comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 seconds ago
NB:
If you criticise Corbyn or any of his policies, it automatically means that you are a Tory voting cvnt.
That's Robbing's contribution to this thread, in a nutshell.
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Except I haven't done that. You are such a massive hypocrite you absolutely have to be a wum.
It's embarrassing Winston, just let normal people chat and enjoy the site please.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 seconds ago
NB:
If you criticise Corbyn or any of his policies, it automatically means that you are a Tory voting cvnt.
That's Robbing's contribution to this thread, in a nutshell.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I haven't done that. You are such a massive hypocrite you absolutely have to be a wum.
It's embarrassing Winston, just let normal people chat and enjoy the site please.
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You did that to me last time and yet again, you've assumed that because I'm anti-nationalisation of our railways that must mean I think our railways are brilliant and therefore I read the Daily Mail.
You really need to grow up and learn to debate like an adult - your contribution on this thread is laughable.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
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Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
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Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
Oh and do point out any hypocrisy when you come across it, there's a good lad.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
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Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
==================
Yeah but Amazon prime is quite good so fvck poor people.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But at least everybody can afford to use it.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
These policies are becoming more farcical by the day Basically resorted to free money for all.
Such a shame Labour don't have a sensible leader who would position themselves to the centre left. They would cruise to a majority.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But at least everybody can afford to use it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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yes I was going to add that to my post but wondered if anyone would bring it up.
I have doctor friends who work shifts, eg four days on four off etc. So how would the four day week be implemented.
Also, on the plan for the wider economy in general, will the four day week be mandatory or voluntary, and if people opt in, would employers be permitted to reduce wages accordingly?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
4 on 3 off or visa versa
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think they could get some money but not letting billionaires avoid oodles of tax?
Either way the Tories have managed to not only be complicit towards the death of thousands upon thousands of deaths but they did so by managing to double the deficit in the process,
NBot saying you do but across the board if you vote Tory you don't give a sh!t about people and you're a cvnt imo.
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But consider where we would be....sure austerity has been too deep and too long in some areas but Christ! where would our borrowing be now if austerity had not happened....and what brought it about? A massive financial crisis on Labour's watch....while they may not have been the cause the position they had the economy in left us massively exposed. Massive borrowing. Huge State. Brown selling off half our gold reserves at the bottom of the market. Times were good but they were in some bubble, saw no problems and when it burst it was catastrophic.
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
4 on 3 off or visa versa
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
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Yes. You said a four day working week for emergency services was a terrible idea. They currently operate mostly on 4 day shift patterns.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
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They are dealing with the Tories mess NOW.
£50k debt once they’ve left University and will never be able to afford their own homes.
It’s the older generation who’ve had it easy, feee education, cheap housing, and all the benefits of EU membership for forty years.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
4 on 3 off or visa versa
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
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Yes. You said a four day working week for emergency services was a terrible idea. They currently operate mostly on 4 day shift patterns.
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But that's not the same is it. Stop adding two and two and making five. I'm suggesting trying to apply a blanket four day week to emergency services wouldn't work since it relies largely on shift work and on-call work etc
Pretty much.
I think the real thing is that people can't believe that working less hours can work. That's where they have got us. That it's okay to work 60 hour weeks and still be in poverty, that there is not better way, it's a scam.
In France you're literally not allowed to work that many hours as a nurse. Having been a nurse and now working in healthcare recruitment I can absolutely tell you that they way the Tories have run the NHS into the ground is nothing short of dangerous.
PEOPLE ARE DYING FFS.
I get people don't like Corbyn but at least have the ball to say;
You want schools to be underfunded and open part time
You want there to be too few Police
You want nurses to be underpaid
You want chidlren to be hungry
You want people dying on the streets
You want people failed on their health assessments on purpose
You want your own citizens to be deported after 50 years here
You want Grenfell
You want poor public services
You'd still be a cvnt but at least there would be a grudging respect for actually being honest
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 seconds ago
NB:
If you criticise Corbyn or any of his policies, it automatically means that you are a Tory voting cvnt.
That's Robbing's contribution to this thread, in a nutshell.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I haven't done that. You are such a massive hypocrite you absolutely have to be a wum.
It's embarrassing Winston, just let normal people chat and enjoy the site please.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 seconds ago
NB:
If you criticise Corbyn or any of his policies, it automatically means that you are a Tory voting cvnt.
That's Robbing's contribution to this thread, in a nutshell.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I haven't done that. You are such a massive hypocrite you absolutely have to be a wum.
It's embarrassing Winston, just let normal people chat and enjoy the site please.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You did that to me last time and yet again, you've assumed that because I'm anti-nationalisation of our railways that must mean I think our railways are brilliant and therefore I read the Daily Mail.
You really need to grow up and learn to debate like an adult - your contribution on this thread is laughable.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
posted on 15/11/19
Oh and do point out any hypocrisy when you come across it, there's a good lad.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
posted on 15/11/19
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
==================
Yeah but Amazon prime is quite good so fvck poor people.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But at least everybody can afford to use it.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
posted on 15/11/19
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
posted on 15/11/19
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
posted on 15/11/19
These policies are becoming more farcical by the day Basically resorted to free money for all.
Such a shame Labour don't have a sensible leader who would position themselves to the centre left. They would cruise to a majority.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This notion that socialism and bringing public services cannot work is the biggest right wing con of modern times. Frances railway works just fine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that the railway system that ground to a halt last year as workers walked out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, strikes happen. They disrupt normal operations.
Using a strike as a means to suggest that a service is not normally good is like conomaining about how bad your butcher is if you o ly he there when it is closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suggest you look into the subject a bit further before you make that judgement.
It's the very fact that the French railways are nationalised that have enabled them to be shut down for such long periods of time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But at least everybody can afford to use it.
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
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So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
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Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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yes I was going to add that to my post but wondered if anyone would bring it up.
I have doctor friends who work shifts, eg four days on four off etc. So how would the four day week be implemented.
Also, on the plan for the wider economy in general, will the four day week be mandatory or voluntary, and if people opt in, would employers be permitted to reduce wages accordingly?
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
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So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
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Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
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That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
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Do you think they could get some money but not letting billionaires avoid oodles of tax?
Either way the Tories have managed to not only be complicit towards the death of thousands upon thousands of deaths but they did so by managing to double the deficit in the process,
NBot saying you do but across the board if you vote Tory you don't give a sh!t about people and you're a cvnt imo.
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But consider where we would be....sure austerity has been too deep and too long in some areas but Christ! where would our borrowing be now if austerity had not happened....and what brought it about? A massive financial crisis on Labour's watch....while they may not have been the cause the position they had the economy in left us massively exposed. Massive borrowing. Huge State. Brown selling off half our gold reserves at the bottom of the market. Times were good but they were in some bubble, saw no problems and when it burst it was catastrophic.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
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So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
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Yes. You said a four day working week for emergency services was a terrible idea. They currently operate mostly on 4 day shift patterns.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
Free?
Who pays for it then?
Who pays for the infrastructure that’s already been invested in by the current providers?
How do you go about changing provider if you’re not happy with the service you’re getting?
Bloody Corbyn and his magic money tree to the rescue.
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Yeah, that’ll be the same magic money tree that the Tories have magically found just before an election.
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That magic tree is called borrowing.
Conservatives hav said about £20bn extra borrowing, which sets a new cap of about 3% of GDP.
Labour are proposing £55bn extra borrowing, about 5% of GDP. Last time it was this high, 1976, Britain faced financial crisis. The Labour government was forced to apply to the IMF for a loan of nearly $4 billion. IMF negotiators insisted on deep cuts in public expenditure, greatly affecting economic and social policy.
Brings to mind the famous quote, Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jeremy, the 1970s are calling, they want their policies back!
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Ah yes, the 1970’s, when education was free, people got paid a decent wage for the work they did, and youngsters could actually afford to leave home and get a place or their own before the age of 40.
How awful.
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Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
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They are dealing with the Tories mess NOW.
£50k debt once they’ve left University and will never be able to afford their own homes.
It’s the older generation who’ve had it easy, feee education, cheap housing, and all the benefits of EU membership for forty years.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 seconds ago
What is Labour's plan re the four day working week, for the NHS?
They seemed to contradict themselves yesterday when they stated it wouldn't apply to NHS workers but also that it would. And if they plan to put 26bn into the NHS, where will this money go on the assumption there is reduced working hours.
Personally I think a four day working week for emergency services is a terrible idea
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Most emergency services operate on 4 day shift patterns anyway.
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4 on 3 off or visa versa
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So Palmers_Spur thinks the way the emergency services currently operate is a terrible idea.
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did i say that you fool
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Yes. You said a four day working week for emergency services was a terrible idea. They currently operate mostly on 4 day shift patterns.
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But that's not the same is it. Stop adding two and two and making five. I'm suggesting trying to apply a blanket four day week to emergency services wouldn't work since it relies largely on shift work and on-call work etc
posted on 15/11/19
Pretty much.
I think the real thing is that people can't believe that working less hours can work. That's where they have got us. That it's okay to work 60 hour weeks and still be in poverty, that there is not better way, it's a scam.
In France you're literally not allowed to work that many hours as a nurse. Having been a nurse and now working in healthcare recruitment I can absolutely tell you that they way the Tories have run the NHS into the ground is nothing short of dangerous.
PEOPLE ARE DYING FFS.
I get people don't like Corbyn but at least have the ball to say;
You want schools to be underfunded and open part time
You want there to be too few Police
You want nurses to be underpaid
You want chidlren to be hungry
You want people dying on the streets
You want people failed on their health assessments on purpose
You want your own citizens to be deported after 50 years here
You want Grenfell
You want poor public services
You'd still be a cvnt but at least there would be a grudging respect for actually being honest
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