comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
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There is probably somewhere between 0 and 0.000000001% of a chance that UEFA would suspend the CL and EL for a season whilst the domestic leagues carry on as normal. And I still think I'm being generous with that figure .
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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And this argument should hold up in a court of law if it ever came down to it.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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In that case we cannot revert to last seasons standings because teams like Spurs do not deserve to be in the CL as they actually haven't achieved that on the pitch. Would you be happy being handed a CL place for doing nothing?
Fact is a team like Leicester deserve it and have earned a CL place more than Spurs so whereas no option can be entirely fair, it's best to reward those who have worked hard and earned something than to take it away from them to give to a team that has neither earned nor deserves it.
18/19 season was to determine European qualification for the 19/20 European season, not the 20/21 European season.
You cannot use results for the 18/19 season to decide European qualification for the 20/21 season. That's ridiculous.
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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In that case we cannot revert to last seasons standings because teams like Spurs do not deserve to be in the CL as they actually haven't achieved that on the pitch. Would you be happy being handed a CL place for doing nothing?
Fact is a team like Leicester deserve it and have earned a CL place more than Spurs so whereas no option can be entirely fair, it's best to reward those who have worked hard and earned something than to take it away from them to give to a team that has neither earned nor deserves it.
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You can not take this seasons current positions as final.
When every Prem team kicked off in August 19 they did so on the basis of 38 games being played (more in lower divisions). If those games aren't completed then nothing stands surely thats only fair and is why I've always maintained it either gets finished or cancelled.
You can not take this seasons current positions as final.
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My point is, assuming this is true, then by that same logic reverting to last season is even more ridiculous, no?
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deserves anything until its mathematically possible.
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
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There is probably somewhere between 0 and 0.000000001% of a chance that UEFA would suspend the CL and EL for a season whilst the domestic leagues carry on as normal. And I still think I'm being generous with that figure .
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I said a while back, even before the Coronvirus really got this bad, that there would be no more football in 2020. And I stick by what I said. So there will be no domestic football either.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deserves anything until its mathematically possible.
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Not sure why a lot of fans don`t quite get that.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deservdes anything until its mathematically possible.
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Great post and exactly why I'm also vehemently opposed to promoting or relegating anyone based on their current standing.
Yeah no team deserves anything at present, even Liverpool, despite them being 99.9% certain of winning the league.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
Why is it mostly Spurs fans pushing for the league to be voided?
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
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Not going to happen mate, they either finish it properly, or not at all. There will be no mini tournament.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 seconds ago
Why is it mostly Spurs fans pushing for the league to be voided?
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If you read the majority, we aren't "pushing" for it, just merely mentioning its possible. Just as Liverpool fans suggest it isn't. With 90% of us there is no agenda but you guys take it personally.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
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Crazy to think they will completely change the structure but yes I agree it's possible. Which would put a Man City
firm favourites in my opinion given the depth of their squad and the short period between games.
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season
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By this logic, then who deserves to be in the CL more than Leicester?
Spurs? They haven't "finished there at the end of the season", have they? If that's the qualification then Spurs and teams in a similar position absolutely cannot be seen in the CL.
If accept your argument that they don't deserve it, then who does? Because any other team you can name deserves it even less.
So no one deserves it, but Leicester deserve it more than anyone else.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
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Changing the rules of a tournament halfway through would carry zero credence. Like saying a Test Match that had not a ball bowled for four days on the 5th day could be turned into a 20/20 game just to get a result.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
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Changing the rules of a tournament halfway through would carry zero credence. Like saying a Test Match that had not a ball bowled for four days on the 5th day could be turned into a 20/20 game just to get a result.
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Yeah it's not the best idea, even as a means to an end. Would be far more palatable solution to just sack it off amd split the total prize fund remaining equally amongst those who haven't been eliminated.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 second ago
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season
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By this logic, then who deserves to be in the CL more than Leicester?
Spurs? They haven't "finished there at the end of the season", have they? If that's the qualification then Spurs and teams in a similar position absolutely cannot be seen in the CL.
If accept your argument that they don't deserve it, then who does? Because any other team you can name deserves it even less.
So no one deserves it, but Leicester deserve it more than anyone else.
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Nobody deserves anything until 38 games are played. At the moment there are lots of games to play, and lots can happen over 9/10 games.
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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
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There is probably somewhere between 0 and 0.000000001% of a chance that UEFA would suspend the CL and EL for a season whilst the domestic leagues carry on as normal. And I still think I'm being generous with that figure .
posted on 20/4/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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And this argument should hold up in a court of law if it ever came down to it.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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In that case we cannot revert to last seasons standings because teams like Spurs do not deserve to be in the CL as they actually haven't achieved that on the pitch. Would you be happy being handed a CL place for doing nothing?
Fact is a team like Leicester deserve it and have earned a CL place more than Spurs so whereas no option can be entirely fair, it's best to reward those who have worked hard and earned something than to take it away from them to give to a team that has neither earned nor deserves it.
posted on 20/4/20
18/19 season was to determine European qualification for the 19/20 European season, not the 20/21 European season.
You cannot use results for the 18/19 season to decide European qualification for the 20/21 season. That's ridiculous.
posted on 20/4/20
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 15 hours, 36 minutes ago
The only thing that would strip the premier league of credibility would be not finishing the current season.
Liverpool deserve the title.
Leicester deserve CL.
Chelsea, United, Wolves and Sheffield deserve a shot at CL
But most of all, given that it’s probably the most competitive professional league in Europe, teams at the top of the Championship deserve their chance to escape it this year without having to replay an entire season.
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Nobody deserves anything until they actually win whatever they are after. No teams deserve a thing with 9 or 10 games (over a quarter of the season) still to be played.
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In that case we cannot revert to last seasons standings because teams like Spurs do not deserve to be in the CL as they actually haven't achieved that on the pitch. Would you be happy being handed a CL place for doing nothing?
Fact is a team like Leicester deserve it and have earned a CL place more than Spurs so whereas no option can be entirely fair, it's best to reward those who have worked hard and earned something than to take it away from them to give to a team that has neither earned nor deserves it.
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You can not take this seasons current positions as final.
When every Prem team kicked off in August 19 they did so on the basis of 38 games being played (more in lower divisions). If those games aren't completed then nothing stands surely thats only fair and is why I've always maintained it either gets finished or cancelled.
posted on 20/4/20
You can not take this seasons current positions as final.
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My point is, assuming this is true, then by that same logic reverting to last season is even more ridiculous, no?
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deserves anything until its mathematically possible.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
Like I said, all you peops thinking the season will be voided will be well disappointed
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From what I have read, Billy has said this will happen. Then a few of us are saying it's a possibility, along with other options.
You then keep replying saying it won't happen and that we are all wrong in saying it will, even though most of us are only saying it's a possibility.
The circle goes on.
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yep
what I don't get is Uefa, the FA, and PL have said the season will be finished but some folk won't accept it
Nothing to do with agenda's though
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Well, they have to be seen to be doing all they can to finish the season, they can not be seen to be canceling the season prematurely can they.
Every chance will be given to complete the fixtures, the money men will be demanding this, even though the integrity of the entire season has been compromised and can not be completed 100% fairly.
Eventually they will run out of time, everybody knows what the most sensible course of action to take is, but fans of clubs with something to lose are just desperately trying to justify ignoring this.
I just hope the money men are not allowed to compromise next season also, as the integrity of the new season should not be affected for the sake of an already stained and compromised old one.
You can not change the rules of any competition half way through and retain any integrity or meaning.
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You talk about integrity and fairness, well how is it fair that clubs like Sheffield United etc who are having a fantastic season, lose out on a CL place to Spurs who have been horrendous this season? I’m a Spurs supporter and as passionate as anyone, but I would feel it’s completely harsh if the season is void and last seasons positions count, meaning Spurs get a CL place and teams like Leicester / Sheff U don’t because the season was void. You seem to perceive “fairness” with whatever suits you’re agenda.
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Nothing has been decided yet, nobody has achieved anything. I am not saying we should let last seasons positions count, I have said all along that there should be no European competitions next season because qualification can not be decided fairly. Also, you can not promote or relegate teams 100% fairly in these circumstances, what with all the endless variables already listed on here. There is no fair way of completing the season and deciding league placings, European qualification etc. By far the fairest and safest option, which causes the least detriment and headaches all round, is to cancel the remainder of the season, have a clean break and start a new unblemished season (with no CL or EL) in September.
This is not about agendas, but the application of common sense, though I expect you will come back and argue the opposite as it fits in with your agenda.
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There is probably somewhere between 0 and 0.000000001% of a chance that UEFA would suspend the CL and EL for a season whilst the domestic leagues carry on as normal. And I still think I'm being generous with that figure .
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I said a while back, even before the Coronvirus really got this bad, that there would be no more football in 2020. And I stick by what I said. So there will be no domestic football either.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deserves anything until its mathematically possible.
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Not sure why a lot of fans don`t quite get that.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
The fairest thing would be for the season to resume whenever it is safe for everything to return to complete normality, and fans are allowed back in the stadiums as normal.
That is unlikely to happen, so the next fairest thing is to complete the season behind closed doors, possibly shortening competitions if necessary. At least that way the players are still responsible for their own achievements.
If that can't happen, the next fairest thing is to end the season as it stands, 75% of the way through so that teams get what they deserve for their season to date.
Voiding the season would be the least fair thing to do.
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I agree with this on most part although I do feel that some of the "unfair" comments around playing behind closed doors are not highlighted enough.
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season. Loads saying Spurs don't deserve it, which I agree that currently they don't based on league position, but we equally could go on to win the remaining games and then "deserve" CL football. No one deservdes anything until its mathematically possible.
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Great post and exactly why I'm also vehemently opposed to promoting or relegating anyone based on their current standing.
posted on 20/4/20
Yeah no team deserves anything at present, even Liverpool, despite them being 99.9% certain of winning the league.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
posted on 20/4/20
Why is it mostly Spurs fans pushing for the league to be voided?
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
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Not going to happen mate, they either finish it properly, or not at all. There will be no mini tournament.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 seconds ago
Why is it mostly Spurs fans pushing for the league to be voided?
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If you read the majority, we aren't "pushing" for it, just merely mentioning its possible. Just as Liverpool fans suggest it isn't. With 90% of us there is no agenda but you guys take it personally.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 39 minutes ago
It will be behind closed doors and the season will finish, end of story. No Liverpool hating agendas, the season must and will end. It has far to much money and legal issues riding on it. If it gets void, you honestly think the likes of Leeds etc are going to take it lightly ? So, this is not just a Liverpool thing. The season will end. Anyone wishful thinking that Liverpool are going to be denied a title and Spurs magically given last seasons CL place are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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You say there is too much money riding on finishing this season not to complete it but what about the amount of money at stake if a whole season is lost?
If football can't be played until late summer then there is a no way the whole 20/21 season will be cancelled in order to get a quarter of this season done.
Its got naff all to do with whether you support Liverpool, Spurs or Swindon its simply that 1 is greater than 0.25. Lower divisional clubs are struggling enough without losing all of next seasons revenue.
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If football can restart in late summer then this season will definitely get finished. They're looking at playing the CL final at the end of August.
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They haven`t got hope in hell of playing the CL Final in August. That will be just four months away. They have not even got to the QF stages yet, and no way will they be flying players around Europe in the next few months. It is pure fantasy to say that the European Competitions will be finished, when so many are still dying in most of the countries still involved in the European Competitions.
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A lot can change in four months. They've talked about turning it into a mini tournament to finish it off, may only take a couple of weeks.
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Crazy to think they will completely change the structure but yes I agree it's possible. Which would put a Man City
firm favourites in my opinion given the depth of their squad and the short period between games.
posted on 20/4/20
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
posted on 20/4/20
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season
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By this logic, then who deserves to be in the CL more than Leicester?
Spurs? They haven't "finished there at the end of the season", have they? If that's the qualification then Spurs and teams in a similar position absolutely cannot be seen in the CL.
If accept your argument that they don't deserve it, then who does? Because any other team you can name deserves it even less.
So no one deserves it, but Leicester deserve it more than anyone else.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
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Changing the rules of a tournament halfway through would carry zero credence. Like saying a Test Match that had not a ball bowled for four days on the 5th day could be turned into a 20/20 game just to get a result.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
Changing the structure is still a better option than voiding it though.
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Changing the rules of a tournament halfway through would carry zero credence. Like saying a Test Match that had not a ball bowled for four days on the 5th day could be turned into a 20/20 game just to get a result.
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Yeah it's not the best idea, even as a means to an end. Would be far more palatable solution to just sack it off amd split the total prize fund remaining equally amongst those who haven't been eliminated.
posted on 20/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 second ago
On another point about "deserved", some are saying Leicester, Sheffield United etc deserve CL. Surely most normal people will understand tbat it's only "deserved" if they finish there at the end of the season
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By this logic, then who deserves to be in the CL more than Leicester?
Spurs? They haven't "finished there at the end of the season", have they? If that's the qualification then Spurs and teams in a similar position absolutely cannot be seen in the CL.
If accept your argument that they don't deserve it, then who does? Because any other team you can name deserves it even less.
So no one deserves it, but Leicester deserve it more than anyone else.
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Nobody deserves anything until 38 games are played. At the moment there are lots of games to play, and lots can happen over 9/10 games.
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