No one willing to say who they're voting for using policy only?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
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Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
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It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
So, if you don't want Corbyn, you automatically want these things:
You want schools to be underfunded and open part time
You want there to be too few Police
You want nurses to be underpaid
You want chidlren to be hungry
You want people dying on the streets
You want people failed on their health assessments on purpose
You want your own citizens to be deported after 50 years here
You want Grenfell
You want poor public services
Outstanding levels of debate here.
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No one has actually said you want those things if you don't vote Corbyn. They have said those are the things that happen under the Tories and if you vote for them you are complicit.
If you are going to try and join people on a high horse, at least put your foot in the stirrup first.
You'll need to learn to do that if you are going to join the Tories on their fox hunts.
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Go back and look at what was said.
It's quite clearly implied.
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So you made an assumption.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
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It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
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Blue passports and SOV RUN TEE.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 12 seconds ago
Something needs doing about broadband though, we can only get superfast at ours, ultrafast still not available ffs it's 2019 we shouldn't be living in these conditions. Whoever can bring ultrafast to my postcode will get a vote from me. And that's coming from a big dial up fan.
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To be fair, there are a lot of areas where it isn't available and private corporations have no interest in building the infrastructure there are its not profitable for them.
Broadband is becoming a key infrastructure in this country and infrastructure that is key to the economy and its citizens should be publicly controlled.
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It should be free, like you say its becoming an essential part of life, companies are making billions off our complete addiction (while often necessary) to the Internet.
I don't think it ever will actually be completely free but if Labour can tax large providers more and get that money used to reduce cost, make some places free WiFi etc. It's a start.
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A start (possibly something that could already be done) would be to make very basic necessary speeds free for everybody, with increases depending on how fast you need from that point upwards.
With how many local branches of banks in towns, and other services that are geared towards needing the internet just to pay bills, bank, even paying council tax etc - these things can be done with limited internet speed and should be accessible for everybody whatever income you are on.
local branches of banks closing*
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
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Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
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There has been an increase in tax revenue following recent cuts to the corp tax rate.
Looking at probably the biggest contributing industry, financial services have already seen jobs lost with Brexit with more planned. Raising the corp tax rate by 10% would have an impact.
While I agree the personal tax increases Labour would introduce I don’t the corp tax ones.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Fair, would you then vote lib dem?
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I wouldn’t, no.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 minutes ago
No one willing to say who they're voting for using policy only?
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I'll be voting lib dem as they would cancel brexit. I wouldn't vote for the Tories given their stance on brexit and I wouldn't vote for Labour given the damage they would do to the economy
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
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Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
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Big claim that I haven’t seen any compelling evidence for.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
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And London.
And Liverpool
And Manchester....
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
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Many of these problems have arisen as a consequence of the financial crisis and the policies that followed.
If you compare it to football it's like the next round of TV money being way less than now, overnight. Its a fact that people would lose their jobs, cuts would have to be made, there would be suffering,
If you think these issues from the financial crisis are exclusively as a result of Tory policy then you are blinkered.....Labour had our borrowing at sky high levels in the good times....it was like being successful and well paid was not enough, we also had to max out our credit cards and sell off family assets cheaply because we wanted to spend more and more and more.
This is what many people fear because Labour have historically been poor at managing the economy.
The mess we were left with made the deep cuts necessary and while Labour would have borrowed more and cut less that would put us into a position where right now, as we move clear of austerity our debt levels & annual borrowing would be way higher and so much of what we were gaining from a better economy would be used in paying debt. But there was no magic answer, suffering was inevitable. Our spending and borrowing have been slashed but at least that means now that they can increase within a reasonable range (although Labours 5% of GDP is not reasonable IMO). If they were high already then we'd have nowhere to go with extra borrowing and investment.
To make this a choice of suffering under Tories and Happiness and Joy under labour is totally false. EVERYTHING needs to be paid for. Labour's spending simply kicks the 'suffering can' down the road to deal with later.
What if we hit recession in 2 or 3 years. Look at Germany, strongest Euro economy, just avoided it this year...What happens with our sky high borrowing under Labour then? Even greater suffering is the answer.
In my area it's Labour or Conservative, pretty close, any other vote is a wasted one tbh.
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
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Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
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Big claim that I haven’t seen any compelling evidence for.
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Are you serious?
Hunt literally wrote a book on it. They're doing it now. It's not up for debate.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
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And London.
And Liverpool
And Manchester....
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Wouldn’t have said London was a traditional labour area myself, even if it is now
Lets post other ridiculous Labpur policies;
Government cobtracts wont be awarded to companies that are registered abroad and avoid tax.
mental
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There has been an increase in tax revenue following recent cuts to the corp tax rate.
Looking at probably the biggest contributing industry, financial services have already seen jobs lost with Brexit with more planned. Raising the corp tax rate by 10% would have an impact.
While I agree the personal tax increases Labour would introduce I don’t the corp tax ones.
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They have not proposed to increase it by 10%. As far as I have seen they have proposed to increase it back to 2011 levels.
You also expect the cash value of corporation tax to increase each year as the economy grows. It is very myopic only to look at it in those terms (which is what the Tories want and what they try with the NHS when only talking monetary values).
The rate against GDP has dipped several times and it has decreased as a percentage of the overall government intake. The monetary rates also ignore the measures that have been put in place to avoid losing revenue overseas, which although they don't go far enough (look at Jacob Rees-Mogg's company) they have had some impact. Government reports have also stated that intake would have increased if the rate was higher.
In terms of Brexit, that is going to have a far bigger impact than any of Corbyn's policies. I don't want to leave the EU anyway.
A lot of the most deprived areas of the country voted leave.
Look at Sunderland, +60% voted brexit despite them having the largest the country's biggest car factory - Nissan.
There is no logic to who voted brexit and where
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many of these problems have arisen as a consequence of the financial crisis and the policies that followed.
If you compare it to football it's like the next round of TV money being way less than now, overnight. Its a fact that people would lose their jobs, cuts would have to be made, there would be suffering,
If you think these issues from the financial crisis are exclusively as a result of Tory policy then you are blinkered.....Labour had our borrowing at sky high levels in the good times....it was like being successful and well paid was not enough, we also had to max out our credit cards and sell off family assets cheaply because we wanted to spend more and more and more.
This is what many people fear because Labour have historically been poor at managing the economy.
The mess we were left with made the deep cuts necessary and while Labour would have borrowed more and cut less that would put us into a position where right now, as we move clear of austerity our debt levels & annual borrowing would be way higher and so much of what we were gaining from a better economy would be used in paying debt. But there was no magic answer, suffering was inevitable. Our spending and borrowing have been slashed but at least that means now that they can increase within a reasonable range (although Labours 5% of GDP is not reasonable IMO). If they were high already then we'd have nowhere to go with extra borrowing and investment.
To make this a choice of suffering under Tories and Happiness and Joy under labour is totally false. EVERYTHING needs to be paid for. Labour's spending simply kicks the 'suffering can' down the road to deal with later.
What if we hit recession in 2 or 3 years. Look at Germany, strongest Euro economy, just avoided it this year...What happens with our sky high borrowing under Labour then? Even greater suffering is the answer.
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Brexit is predicted to cost our economy £700Billion A YEAR for the next 20 years.
Factor that in and then get back to me about Labour borrowing.
Fvck Brecit, fvck Boris, fvck Corbyn.
This is your last chance to save the NHS.
Use it.
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posted on 15/11/19
No one willing to say who they're voting for using policy only?
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
So, if you don't want Corbyn, you automatically want these things:
You want schools to be underfunded and open part time
You want there to be too few Police
You want nurses to be underpaid
You want chidlren to be hungry
You want people dying on the streets
You want people failed on their health assessments on purpose
You want your own citizens to be deported after 50 years here
You want Grenfell
You want poor public services
Outstanding levels of debate here.
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No one has actually said you want those things if you don't vote Corbyn. They have said those are the things that happen under the Tories and if you vote for them you are complicit.
If you are going to try and join people on a high horse, at least put your foot in the stirrup first.
You'll need to learn to do that if you are going to join the Tories on their fox hunts.
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Go back and look at what was said.
It's quite clearly implied.
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So you made an assumption.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blue passports and SOV RUN TEE.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 12 seconds ago
Something needs doing about broadband though, we can only get superfast at ours, ultrafast still not available ffs it's 2019 we shouldn't be living in these conditions. Whoever can bring ultrafast to my postcode will get a vote from me. And that's coming from a big dial up fan.
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To be fair, there are a lot of areas where it isn't available and private corporations have no interest in building the infrastructure there are its not profitable for them.
Broadband is becoming a key infrastructure in this country and infrastructure that is key to the economy and its citizens should be publicly controlled.
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It should be free, like you say its becoming an essential part of life, companies are making billions off our complete addiction (while often necessary) to the Internet.
I don't think it ever will actually be completely free but if Labour can tax large providers more and get that money used to reduce cost, make some places free WiFi etc. It's a start.
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A start (possibly something that could already be done) would be to make very basic necessary speeds free for everybody, with increases depending on how fast you need from that point upwards.
With how many local branches of banks in towns, and other services that are geared towards needing the internet just to pay bills, bank, even paying council tax etc - these things can be done with limited internet speed and should be accessible for everybody whatever income you are on.
posted on 15/11/19
local branches of banks closing*
posted on 15/11/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
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Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
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Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
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There has been an increase in tax revenue following recent cuts to the corp tax rate.
Looking at probably the biggest contributing industry, financial services have already seen jobs lost with Brexit with more planned. Raising the corp tax rate by 10% would have an impact.
While I agree the personal tax increases Labour would introduce I don’t the corp tax ones.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Fair, would you then vote lib dem?
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I wouldn’t, no.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
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Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
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It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
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It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 minutes ago
No one willing to say who they're voting for using policy only?
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I'll be voting lib dem as they would cancel brexit. I wouldn't vote for the Tories given their stance on brexit and I wouldn't vote for Labour given the damage they would do to the economy
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
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Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
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Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
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No.
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Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
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Big claim that I haven’t seen any compelling evidence for.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
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Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
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And London.
And Liverpool
And Manchester....
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
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Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
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Many of these problems have arisen as a consequence of the financial crisis and the policies that followed.
If you compare it to football it's like the next round of TV money being way less than now, overnight. Its a fact that people would lose their jobs, cuts would have to be made, there would be suffering,
If you think these issues from the financial crisis are exclusively as a result of Tory policy then you are blinkered.....Labour had our borrowing at sky high levels in the good times....it was like being successful and well paid was not enough, we also had to max out our credit cards and sell off family assets cheaply because we wanted to spend more and more and more.
This is what many people fear because Labour have historically been poor at managing the economy.
The mess we were left with made the deep cuts necessary and while Labour would have borrowed more and cut less that would put us into a position where right now, as we move clear of austerity our debt levels & annual borrowing would be way higher and so much of what we were gaining from a better economy would be used in paying debt. But there was no magic answer, suffering was inevitable. Our spending and borrowing have been slashed but at least that means now that they can increase within a reasonable range (although Labours 5% of GDP is not reasonable IMO). If they were high already then we'd have nowhere to go with extra borrowing and investment.
To make this a choice of suffering under Tories and Happiness and Joy under labour is totally false. EVERYTHING needs to be paid for. Labour's spending simply kicks the 'suffering can' down the road to deal with later.
What if we hit recession in 2 or 3 years. Look at Germany, strongest Euro economy, just avoided it this year...What happens with our sky high borrowing under Labour then? Even greater suffering is the answer.
posted on 15/11/19
In my area it's Labour or Conservative, pretty close, any other vote is a wasted one tbh.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
The crux is the tories have ruined so many services in the UK and let the majority of the people down? Would anyone dispute this?
Now while I can see why many dislike JC, and some of his policies will never fly, labour has to be the lesser of the two evils here.
Can someone thinking of voting Tory give their reasons without mentioning Corbyn?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brexit is my big issue this time around, I don’t agree with labours idiotic policy on it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that more important to you than keeping the NHS and people not dying?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vote labour then because that is exactly what will happen under the Tories.
I mean it could be that all the health professionals are lying but I doubt it.
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Big claim that I haven’t seen any compelling evidence for.
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Are you serious?
Hunt literally wrote a book on it. They're doing it now. It's not up for debate.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's mental mate the way some people seem to think!
Of course Brexit is the reason why so many jobs will be lost, but you know freedom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is ironic that most of the people complaining about Corbyn and his economic policies, will quite happily vote for Brexit which is going to have a massive economic impact.
I have yet to see one person tell me a good reason to vote Tory that doesn't involve them talking about Corbyn. At least Labour have some policies to talk about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that’s made up opinion. Was the traditional labour voting areas that voted to leave, bar Scotland.
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And London.
And Liverpool
And Manchester....
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Wouldn’t have said London was a traditional labour area myself, even if it is now
posted on 15/11/19
Lets post other ridiculous Labpur policies;
Government cobtracts wont be awarded to companies that are registered abroad and avoid tax.
mental
posted on 15/11/19
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 45 seconds ago
Aye spending 80bn on Broadband will fix the above. Bailing out banks was a bad thing? As if that helped bankers and not everyone?
His plans for tax will see a lot more jobs leave the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why his tax plans will see businesses leave the UK? We currently have lower corporation tax than most major EU nations and the US.
Do you think the corporations only set up here because of low tax and it has nothing to do with infrastructure and the populace?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There has been an increase in tax revenue following recent cuts to the corp tax rate.
Looking at probably the biggest contributing industry, financial services have already seen jobs lost with Brexit with more planned. Raising the corp tax rate by 10% would have an impact.
While I agree the personal tax increases Labour would introduce I don’t the corp tax ones.
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They have not proposed to increase it by 10%. As far as I have seen they have proposed to increase it back to 2011 levels.
You also expect the cash value of corporation tax to increase each year as the economy grows. It is very myopic only to look at it in those terms (which is what the Tories want and what they try with the NHS when only talking monetary values).
The rate against GDP has dipped several times and it has decreased as a percentage of the overall government intake. The monetary rates also ignore the measures that have been put in place to avoid losing revenue overseas, which although they don't go far enough (look at Jacob Rees-Mogg's company) they have had some impact. Government reports have also stated that intake would have increased if the rate was higher.
In terms of Brexit, that is going to have a far bigger impact than any of Corbyn's policies. I don't want to leave the EU anyway.
posted on 15/11/19
A lot of the most deprived areas of the country voted leave.
Look at Sunderland, +60% voted brexit despite them having the largest the country's biggest car factory - Nissan.
There is no logic to who voted brexit and where
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Aye borrow money to give me that please.
Who cares about the kids, they can deal with the mess.
============
Or just tax people properly. Why is so hard to understand? Look at who donates to the Tory party, look at who owns the telegraph and where they live. Wake up!!
Either way if they can find £500bn to bail out their banking mates and spend umtpeen billions more on murder submarines they can afford to let their citizens starve.
Schools are barely open five days a week, kids are hungry, people are dying, the NHS is being sold off.
What's wrong with people that they can be okay with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Many of these problems have arisen as a consequence of the financial crisis and the policies that followed.
If you compare it to football it's like the next round of TV money being way less than now, overnight. Its a fact that people would lose their jobs, cuts would have to be made, there would be suffering,
If you think these issues from the financial crisis are exclusively as a result of Tory policy then you are blinkered.....Labour had our borrowing at sky high levels in the good times....it was like being successful and well paid was not enough, we also had to max out our credit cards and sell off family assets cheaply because we wanted to spend more and more and more.
This is what many people fear because Labour have historically been poor at managing the economy.
The mess we were left with made the deep cuts necessary and while Labour would have borrowed more and cut less that would put us into a position where right now, as we move clear of austerity our debt levels & annual borrowing would be way higher and so much of what we were gaining from a better economy would be used in paying debt. But there was no magic answer, suffering was inevitable. Our spending and borrowing have been slashed but at least that means now that they can increase within a reasonable range (although Labours 5% of GDP is not reasonable IMO). If they were high already then we'd have nowhere to go with extra borrowing and investment.
To make this a choice of suffering under Tories and Happiness and Joy under labour is totally false. EVERYTHING needs to be paid for. Labour's spending simply kicks the 'suffering can' down the road to deal with later.
What if we hit recession in 2 or 3 years. Look at Germany, strongest Euro economy, just avoided it this year...What happens with our sky high borrowing under Labour then? Even greater suffering is the answer.
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Brexit is predicted to cost our economy £700Billion A YEAR for the next 20 years.
Factor that in and then get back to me about Labour borrowing.
posted on 15/11/19
Fvck Brecit, fvck Boris, fvck Corbyn.
This is your last chance to save the NHS.
Use it.
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