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posted on 15/11/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fully costed, just like the rest of their manifesto.
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Can you explain that? I don't understand what you're saying or what your point is? Also I'm not pro Conservs as stated before.

I have an agnostic view on all parties and hate them all with the same amount of disdain.

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 15/11/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Nicottino (U14419)
posted 2 minutes ago
I wonder how many people realise the scale of the wealth being ferreted away by the 1%. ? Even a very modest incursion into those piles of mainly dormant wealth would pay for all of Labour's promises several times over. We are being ripped off on a historical scale.
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Mate, they are brainwashed by those earning £2000 an hour to hate those earning £7.61 an hour whilst they’re on £11 an hour.

Yes, they are THAT stupid.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why don't you look at the actual picture and see how bad these services currently are.

People with this view point are the reason tories have ruined you country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you serious, what benefit does a BT or Vodafone have in producing a bad service?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You assume it will all be badly run and managed which you cannot be clear on, also plenty of these companies don't offer stellar service and the competition has done little to reduce costs across the board.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fully costed, just like the rest of their manifesto.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you explain that? I don't understand what you're saying or what your point is? Also I'm not pro Conservs as stated before.

I have an agnostic view on all parties and hate them all with the same amount of disdain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will be paid for by taxing the tech giants.

And about fecking time too.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not being arrogant mate you are by claiming these people don't deserve it cause you think they don't.

Small business don't have an impact on what a late corporation pay their staff, its simple, the amount of profit the company makes is not reflected the wages they pay, this is the point.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why don't you look at the actual picture and see how bad these services currently are.

People with this view point are the reason tories have ruined you country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you serious, what benefit does a BT or Vodafone have in producing a bad service?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You assume it will all be badly run and managed which you cannot be clear on, also plenty of these companies don't offer stellar service and the competition has done little to reduce costs across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't assume, I study basic economics.

You are Sizzle have offered no real alternative to my argument. This isnt a Labour vs Conserv thing, I hate both/all with a passion.

I just think privatisng BT is not a good idea

posted on 15/11/19

There all lying facktards anyway I don’t vote never have never will.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
Awful policy.

Funny how humans make the same mistakes over and over - as if the nationalisation of this and other industries would be a good thing.


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Absolute waffle Winston, privitization is the single biggest factor in the sky rocketing prices for public transport for example.

Humans haven't made any mistakes here you are poorly informed
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh really?

Maybe you'd like to have a little research back into what a nationalised service is like for utilities.

Let me know how you get on.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Awful policy.

Funny how humans make the same mistakes over and over - as if the nationalisation of this and other industries would be a good thing.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

LIke privisation is benefiting us all. The only thing privisation does is benefits the very rich. Only fools would think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Two points:

1. I didn't say or imply privitisation is perfect. It has massive issues.

2. The problems with privitisation don't mean nationalisation is automatically the better alternative.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why don't you look at the actual picture and see how bad these services currently are.

People with this view point are the reason tories have ruined you country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you serious, what benefit does a BT or Vodafone have in producing a bad service?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You assume it will all be badly run and managed which you cannot be clear on, also plenty of these companies don't offer stellar service and the competition has done little to reduce costs across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't assume, I study basic economics.

You are Sizzle have offered no real alternative to my argument. This isnt a Labour vs Conserv thing, I hate both/all with a passion.

I just think privatisng BT is not a good idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who’s side are you on?

Ordinary people, or tax dodging billionaires?

It’s really that simple.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Awful policy.

Funny how humans make the same mistakes over and over - as if the nationalisation of this and other industries would be a good thing.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

LIke privisation is benefiting us all. The only thing privisation does is benefits the very rich. Only fools would think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Two points:

1. I didn't say or imply privitisation is perfect. It has massive issues.

2. The problems with privitisation don't mean nationalisation is automatically the better alternative.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is the better alternative. By far.

posted on 15/11/19

Tried and failed in Australia

Won’t be delivered until 2030

Estimated cost £20Billion in today’s money. Expect it to double/treble in the next 11 yrs, like HS2

Better solution is to offer tax breaks to the broadband companies to get fibre and 5G up and running across the country and WITHOUT increasing prices

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 15/11/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not being arrogant mate you are by claiming these people don't deserve it cause you think they don't.

Small business don't have an impact on what a late corporation pay their staff, its simple, the amount of profit the company makes is not reflected the wages they pay, this is the point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A minimum wage of £15/hour for fast-food workers and jobs of equivalent skill is not good for the economy however you look at it.

Small businesses won't be able to grow, there will be less jobs with businesses looking to technology instead, and stuff will cost a fortune.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Awful policy.

Funny how humans make the same mistakes over and over - as if the nationalisation of this and other industries would be a good thing.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

LIke privisation is benefiting us all. The only thing privisation does is benefits the very rich. Only fools would think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Two points:

1. I didn't say or imply privitisation is perfect. It has massive issues.

2. The problems with privitisation don't mean nationalisation is automatically the better alternative.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is the better alternative. By far.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 9 minutes ago
Tried and failed in Australia

Won’t be delivered until 2030

Estimated cost £20Billion in today’s money. Expect it to double/treble in the next 11 yrs, like HS2

Better solution is to offer tax breaks to the broadband companies to get fibre and 5G up and running across the country and WITHOUT increasing prices
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tax Breaks?

Wouldn’t they have to pay tax first ffs?

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not being arrogant mate you are by claiming these people don't deserve it cause you think they don't.

Small business don't have an impact on what a late corporation pay their staff, its simple, the amount of profit the company makes is not reflected the wages they pay, this is the point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A minimum wage of £15/hour for fast-food workers and jobs of equivalent skill is not good for the economy however you look at it.

Small businesses won't be able to grow, there will be less jobs with businesses looking to technology instead, and stuff will cost a fortune.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It`s like at WHL mate, the staff serving you behind the bars and food outlets are getting paid a pittance, whilst Levy is charging ticket prices of upwards of £100 and more just to sit and watch 90 minutes of football.

Why shouldn`t Levy pay his staff more?

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Awful policy.

Funny how humans make the same mistakes over and over - as if the nationalisation of this and other industries would be a good thing.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

LIke privisation is benefiting us all. The only thing privisation does is benefits the very rich. Only fools would think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Two points:

1. I didn't say or imply privitisation is perfect. It has massive issues.

2. The problems with privitisation don't mean nationalisation is automatically the better alternative.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is the better alternative. By far.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I’m sorry, but more of the f*cking same $hit isn’t working for me.

If you can afford to pay for broadband, massive heating bills, ridiculous travel costs and (soon) private health care for you and your family, hooray for you.

Most people can’t.

posted on 15/11/19

I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than vote Labour

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not being arrogant mate you are by claiming these people don't deserve it cause you think they don't.

Small business don't have an impact on what a late corporation pay their staff, its simple, the amount of profit the company makes is not reflected the wages they pay, this is the point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A minimum wage of £15/hour for fast-food workers and jobs of equivalent skill is not good for the economy however you look at it.

Small businesses won't be able to grow, there will be less jobs with businesses looking to technology instead, and stuff will cost a fortune.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, why are we pandering to small business or ANY businesses as if they’re the be all and end all.

Wealth creator b0llocks.

posted on 15/11/19

Automatic For The People (U21889)

So the only solution to these problems is to nationalise everything?

Okay.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

McDonalds raked in over £21 billion last year, and you don`t think their workers are worth £15 an hour.

posted on 15/11/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 26 seconds ago
Not too fussed about free broadband.

Is he still offering more bank holidays?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Save that for another thread really or this is going to turn into policy debates when it should be about the privatisation of BT and it's pros and cons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pros. Free Broadband for everyone.


Now you go....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Short term management (Government thinking of the next election)
Reduced efficiency (No competition)
Poorly managed (just look at the funding for the NHS)
May need more funding - potential tax increase etc

That's just off the top of my head, look at the bigger picture ffs.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why don't you look at the actual picture and see how bad these services currently are.

People with this view point are the reason tories have ruined you country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you serious, what benefit does a BT or Vodafone have in producing a bad service?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You assume it will all be badly run and managed which you cannot be clear on, also plenty of these companies don't offer stellar service and the competition has done little to reduce costs across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't assume, I study basic economics.

You are Sizzle have offered no real alternative to my argument. This isnt a Labour vs Conserv thing, I hate both/all with a passion.

I just think privatisng BT is not a good idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who’s side are you on?

Ordinary people, or tax dodging billionaires?

It’s really that simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The way i look at it is that the parties should be focusing on what affects people most. Don't ever remember anyone saying to me that the cost of Broadband is out of control. Its a competitive market where there is a range of services on offer. People can always find good deals and can now move around with ease.

People will typically be spending more on a mobile phone contract than on BB. You can basically get fast BB for about £5 a week. Less than a bottle of wine. A pint and a half. 10 cigarettes.

To me this is a gimmick...offering something that really is not an issue with the vast majority, but the solution to achieve it will be hugely expensive and disruptive. It will only ever become a growing burden on the countries finances without having any significant productive benefits other than lowering peoples bills.

As someone else above said, the focus should be ensuring 5G is rolled out across the country and rural areas are much better served than currently. This will deliver fairness in a competitive market where market forces will ensure prices stay reasonable.

posted on 15/11/19

Trickle down economy.

Do people STILL believe in this rubbish,

posted on 15/11/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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comment by Edbo (U17933)
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comment by Edbo (U17933)
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Look, Labour's policies look absolutely fantastic, but they're totally unrealistic and unsustainable. It's almost as if Corbyn is offering bribes in return for votes sometimes.

I mean you had him supporting the notion of McDonald's workers getting £15/hour the other day FFS.

Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.
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They said the same mate about thewhen they were trying to get the NHS up and running in the 1940s. Tories opposed it at every turn and said it was living in cloud cuckoo land. Same with the big council house build after the 2nd world war.

If you really want things mate in this country, you have to invest.

And why shouldn`t McDonald`s workers get £15 an hour. Why do you think they are less deserving than a pen pusher in an office who is on £50 an hour? McDonald`s workers are the very people that are underpaid for very long hours. The sort of cheap Labour Wetherspoons Boss Tim Martin built his empire on.
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe working in a fast food restaurant warrants £15/hour. If that's forced upon McDonalds, there will be less jobs available and you better get used to paying £15 for a Big Mac meal. (At least it would tackle the obesity problem).
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Who are you to claim this? And why are you so against a massive company like McDonald's paying their staff more when it has zero impact on you?

Cant get my head around why so many seem to want to keep people down, absolute tories
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Who am I to have an opinion on something? Stop being so arrogant.

As I said, you pay people in low-skilled jobs £15/hour and watch the amount of people in work drop and businesses (particularly small) crumble. Not rocket science.
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I'm not being arrogant mate you are by claiming these people don't deserve it cause you think they don't.

Small business don't have an impact on what a late corporation pay their staff, its simple, the amount of profit the company makes is not reflected the wages they pay, this is the point.
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A minimum wage of £15/hour for fast-food workers and jobs of equivalent skill is not good for the economy however you look at it.

Small businesses won't be able to grow, there will be less jobs with businesses looking to technology instead, and stuff will cost a fortune.
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It`s like at WHL mate, the staff serving you behind the bars and food outlets are getting paid a pittance, whilst Levy is charging ticket prices of upwards of £100 and more just to sit and watch 90 minutes of football.

Why shouldn`t Levy pay his staff more?
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