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They should give each manager a single VAR call to use during a match and let the refs get back to reffing. Start paying the premier league refs £15,000 a week. It would lift the standard for sure.
VAR is even ruining soccer Saturday accumulators for me these days, with pauses and corrections. Fans aren't even able to celebrate goals these days due to the spectre of VAR
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This will mean every game has two VAR interventions as you can bet your bottom dollar managers will be using their allocation. This can also mean incorrect decisions due to no more VAR interventions being allowed. Not a good idea, for me.
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I'd settle for scrapping VAR.
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We would have lost today without VAR due to two incorrect decisions so I'm definitely against that.
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Over a season the best team should win the league and things generally even themselves out. Football is definitely losing something as a result of VAR.
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Couldn't disagree more with this cliche. This can cost a team a league title, or have them relegated, a manager a job etc. If you don't believe the conspiracy that referees are against your club and general referees can make mistakes on any give day, quality of referee is different for each game and referees are allocated different games as one referee can't referee every game, it is completely logical to believe that in any given season you can get a big net benefit or deficit. It is crazy to believe that it evens out for every team over the season. It just isn't possible, considering the variables.
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Liverpool, look to be the best team in the world just now. They are top of the league, won the CL last season, world club thingy the other week. I appreciate refs can influence things.
But ultimately when you have guys like VVD they are far more influential to the outcome of a match than the ref. Take him out the Liverpool team and City would be top of the league, irrespective of VAR/Refs.
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They've invested wisely and at key times to gain momentum and belief. Spurs, city now and Liverpool have had var decisions that varied from marginal but right to 'I'm not even sure that was offside'.
Liverpool still have a huge margin.
Var was always going to need some tuning but It should always be at the end of the season. I'm sure they will refine it and get the right balance. Scraping is a no for me. To lose a trophy over wrong decisions shouldn't just be 'part of the game' imo
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You won because of 2 incorrect decisions
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The offside rule should be changed so that the attacker is offside only if both feet are ahead of the last man. Would make for many more goals.
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They should give each manager a single VAR call to use during a match and let the refs get back to reffing. Start paying the premier league refs £15,000 a week. It would lift the standard for sure.
VAR is even ruining soccer Saturday accumulators for me these days, with pauses and corrections. Fans aren't even able to celebrate goals these days due to the spectre of VAR
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This will mean every game has two VAR interventions as you can bet your bottom dollar managers will be using their allocation. This can also mean incorrect decisions due to no more VAR interventions being allowed. Not a good idea, for me.
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I'd settle for scrapping VAR.
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We would have lost today without VAR due to two incorrect decisions so I'm definitely against that.
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Over a season the best team should win the league and things generally even themselves out. Football is definitely losing something as a result of VAR.
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Couldn't disagree more with this cliche. This can cost a team a league title, or have them relegated, a manager a job etc. If you don't believe the conspiracy that referees are against your club and general referees can make mistakes on any give day, quality of referee is different for each game and referees are allocated different games as one referee can't referee every game, it is completely logical to believe that in any given season you can get a big net benefit or deficit. It is crazy to believe that it evens out for every team over the season. It just isn't possible, considering the variables.
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Liverpool, look to be the best team in the world just now. They are top of the league, won the CL last season, world club thingy the other week. I appreciate refs can influence things.
But ultimately when you have guys like VVD they are far more influential to the outcome of a match than the ref. Take him out the Liverpool team and City would be top of the league, irrespective of VAR/Refs.
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Yeah I don't agree exactly in regards to VVD but I get what you mean. I agree that there are more important factors but these factors are football factors which you can influence. For things to be decided on incorrect decisions which you have no control over just isn't right. City won the league by one point last season. I can point to decisions that went against us which may have went for us and we win the league instead. So is it correct that the best team will always win despite incorrect decisions? Not for me.
NB. I actually believe last season was one of the season when it was very even for us in terms of decisions for an against. The previous season was ridiculous. But I only see all of Liverpool's games so I'm not stupid enough to believe this doesnt happen to other teams also. What i don't believe is it evens out over a season every season, one season may be even, one you may get a big net benefit and the next a big net deficit.
This can't be allowed to continue in the 21st century when every other sport in the world is modernising. It was only a matter of time that football joined the 21st century and despite the hiccups and grievances, it will be improved upon and in time everybody will accept it and we will have fewer mistakes and therefore a fairer game.
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Too many refs have too many agendas imo
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Bloody good job you're not one then
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
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The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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Which laws?
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The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
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VvD is not allowed to handle the ball though.
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comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
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VvD is not allowed to handle the ball though.
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And he didn't. And if he did, it was accidental, didn't directly assist or score a goal and therefore the laws were followed and VAR made the right calls. A fair outcome. Whether that annoys bitter fans is neither here nor there, it was brought in to get decisions correct, which it did today.
Erm, he did. And he played the ball to Lallana, creating a goal scoring opportunity.
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Erm, he did. And he played the ball to Lallana, creating a goal scoring opportunity.
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From the replay I saw it didn't look like he did but to bring this forward we'll assume he did. Was it intentional? No. Did it directly assist or score a goal? No. The laws were followed.
It is handball if
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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The laws of the universe disagree with yours.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is handball if
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
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It didn't create a goalscoring opportunity. Lallana did.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
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Incorrect. Hence the correct decision after VAR. Although from the replay I saw it didn't even hit his arm so kind of irrelevant.
Of course it did The opportunity doesnt come without the long ball by VvD. He has created the opportunity.
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posted 36 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
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Incorrect. Hence the correct decision after VAR. Although from the replay I saw it didn't even hit his arm so kind of irrelevant.
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Wow, even when your team are strolling to a league title you have to lie and delude yourself.
It is an offence if a player:
deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
scores in the opponents’ goal
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
So if he did handball it, which if these applies?
The bit I pasted. He created a goal scoring opportunity
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 seconds ago
The bit I pasted. He created a goal scoring opportunity
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But he didn't create a goalscoring opportunity. He didn't even create an opportunity where Lallana could have shot, hence he could only get his should to the ball to actually create a goalscoring opportunity for Mane, which he scored from, which VAR then confirmed, despite the referee making the mistake.
Unlucky
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comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 20 seconds ago
They should give each manager a single VAR call to use during a match and let the refs get back to reffing. Start paying the premier league refs £15,000 a week. It would lift the standard for sure.
VAR is even ruining soccer Saturday accumulators for me these days, with pauses and corrections. Fans aren't even able to celebrate goals these days due to the spectre of VAR
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This will mean every game has two VAR interventions as you can bet your bottom dollar managers will be using their allocation. This can also mean incorrect decisions due to no more VAR interventions being allowed. Not a good idea, for me.
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I'd settle for scrapping VAR.
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We would have lost today without VAR due to two incorrect decisions so I'm definitely against that.
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Over a season the best team should win the league and things generally even themselves out. Football is definitely losing something as a result of VAR.
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Couldn't disagree more with this cliche. This can cost a team a league title, or have them relegated, a manager a job etc. If you don't believe the conspiracy that referees are against your club and general referees can make mistakes on any give day, quality of referee is different for each game and referees are allocated different games as one referee can't referee every game, it is completely logical to believe that in any given season you can get a big net benefit or deficit. It is crazy to believe that it evens out for every team over the season. It just isn't possible, considering the variables.
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Liverpool, look to be the best team in the world just now. They are top of the league, won the CL last season, world club thingy the other week. I appreciate refs can influence things.
But ultimately when you have guys like VVD they are far more influential to the outcome of a match than the ref. Take him out the Liverpool team and City would be top of the league, irrespective of VAR/Refs.
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They've invested wisely and at key times to gain momentum and belief. Spurs, city now and Liverpool have had var decisions that varied from marginal but right to 'I'm not even sure that was offside'.
Liverpool still have a huge margin.
Var was always going to need some tuning but It should always be at the end of the season. I'm sure they will refine it and get the right balance. Scraping is a no for me. To lose a trophy over wrong decisions shouldn't just be 'part of the game' imo
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 minutes ago
You won because of 2 incorrect decisions
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posted on 29/12/19
The offside rule should be changed so that the attacker is offside only if both feet are ahead of the last man. Would make for many more goals.
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posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 20 seconds ago
They should give each manager a single VAR call to use during a match and let the refs get back to reffing. Start paying the premier league refs £15,000 a week. It would lift the standard for sure.
VAR is even ruining soccer Saturday accumulators for me these days, with pauses and corrections. Fans aren't even able to celebrate goals these days due to the spectre of VAR
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This will mean every game has two VAR interventions as you can bet your bottom dollar managers will be using their allocation. This can also mean incorrect decisions due to no more VAR interventions being allowed. Not a good idea, for me.
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I'd settle for scrapping VAR.
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We would have lost today without VAR due to two incorrect decisions so I'm definitely against that.
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Over a season the best team should win the league and things generally even themselves out. Football is definitely losing something as a result of VAR.
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Couldn't disagree more with this cliche. This can cost a team a league title, or have them relegated, a manager a job etc. If you don't believe the conspiracy that referees are against your club and general referees can make mistakes on any give day, quality of referee is different for each game and referees are allocated different games as one referee can't referee every game, it is completely logical to believe that in any given season you can get a big net benefit or deficit. It is crazy to believe that it evens out for every team over the season. It just isn't possible, considering the variables.
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Liverpool, look to be the best team in the world just now. They are top of the league, won the CL last season, world club thingy the other week. I appreciate refs can influence things.
But ultimately when you have guys like VVD they are far more influential to the outcome of a match than the ref. Take him out the Liverpool team and City would be top of the league, irrespective of VAR/Refs.
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Yeah I don't agree exactly in regards to VVD but I get what you mean. I agree that there are more important factors but these factors are football factors which you can influence. For things to be decided on incorrect decisions which you have no control over just isn't right. City won the league by one point last season. I can point to decisions that went against us which may have went for us and we win the league instead. So is it correct that the best team will always win despite incorrect decisions? Not for me.
NB. I actually believe last season was one of the season when it was very even for us in terms of decisions for an against. The previous season was ridiculous. But I only see all of Liverpool's games so I'm not stupid enough to believe this doesnt happen to other teams also. What i don't believe is it evens out over a season every season, one season may be even, one you may get a big net benefit and the next a big net deficit.
This can't be allowed to continue in the 21st century when every other sport in the world is modernising. It was only a matter of time that football joined the 21st century and despite the hiccups and grievances, it will be improved upon and in time everybody will accept it and we will have fewer mistakes and therefore a fairer game.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 28 minutes ago
Too many refs have too many agendas imo
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Bloody good job you're not one then
posted on 29/12/19
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
posted on 29/12/19
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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Which laws?
posted on 29/12/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
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VvD is not allowed to handle the ball though.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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No they don't. You're allowed to score with your shoulder and you're not allowed to be offside.
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VvD is not allowed to handle the ball though.
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And he didn't. And if he did, it was accidental, didn't directly assist or score a goal and therefore the laws were followed and VAR made the right calls. A fair outcome. Whether that annoys bitter fans is neither here nor there, it was brought in to get decisions correct, which it did today.
posted on 29/12/19
Erm, he did. And he played the ball to Lallana, creating a goal scoring opportunity.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 37 seconds ago
Erm, he did. And he played the ball to Lallana, creating a goal scoring opportunity.
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From the replay I saw it didn't look like he did but to bring this forward we'll assume he did. Was it intentional? No. Did it directly assist or score a goal? No. The laws were followed.
posted on 29/12/19
It is handball if
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
posted on 29/12/19
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
The abridged version of todays game reads, goal rightfully given, goal rightfully ruled out.
Anything else being said, is just the sound of embittered fans losing their minds. 🙂
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The laws of the game disagree with your opinion.
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The laws of the universe disagree with yours.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is handball if
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
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It didn't create a goalscoring opportunity. Lallana did.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
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Incorrect. Hence the correct decision after VAR. Although from the replay I saw it didn't even hit his arm so kind of irrelevant.
posted on 29/12/19
Of course it did The opportunity doesnt come without the long ball by VvD. He has created the opportunity.
posted on 29/12/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesnt have to be intentional nor "directly assist". It hit his hand and he created s goal scoring opportunity. It is in law 12
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Incorrect. Hence the correct decision after VAR. Although from the replay I saw it didn't even hit his arm so kind of irrelevant.
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Wow, even when your team are strolling to a league title you have to lie and delude yourself.
posted on 29/12/19
It is an offence if a player:
deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
scores in the opponents’ goal
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
posted on 29/12/19
Exactly, now you get it
posted on 29/12/19
So if he did handball it, which if these applies?
posted on 29/12/19
The bit I pasted. He created a goal scoring opportunity
posted on 29/12/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 seconds ago
The bit I pasted. He created a goal scoring opportunity
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But he didn't create a goalscoring opportunity. He didn't even create an opportunity where Lallana could have shot, hence he could only get his should to the ball to actually create a goalscoring opportunity for Mane, which he scored from, which VAR then confirmed, despite the referee making the mistake.
Unlucky
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