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Klopp or Pep?

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posted on 2/2/20

Quite different managers
Pep can be quite frustrating stubbornly sticking to his principles which plays into the oppositions hands at times
Only negative on Klopp for me is he doesn’t try and win the domestic cups
I think Klopp is prepared to build a legacy at Liverpool whereas Pep likes to move around

posted on 2/2/20

Klopp is well overrated, he had a really good Dortmund side, and he nearly took them to relegation.

He is basically buying the title like Pep does at City. Neither would be much without all the cash at their disposal. Neil Warnock all day long for me.

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 21 minutes ago
Both great managers but don't see how you can say Pep is better when every club he's managed has already been the best in that league, he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary, he won a lot with a messi barca, won a german league with the best team in it by far yet failed to win the CL, and has won the PL with the richest team but still failed to win the CL.

Klopp won the CL last season with Pool ffs, and look at them this season. And that's without his dortmund achievements.
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posted on 2/2/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 40 minutes ago
They are both chequebook managers, so neither really.
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Tosspot

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
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Personally think this old adage has kinda been undermined by the performance of high profile managers like Bielsa and Benitez in recent years
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Haven't noticed Bielsa get Leeds promoted yet

posted on 2/2/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
If I had to choose one for my team it would be Klopp.
If I was the owner of PSG, probably Pep
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This

Pep football at it's best will be better than klopp football, but klopp does more with less

posted on 2/2/20

Claiming Coutinho was your best player is laughable.

posted on 2/2/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
Klopp is well overrated, he had a really good Dortmund side, and he nearly took them to relegation.

He is basically buying the title like Pep does at City. Neither would be much without all the cash at their disposal. Neil Warnock all day long for me.
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Still a tosspot...fackin Neil Warnock my arrse

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
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Personally think this old adage has kinda been undermined by the performance of high profile managers like Bielsa and Benitez in recent years
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Haven't noticed Bielsa get Leeds promoted yet
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But he's not doing a bad job is he

posted on 2/2/20

We were fighting for 7th and 8th before Klopp took over with a lot of average players. 2013/2014 was an exception with Suarez in form.

He got rid of the mid table back four and goalkeeper we had.

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally think this old adage has kinda been undermined by the performance of high profile managers like Bielsa and Benitez in recent years
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven't noticed Bielsa get Leeds promoted yet
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But he's not doing a bad job is he
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Let's see if he finishes the job off Leeds have bottled it for 20 years

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally think this old adage has kinda been undermined by the performance of high profile managers like Bielsa and Benitez in recent years
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven't noticed Bielsa get Leeds promoted yet
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But he's not doing a bad job is he
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Let's see if he finishes the job off Leeds have bottled it for 20 years
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What bearing does that have on Bielsa's ability to manage in the Championship?

posted on 2/2/20

Leeds bigger bottlers than Spurs and that’s saying something.

posted on 2/2/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
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What I would say, if you did put Klopp and Pep in comparable teams in say the championship, with the same budget, I beleive Klopp would out perform Pep.
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Me too. I don't see how Klopp wouldn't outperform Pep in any given situation, all things being equal. Klopp's just better
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Steady on, Arab will start baring his teeth after reading that

posted on 2/2/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
People seem to confusing ability, with trophies.
Pretty sure if Klopp has left Mainz and joined Barca, their trophy count would be little different to what Pep managed.
Klopp may never match Pep in terms of trophies won, but in terms of managerial ability, theres no doubt hes as good, and properly better than Pep.
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There’s a lot of doubt.
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Really? Have you been listening to Pep? Nah, Klopp is vastly superior imo. Whilst Pep is still a top class manager
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Nobody was saying Klopp was vastly superior for the last three years, but I suppose football fans are very reactionary.

posted on 2/2/20

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
PEP has had it had it handed to him on a plate since day one
I'd like to see these managers manager championship side for a season and see if they can get into the premiership
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally think this old adage has kinda been undermined by the performance of high profile managers like Bielsa and Benitez in recent years
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven't noticed Bielsa get Leeds promoted yet
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But he's not doing a bad job is he
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Let's see if he finishes the job off Leeds have bottled it for 20 years
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What bearing does that have on Bielsa's ability to manage in the Championship?
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Like I say leeds have not been promoted yet... If he gets them up fair play to him... He'll have broken a broken a 20-year spell

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 2/2/20

Klopp has done an amazing job at both Liverpool and Dortmund.

Liverpool have had the fortune of Barca and Madrid not being great and also not poaching their players like we had with Ronaldo for example. But he's built a ruthlessly efficient side.

Pep build the greatest team in history imo at the moment barca. He doesn't really get the credit he deserves for that, and he's been compared to that high since.

They're both world class managers, two of the best in their generation. I think Peps style of management, like Jose, isn't sustainable.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 2/2/20

We have to respect the fact that without Pep raising the standards with City to get to 100 points, Klopp's Liverpool would not have advanced to the sort of form they're in.

posted on 2/2/20

Be interesting to see how Liverpool evolve from here
Dortmund fell off a cliff after they won the title under Klopp

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 2/2/20

comment by The Mane Man - WORLD CHAMPIONS-"Sadio, I’ll get him back don’t worry.” (U19731)
posted 18 minutes ago
We were fighting for 7th and 8th before Klopp took over with a lot of average players. 2013/2014 was an exception with Suarez in form.

He got rid of the mid table back four and goalkeeper we had.
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He spent a lot of money but he did so wisely. Wish we could say the same.

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posted on 2/2/20

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man - WORLD CHAMPIONS-"Sadio, I’ll get him back don’t worry.” (U19731)
posted 18 minutes ago
We were fighting for 7th and 8th before Klopp took over with a lot of average players. 2013/2014 was an exception with Suarez in form.

He got rid of the mid table back four and goalkeeper we had.
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He spent a lot of money but he did so wisely. Wish we could say the same.
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He lost a lot of valuable assets to get that money, an excuse Utd don't have to fall back on.
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Utd lost a talented pianist

posted on 2/2/20

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posted on 2/2/20

two top managers.
it's just klopp is a lot topper.

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