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posted on 3/2/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
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Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?

posted on 3/2/20

comment by The Mane Man - WORLD CHAMPIONS-"Sadio, I’ll get him back don’t worry.” (U19731)
posted 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
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Your midfield would not all get into our team. They'd get into our squad. The reason is the difference in our playing style. Our style is more direct and yours is more about control and finding the right moment for the final pass.
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Yes I completely agree.

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
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?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.

posted on 3/2/20

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
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Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
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Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
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Depends on what's convenient and can change from minute to minute.

We used to be told how inferior our players were. Hoping to challenge world class City with the likes of Hendo and Wij. Now we are told it was never that bad. As I said, depends on convenience.

posted on 3/2/20

Not much to pick between the keepers, each set of fans probably wouldn’t swap one for the other.

Three of Liverpool’s back four would walk into City’s 11

Further up you’re looking at a combination of both sides. I do think we are stronger in CM, but you are obviously stronger elsewhere.

Nothing to do with convenience, I think a lot of City fans would more or less agree

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
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Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Seriously? That doesn't answer that question either way. You've got players that suit the way you play, we've got players that suit the way we do. We've both got some that are interchangeable. You've got more strength in depth in certain positions, we've got more in others. We've got first team players that wouldn't get into your team either. Doesn't mean either of us would want to change them though.

Sorry, this is going exactly like I feared it would so let's just leave it there. I'm not entirely sure how much more praise you want to feel validated, particularly given you're trying, albeit rather stupidly, to twist my words when I'm praising your team and coach anyway..

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends on what's convenient and can change from minute to minute.

We used to be told how inferior our players were. Hoping to challenge world class City with the likes of Hendo and Wij. Now we are told it was never that bad. As I said, depends on convenience.
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Had you not added world class players to play with those, then you wouldn't have. Hence why you had some of the players and didn't compete.

posted on 3/2/20

You’re the one that said it was an inferior squad and then said those players would definitely get in our team btw, so it’s probably worth checking your own contradictions before asking it of others...

posted on 3/2/20

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends on what's convenient and can change from minute to minute.

We used to be told how inferior our players were. Hoping to challenge world class City with the likes of Hendo and Wij. Now we are told it was never that bad. As I said, depends on convenience.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had you not added world class players to play with those, then you wouldn't have. Hence why you had some of the players and didn't compete.
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No we were told a team containing those players cannot challenge at the top especially with City and Pep in England.

posted on 3/2/20

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 43 minutes ago
You’re the one that said it was an inferior squad and then said those players would definitely get in our team btw, so it’s probably worth checking your own contradictions before asking it of others...
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But Grated has contradicted himself, no? That much is clear.

posted on 3/2/20

For Liverpool to match City last season and blow them away this season is a near miracle. City have spent billions in the last decade and Pep himself has spent over half a billion, no?

Liverpool's squad is worth a fraction of City's. To see City fans pushing that the squads are on near level terms is testament to the brilliance of Klopp and his team. What a gap to make up.

Robbo cost 8m and was relatively unknown at Hull. Becomes world class under Klopp. City's left backs around 70-80m and both rated ridiculously higher than Robbo when joining City. Klopp has improved Robbo to surpass two of City's world class LB signings. What have they been doing to be overtaken like this?

Its like if you can't afford a Lamborghini like your neighbour, then buy a Prius and panel beat it into a Lambo.

TAA an academy product moulded by Klopp. Now world class and would start for City. Same goes for all the other players except VVD. All inferior to their compatriots at City but Klopp has made them churn out world class performances at a level not quite seen before in this league and beyond. An absolutely spectacular achievement and a mark of greatness.

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 43 minutes ago
You’re the one that said it was an inferior squad and then said those players would definitely get in our team btw, so it’s probably worth checking your own contradictions before asking it of others...
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But Grated has contradicted himself, no? That much is clear.
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Where?

posted on 3/2/20

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posted on 3/2/20

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 43 minutes ago
You’re the one that said it was an inferior squad and then said those players would definitely get in our team btw, so it’s probably worth checking your own contradictions before asking it of others...
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But Grated has contradicted himself, no? That much is clear.
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Where?
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Sorry, wasn't you

posted on 3/2/20

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
At least that Laporte cope excuse can fack off now too.
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Yeah, nice to see that being proven as more excuses.

posted on 3/2/20

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 4 minutes ago
At least that Laporte cope excuse can fack off now too.
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Can it? He’s played one game and we won and kept a clean sheet!

posted on 3/2/20

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posted on 3/2/20

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 4 minutes ago
At least that Laporte cope excuse can fack off now too.
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Can it? He’s played one game and we won and kept a clean sheet!
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My bad I thought Pep would play his best defender after returning overcoming his injury. I guess Pep is just too smart to win.
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Nice attempt at deflecting away from the hole you’ve dug yourself

posted on 3/2/20

comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends on what's convenient and can change from minute to minute.

We used to be told how inferior our players were. Hoping to challenge world class City with the likes of Hendo and Wij. Now we are told it was never that bad. As I said, depends on convenience.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had you not added world class players to play with those, then you wouldn't have. Hence why you had some of the players and didn't compete.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we were told a team containing those players cannot challenge at the top especially with City and Pep in England.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Right and who was this we? As I’ve never said that, and given the conversation I was having was about my opinion, I’m not sure on the relevance of it.

If you’re making a wider point that a lot of football fans are myopic, partisan, hypocritical and stupid then yes I agree

posted on 3/2/20

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 41 minutes ago
They should never have got rid of Kompany without bringing in another natural leader.
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We didn’t get rid of, but yes I agree with the point. Leaders like Kompany aren’t that easy to find though, he wasn’t one himself when we first bought him, he developed into it.

I don’t see anyone in our current squad that could take on the mantle though.

posted on 4/2/20

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 15 hours, 31 minutes ago
I don’t think you do have an inferior set of players. That aside though, the reason we have dropped off isn’t down to tactics. The system that Guardiola has had us playing still creates more chances (and concedes less) than any other team, our issue is the critical moments in both boxes.

Given that me thinking he’s the best tactical coach in the world is a sentiment shared by his peers (including your own coach) and has had an influence on football in general, it’s hardly a stretch to say he’s the best tactically.

I haven’t said Klopp is getting more out of his players chiefly because of motivation, I just said I thought he is better at that aspect than Guardiola is in general. I’ll reiterate again, I think he is excellent across the board

What do you want me to say? That Klopp is the best at every single aspect of management?
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Quality response.
red in the head struggling to understand something so simple

posted on 4/2/20

A combined XI for me would look something like

Alisson
TAA VVD Laporte Robertson
Fabinho
De Bruyne B. Silva
Salah Aguero Sterling

Really tough between Sterling & Mane

posted on 4/2/20

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 9 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
That’s the money our club spent, as in Begiristain. If you’re saying we didn’t spend all of that money well in the summer and didn’t plug the right gaps, then I entirely agree.

No, your midfield would not all get into our team. They’d get into our squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
?
Robertson, Firmino, Trent, Gomez, wijnaldum and Hendo
I named 3 defenders 2 midfielders and 1 attacker.

So you say those players wouldn’t get into your team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said, they’d get into our squad. Defenders, Gomez would go straight into the team. As would Robertson if we were playing with out and out full backs, which we rarely do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah they'd go into the squad, bar two..

Yet they are our first team...

So, which is it?
does Klopp have an inferior squad compared to pep or not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends on what's convenient and can change from minute to minute.

We used to be told how inferior our players were. Hoping to challenge world class City with the likes of Hendo and Wij. Now we are told it was never that bad. As I said, depends on convenience.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had you not added world class players to play with those, then you wouldn't have. Hence why you had some of the players and didn't compete.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we were told a team containing those players cannot challenge at the top especially with City and Pep in England.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Right and who was this we? As I’ve never said that, and given the conversation I was having was about my opinion, I’m not sure on the relevance of it.

If you’re making a wider point that a lot of football fans are myopic, partisan, hypocritical and stupid then yes I agree
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"We" refers to the people I was talking about in the post you replied to. Whether you belong in that group is something you will know for yourself. If I meant to talk about you I would have mentioned you directly. Was only explaining the same thing you talk about in your second paragraph here. I've never seen it coming from you tbh but your fellow City fans are full of it IMO.

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