as good as the so called superior keeper!..

Funny, but we were top of the league with BPF as well!..
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Wrong, we played better before christmas because I was smoking back then 🙂

Everyone says you can't win things without a top keeper. Until we we replaced BPF we were winning the thing, it was unthinkable at that point that we wouldn't finish top 2.

He made plenty of blocks and saves that won us points, and yes he did make mistakes, but hje was working behind a defence that was constantly changing and it was his first full season at that level, I think he actually did really well all things considered and at 22, according to goalkeeper logic is not at his prime yet.

We can focus on goalie and completely ignore the fact that Bielsa along with everyone else has said that the real problem is not converting chances.

If you have a choice between upgrading BPF or improving strike force to convert the sorts of ratios Bielsa keeps banging on about, then which one is the priority?

We are not going to have money to burn, I would feel more comfortable exiting Casilla, keeping BPF and Huffer etc and investing in a real creative player to supplement Pablo and a more clinical striker.

So does anyone really think he showed enough to guarantee him the number one shirt? Truthfully?

Norway, I'd think before Christmas BPF was in goal, so, things started going bad when?..

We've always gone into meltdown after Christmas, but this time we got a little closer than other years, but, if he'd stayed between the pegs it could have been so much better!..

And yes LIW, I think it a bit better having a so called below average,(whatever you want to call it!)keeper letting fewer in than what we ended up with!..

Bielsa's system puts pressure on the defense, always has always will, and like Jonty says we should worry more about our front line than about BPF, because things were better back than then it ended!..

Norway, start smoking again!.

Sol, nobody in any position should be guaranteed!..

Hes got one of the worst save percentages in the league. I really don’t get what the argument is about.

The arguments for don’t relate to his performances. We were top of the league because of the likes of Roofe, Pablo & Phillips dominating sides.

Do you actually watch the games.

BPF is not awful. He wasn’t the reason we didn’t go up. I like the lad. But we can get a better keeper and win more points.

Who doesn’t want to win more points?

And anyone that says he doesn’t let shots in that he should save is lying

Roofe was out for nearly 2 months, as was Hernandez, whilst BPF was ever present, do you actually watch the games?

Yes. When was the last time you went?

August, but have watched every match.

Your making claims about players without even realising that they were missing for substantial periods of time.

We were winning more points when he was in goal!..

But you don't have to watch games to see that!..

Do you think that BPF contributed more to us being top of the league than those three players?

You people do not understand the importance of a direct correlation between statistics. You don’t understand the importance of eliminating variables. This is ridiculous.

The stat you are clinging to is so far down the list of relevance.

Why are you ignoring his save percentage.