comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 23 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
I honestly have no idea what will happen, however, I am absolutely convinced that the country will not go back to normal for quite some time. As a result, I think there is a strong chance the season will not end. I think there are arguments on all sides that are worthy.
Its a mess.
But then watching GMB this morning is making me realise that the situation is at lot worse than we think. There are reports to say that if care home deaths were in the figures that we would have the 2nd highest amount of deaths in the world. Some hospitals sending civod patients back to care homes to die, perhaps to avoid a statistic. This really does put the football side of things into perspective. We need football again but it cannot come before the real priorities in this.
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Yeh I am quite astonished that some supporters just don`t get how serious this Coronavirus is. Talking about resuming football in June is such a total nonsense.
I have always been of the belief that football will not resume until early 2021 at the earliest. The way it is all going though, I think next season will be wiped out as well. And probably won`t be seeing any football or any other sport until late 2021 or until a vaccine is found.
The authorities are just pushing the can down the road, they know football will not resume anytime soon, but are just trying to keep supporters onside. They will however have to make a major decision sometime in the near future, just to call it a day on this season.
Football will take a massive hit like all other businesses. And it certainly will not be the same when we emerge from this pandemic.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 5 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Wait, this was just 6 hours ago
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11854/11976619/serie-a-teams-agree-season-should-be-completed
So within the last 6 hours this decision has been directly reversed?
What the fack?
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No. Has not been reversed.
Serie A are meeting with the government tomorrow too work on a plan 2 get started again.
WHO have no authority and can only advise and to 'advise' all sport to stop 4 a year is ridiculus.
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So the talk that was on this thread of Serie A agreeing to cancel without titles being given out was total hogwash or what?
Pfffffffffffft!
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Juventus have said they don't want the trophy if the league's cancelled. Nothing has been agreed yet. No decisions have been made. This really isn't that hard to understand.
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What article are you posting on? Do you even know how articles work?
"not in Serie A. Today they agreed that if season not completed then no championship will be awarded."
This comment/allegation was made on this article but I haven't seen it reported anywhere is all I said. Sounds like you agree with that
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
I honestly have no idea what will happen, however, I am absolutely convinced that the country will not go back to normal for quite some time. As a result, I think there is a strong chance the season will not end. I think there are arguments on all sides that are worthy.
Its a mess.
But then watching GMB this morning is making me realise that the situation is at lot worse than we think. There are reports to say that if care home deaths were in the figures that we would have the 2nd highest amount of deaths in the world. Some hospitals sending civod patients back to care homes to die, perhaps to avoid a statistic. This really does put the football side of things into perspective. We need football again but it cannot come before the real priorities in this.
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This subject has inevitably been discussed many times over many threads during the last month and for the first time last night it seemed like null and void wasn't being completely dismissed by certain posters.
The general consensus now seems to be thats its between taking the current positions as final or binning the whole thing off. Both are completely undesirable but its most likely going to be one or the other rather than a restart. I'm in the null and void camp but I'm sure Liverpool, Leicester and Leeds fans will think differently.
There is nothing wrong with allowing your teams situation to influence your opinion on this issue. If you don't want whats best for your club then there isn't much point in supporting them.
Yeh I am quite astonished that some supporters just don`t get how serious this Coronavirus is. Talking about resuming football in June is such a total nonsense.
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Some people are talking about next season which is even worse. We don't even know when next season will start.
If next season starts in mid-August as usual then it will certainly be behind closed doors. There won't be 60,000 fans in the New WHL in August, will there? Games with crowds may not happen this year.
I think its better if people try to arrange to play behind closed doors and the sooner the better, so long as safety is the priority.
Finishing this season behind closed doors would allow them to get the experience and practice of playing games behind closed doors because I don't think we will be able to escape playing behind closed doors.
Looks like its guaranteed to happen at some point.
I've also seen the issue of season ticket renewals. Clubs will not be selling season tickets as its not known when fans will be able to attend games, which is unfortunate for so many clubs
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
That's the point Wahl. They've had their shot.
For me West Brom deserve to be in the Prem more than Norwich.
We already know Norwich aren't good enough as they're heading down, let someone else have a go.
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Had this happened at the same time in the 04/05 season, you'd probably have been saying the same thing about West Brom....They stayed up.
A season isn't finished until everyone has played everyone twice. And only then can it be determined fairly if a team was good enough to stay up.
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You're taking us back Champers. We've already agreed no solution will be entirely fair. So which option is better in your opinion?
I'm surprised some people having a go at Liverpool fans when their own preferences are selfish and not within reach. Wishful thinking without the ability to see it in themselves, only in others.
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My opinion is irrelevant, much the same as everyone else's.
I just take great exception at the suggestion you would relegate a team "cos they're not good enough". You don't know they aren't good enough yet as they haven't fulfilled the exact same fixtures as every one else, and wouldn't unless the full campaign was completed. Probability doesn't come into it, and if you want to maintain the integrity of a competition, then everybody needs to have competed under the exact same conditions as everyone else.
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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Yes but only a few days ago you were in no doubt that this season would be played to a finish however long that took.
So minds can be changed.
I would say its 50/50 between current positions and null and void and both will lead to court room battles. Finishing the season off is now virtually done as an option.
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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Yes but only a few days ago you were in no doubt that this season would be played to a finish however long that took.
So minds can be changed.
I would say its 50/50 between current positions and null and void and both will lead to court room battles. Finishing the season off is now virtually done as an option.
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yeah minds do change and I'm thinking its looking hard to see how the season can be finished anytime soon.
Let's see where we are in a month or so, it's all pie in the sky right now
comment by SgtWilko (U12059)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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That's because they are so desperate not to annoy the TV companies basically putting money ahead of the inevitable cancelation. When the TV companies come calling for their cash sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy watching billionaires arguing with millionaires over the ever decreasing pie.
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so my point stands then, as stated above let's see what happens in the coming months
It is all very simple.
There is no fair way of completing this season, be it resuming after June 30th, playing behind closed doors or taking current league standings.
None of these options are 100% fair and no amount of arguing can change this fact.
In these circumstances, the common sense option is to void leagues all around Europe and have no European competitions next season (or decide European qualification on UEFA coefficient standings if they insist on having CL and EL next season).
Divide prize monies for the season up equally between the clubs.
Obviously, the fans of clubs with something to lose will not like this and disagree.
There is no fair way of sorting this mess out, but by far the most common sense, safest and fairest option is to void.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 22 seconds ago
It is all very simple.
There is no fair way of completing this season, be it resuming after June 30th, playing behind closed doors or taking current league standings.
None of these options are 100% fair and no amount of arguing can change this fact.
In these circumstances, the common sense option is to void leagues all around Europe and have no European competitions next season (or decide European qualification on UEFA coefficient standings if they insist on having CL and EL next season).
Divide prize monies for the season up equally between the clubs.
Obviously, the fans of clubs with something to lose will not like this and disagree.
There is no fair way of sorting this mess out, but by far the most common sense, safest and fairest option is to void.
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Also if theres no European football for the 20/21 season that frees up plenty of time for Prem and Cup games should the season start late.
Remember the cl and Europa usually start in July so neither competition can happen in its current form unless a decision is made sharpish.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
No European competition.
Is this because Spurs aren't going to qualify for the CL Bitter Billy?
It's shocking how heavy Spurs fans are pushing this, compared to the rest of this site.
There is simply no point even entertaining no European competition just yet, until we see what happens.
With SARS for example there was a mad scramble to create a vaccine and eventually it went away. Of course it's much more serious this time but this could happen in the coming months, even without a vaccine. Or a drug is found which stops people needing intensive care.
Everything is speculation at this point which is why most leagues haven't yet made a decision.
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posted 53 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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posted 53 seconds ago
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posted 6 seconds ago
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posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
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posted 6 seconds ago
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posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
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You just can't see beyond Spurs.
Who is losing 23 home games and why?
This season has to be priority at this time.
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posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
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You just can't see beyond Spurs.
Who is losing 23 home games and why?
This season has to be priority at this time.
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How does null and void benefit Spurs?
With Kane, Son and Sissoko back theres a good chance we would finish the season strongly.
You would need a big push for CL football though
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posted on 22/4/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 23 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
I honestly have no idea what will happen, however, I am absolutely convinced that the country will not go back to normal for quite some time. As a result, I think there is a strong chance the season will not end. I think there are arguments on all sides that are worthy.
Its a mess.
But then watching GMB this morning is making me realise that the situation is at lot worse than we think. There are reports to say that if care home deaths were in the figures that we would have the 2nd highest amount of deaths in the world. Some hospitals sending civod patients back to care homes to die, perhaps to avoid a statistic. This really does put the football side of things into perspective. We need football again but it cannot come before the real priorities in this.
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Yeh I am quite astonished that some supporters just don`t get how serious this Coronavirus is. Talking about resuming football in June is such a total nonsense.
I have always been of the belief that football will not resume until early 2021 at the earliest. The way it is all going though, I think next season will be wiped out as well. And probably won`t be seeing any football or any other sport until late 2021 or until a vaccine is found.
The authorities are just pushing the can down the road, they know football will not resume anytime soon, but are just trying to keep supporters onside. They will however have to make a major decision sometime in the near future, just to call it a day on this season.
Football will take a massive hit like all other businesses. And it certainly will not be the same when we emerge from this pandemic.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 5 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Wait, this was just 6 hours ago
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11854/11976619/serie-a-teams-agree-season-should-be-completed
So within the last 6 hours this decision has been directly reversed?
What the fack?
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No. Has not been reversed.
Serie A are meeting with the government tomorrow too work on a plan 2 get started again.
WHO have no authority and can only advise and to 'advise' all sport to stop 4 a year is ridiculus.
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So the talk that was on this thread of Serie A agreeing to cancel without titles being given out was total hogwash or what?
Pfffffffffffft!
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Juventus have said they don't want the trophy if the league's cancelled. Nothing has been agreed yet. No decisions have been made. This really isn't that hard to understand.
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What article are you posting on? Do you even know how articles work?
"not in Serie A. Today they agreed that if season not completed then no championship will be awarded."
This comment/allegation was made on this article but I haven't seen it reported anywhere is all I said. Sounds like you agree with that
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
I honestly have no idea what will happen, however, I am absolutely convinced that the country will not go back to normal for quite some time. As a result, I think there is a strong chance the season will not end. I think there are arguments on all sides that are worthy.
Its a mess.
But then watching GMB this morning is making me realise that the situation is at lot worse than we think. There are reports to say that if care home deaths were in the figures that we would have the 2nd highest amount of deaths in the world. Some hospitals sending civod patients back to care homes to die, perhaps to avoid a statistic. This really does put the football side of things into perspective. We need football again but it cannot come before the real priorities in this.
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This subject has inevitably been discussed many times over many threads during the last month and for the first time last night it seemed like null and void wasn't being completely dismissed by certain posters.
The general consensus now seems to be thats its between taking the current positions as final or binning the whole thing off. Both are completely undesirable but its most likely going to be one or the other rather than a restart. I'm in the null and void camp but I'm sure Liverpool, Leicester and Leeds fans will think differently.
There is nothing wrong with allowing your teams situation to influence your opinion on this issue. If you don't want whats best for your club then there isn't much point in supporting them.
posted on 22/4/20
Yeh I am quite astonished that some supporters just don`t get how serious this Coronavirus is. Talking about resuming football in June is such a total nonsense.
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Some people are talking about next season which is even worse. We don't even know when next season will start.
If next season starts in mid-August as usual then it will certainly be behind closed doors. There won't be 60,000 fans in the New WHL in August, will there? Games with crowds may not happen this year.
I think its better if people try to arrange to play behind closed doors and the sooner the better, so long as safety is the priority.
Finishing this season behind closed doors would allow them to get the experience and practice of playing games behind closed doors because I don't think we will be able to escape playing behind closed doors.
Looks like its guaranteed to happen at some point.
posted on 22/4/20
I've also seen the issue of season ticket renewals. Clubs will not be selling season tickets as its not known when fans will be able to attend games, which is unfortunate for so many clubs
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
That's the point Wahl. They've had their shot.
For me West Brom deserve to be in the Prem more than Norwich.
We already know Norwich aren't good enough as they're heading down, let someone else have a go.
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Had this happened at the same time in the 04/05 season, you'd probably have been saying the same thing about West Brom....They stayed up.
A season isn't finished until everyone has played everyone twice. And only then can it be determined fairly if a team was good enough to stay up.
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You're taking us back Champers. We've already agreed no solution will be entirely fair. So which option is better in your opinion?
I'm surprised some people having a go at Liverpool fans when their own preferences are selfish and not within reach. Wishful thinking without the ability to see it in themselves, only in others.
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My opinion is irrelevant, much the same as everyone else's.
I just take great exception at the suggestion you would relegate a team "cos they're not good enough". You don't know they aren't good enough yet as they haven't fulfilled the exact same fixtures as every one else, and wouldn't unless the full campaign was completed. Probability doesn't come into it, and if you want to maintain the integrity of a competition, then everybody needs to have competed under the exact same conditions as everyone else.
posted on 22/4/20
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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posted on 22/4/20
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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Yes but only a few days ago you were in no doubt that this season would be played to a finish however long that took.
So minds can be changed.
I would say its 50/50 between current positions and null and void and both will lead to court room battles. Finishing the season off is now virtually done as an option.
posted on 22/4/20
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posted on 22/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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Yes but only a few days ago you were in no doubt that this season would be played to a finish however long that took.
So minds can be changed.
I would say its 50/50 between current positions and null and void and both will lead to court room battles. Finishing the season off is now virtually done as an option.
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yeah minds do change and I'm thinking its looking hard to see how the season can be finished anytime soon.
Let's see where we are in a month or so, it's all pie in the sky right now
posted on 22/4/20
comment by SgtWilko (U12059)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
I've not seen one person from Uefa, The FA, and PL we're considering voiding the season.
Once they start talking about it as viable option I'll start to think of it as a possibility.
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That's because they are so desperate not to annoy the TV companies basically putting money ahead of the inevitable cancelation. When the TV companies come calling for their cash sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy watching billionaires arguing with millionaires over the ever decreasing pie.
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so my point stands then, as stated above let's see what happens in the coming months
posted on 22/4/20
It is all very simple.
There is no fair way of completing this season, be it resuming after June 30th, playing behind closed doors or taking current league standings.
None of these options are 100% fair and no amount of arguing can change this fact.
In these circumstances, the common sense option is to void leagues all around Europe and have no European competitions next season (or decide European qualification on UEFA coefficient standings if they insist on having CL and EL next season).
Divide prize monies for the season up equally between the clubs.
Obviously, the fans of clubs with something to lose will not like this and disagree.
There is no fair way of sorting this mess out, but by far the most common sense, safest and fairest option is to void.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 22 seconds ago
It is all very simple.
There is no fair way of completing this season, be it resuming after June 30th, playing behind closed doors or taking current league standings.
None of these options are 100% fair and no amount of arguing can change this fact.
In these circumstances, the common sense option is to void leagues all around Europe and have no European competitions next season (or decide European qualification on UEFA coefficient standings if they insist on having CL and EL next season).
Divide prize monies for the season up equally between the clubs.
Obviously, the fans of clubs with something to lose will not like this and disagree.
There is no fair way of sorting this mess out, but by far the most common sense, safest and fairest option is to void.
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Also if theres no European football for the 20/21 season that frees up plenty of time for Prem and Cup games should the season start late.
Remember the cl and Europa usually start in July so neither competition can happen in its current form unless a decision is made sharpish.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
posted on 22/4/20
No European competition.
Is this because Spurs aren't going to qualify for the CL Bitter Billy?
It's shocking how heavy Spurs fans are pushing this, compared to the rest of this site.
There is simply no point even entertaining no European competition just yet, until we see what happens.
With SARS for example there was a mad scramble to create a vaccine and eventually it went away. Of course it's much more serious this time but this could happen in the coming months, even without a vaccine. Or a drug is found which stops people needing intensive care.
Everything is speculation at this point which is why most leagues haven't yet made a decision.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
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Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
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You just can't see beyond Spurs.
Who is losing 23 home games and why?
This season has to be priority at this time.
posted on 22/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 16 minutes ago
It was only a few days ago a few people on where were laughing at the fact some felt voiding was a plausible option. Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
-----
By the same token, article after article and comment after comment has been made confirming that the season will/should be voided and "tough luck to Liverpool", "can't hand titles for an incomplete season" etc.
Now it appears it is at least up for discussion, yet we were being laughed at to even suggest it would be in the discussion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is saying anything is not up for discussion. But the simplest and cleanest way is to void and end the season. That way you get a definitive end. All teams have the same outcome. That at least puts it to bed, once and for all.
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Of course it's the simplest way. That doesn't mean it's the fairest way. Without getting into the fact that some clubs rely on the income, for the remaining games this season, one club is 25 points clear. This is not the same as the Dutch league where two teams are tied at the top.
If the seasons ends, it will be as it stands, like in Belgium or potentially Scotland, where one team were a considerable distance ahead.
Obviously the fans with nothing to lose won't like this but void is simply not a likely scenario.
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What posts like this don't consider is that yes its dreadful if a team lose the gate receipts for 5 or 6 games (especially in lower divs) but its alot better than 23 games.
Protecting next season must be the priority.
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What has 23 games got to do with anything?
No protecting next season must not be the priority. The priority should be protecting the season that's already 75% complete.
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You just can't see beyond Liverpool.
Of course losing 23 home games income will destroy many Champs, league 1 and 2 teams.
Next season cannot be jeopardised to complete this one.
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You just can't see beyond Spurs.
Who is losing 23 home games and why?
This season has to be priority at this time.
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How does null and void benefit Spurs?
With Kane, Son and Sissoko back theres a good chance we would finish the season strongly.
posted on 22/4/20
You would need a big push for CL football though
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