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posted on 26/4/20

It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
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Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.

posted on 26/4/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
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Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
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Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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It would be completely wrong to do so too

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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It would be completely wrong to do so too

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they will use the table from this season completed or not once ended.

Last seasons table

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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It would be completely wrong to do so too

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they will use the table from this season completed or not once ended.

Last seasons table
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I disagree with both but oh well

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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Prankster why on earth do you believe a word that comes out of UEEA's mouth? They couldn't run a bath.

Remember last seasons Europa Cup final when they were inviting people off the streets to come in for nothing to try and fill the stadium.

posted on 26/4/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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Prankster why on earth do you believe a word that comes out of UEEA's mouth? They couldn't run a bath.

Remember last seasons Europa Cup final when they were inviting people off the streets to come in for nothing to try and fill the stadium.
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posted on 26/4/20

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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It would be completely wrong to do so too

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they will use the table from this season completed or not once ended.

Last seasons table
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I disagree with both but oh well

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What would your solution be if the season doesn't get completed Bake?

posted on 26/4/20

anyways lads I'll leave you to it, until the next one of these silly fackin articles

posted on 26/4/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
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It would be completely wrong to do so too

----------------------------------------------------------------------
they will use the table from this season completed or not once ended.

Last seasons table
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I disagree with both but oh well

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What would your solution be if the season doesn't get completed Bake?
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I have debated the options and even changed my mind.

But the only 2 options for me currently are to cancel the season but allow next season to have some sort of head start for the teams based on where they were so far.

Or

Wait til fans can be in stadiums and then allow it to continue.

Not other option seems fair for enough teams IMO

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
anyways lads I'll leave you to it, until the next one of these silly fackin articles
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Tomorrow it is then Pranks.

posted on 26/4/20

There is not a chance if next seasons European competitions taking place anyway, so not sure why everyone is arguing.

No way will teams be allowed to fly around Europe this year. Coronavirus isn't just going to vanish.

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UEFA confirmed they won’t be using last season’s tables.
Unlucky
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It would be completely wrong to do so too

----------------------------------------------------------------------
they will use the table from this season completed or not once ended.

Last seasons table
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I disagree with both but oh well

----------------------------------------------------------------------
What would your solution be if the season doesn't get completed Bake?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I have debated the options and even changed my mind.

But the only 2 options for me currently are to cancel the season but allow next season to have some sort of head start for the teams based on where they were so far.

Or

Wait til fans can be in stadiums and then allow it to continue.

Not other option seems fair for enough teams IMO

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The problem with giving teams an advantage based on this seasons current showing is the old who have you played argument.

For example if Brighton were 3 points ahead of Villa with 9 games to go but still had to play all of the top 6 whereas Villa had none of them in their remaining fixtures then a very strong argument could be made that Villas position was the stronger in terms of likely final points total.

Therefore would Brighton deserve a head start on them for the 20/21 campaign?

As you know I don't want them to even think about playing football behind closed doors, however I fear that out of desperation it may happen.

posted on 26/4/20

That's a fair point to be honest

posted on 26/4/20

There is no fair and safe way of completing the season.

The season has now had its integrity compromised.

Behind closed doors, points per game, current league placings or overlapping into next season are all littered with impossible complexities and are extremely unfair.

The fairest and safest solution is to follow the Dutch course of action and cancel European football for next season.

Under these horrific circumstances, this solves a lot of problems and difficulties, minimizes the impact of clubs feeling `hard done by` to an absolute minimum, and is the safest, fairest and most sensible outcome for the vast majority.



posted on 26/4/20

Billy definitely has a series of templates that he just copies and pastes depending on what he is responding to.

posted on 26/4/20

Liverpool fans need to chill.

posted on 26/4/20

All chilled here.

posted on 26/4/20

You don’t seem like it

posted on 26/4/20

Oh. Well I am

posted on 26/4/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
It doesn't matter that teams have not qualified mathematically. If the CL proceeds we will take up all our four allocations. Anything else would be the height of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but the remaining 3 places will need be taken from this seasons completed league table or failing that the most recently completed league table.

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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Easy for you to say but that won't happen because UEFA have provided guidelines and this option is categorically off the table. How many times do you want to be told?

Last season was done, kaput, finito. You used it to qualify for this seasons Champions League. That ticket is punched and expired. You can't use 18/19 results to qualify for 20/21 European season.

I'll see you tomorrow when you'll be saying the same thing even though you've been told its not possible.

posted on 26/4/20

Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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This is not why Utrecht are appealing.

You talk about mathematics but then you want to go back and reward teams for doing nothing at all. Spurs have been useless since last season. They won't be in the CL as that would reward mediocrity instead of success.

The current season determines next seasons Champions league places. It says so in the rules. It must be this season. Do you know what rules are?

Therefore only Liverpool have qualified for CL so far.

posted on 27/4/20

comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
Unless a team has mathematically qualified an unfinished table is unusable. Hence why Utrecht are appealing.
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This is not why Utrecht are appealing.

You talk about mathematics but then you want to go back and reward teams for doing nothing at all. Spurs have been useless since last season. They won't be in the CL as that would reward mediocrity instead of success.

The current season determines next seasons Champions league places. It says so in the rules. It must be this season. Do you know what rules are?

Therefore only Liverpool have qualified for CL so far.
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In a situation like this I'm afraid the rule book goes out of the window.

Utrecht are taking legal action (quite rightly) because they are 3 points behind Willem for the last Europa place and have a game in hand plus a superior goal difference.

The Dutch have screwed it right up by null and voiding winning and relegation spots but not the European places.

posted on 27/4/20

"UEFA would require the National Association concerned to select clubs for the UEFA club competitions 2020/21 based on sporting merit in the 2019/20 domestic competitions:"

This is straight from UEFA guidelines Bawron. Take your time to read and then stop this last season hogwash. IRFA have said entrants must be on merit from this season, period.

Move on.

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