Of course there is a question of fairness. I've seen that stressed on here.

It is easy to agree that no fair solution to the impasse exists, but the argument is that playing BCD is the most fair option with the caveat that only if it can be done safely.

Money talks unfortunately. They'll finish behind closed doors and most likely at neutral grounds too. It's down to the players to perform, ultimately, not the fans.

The TV money is too important to the clubs not to finish it in some way. Apparently Premiership games will be shown free to air as well.

comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money talks unfortunately. They'll finish behind closed doors and most likely at neutral grounds too. It's down to the players to perform, ultimately, not the fans.

The TV money is too important to the clubs not to finish it in some way. Apparently Premiership games will be shown free to air as well.
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Yeah..... think you're right. I don't really care anymore.... I think Liverpool deserve the title but I dunno if I'll really be that fussed about watching games with no fans/ atmosphere. As a Spurs fan, it might help us... being the biggest bottlers out there, we'll probably look like world beaters with no atmosphere/ pressure and games played in the atmosphere of a library

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money talks unfortunately. They'll finish behind closed doors and most likely at neutral grounds too. It's down to the players to perform, ultimately, not the fans.

The TV money is too important to the clubs not to finish it in some way. Apparently Premiership games will be shown free to air as well.
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Yeah..... think you're right. I don't really care anymore.... I think Liverpool deserve the title but I dunno if I'll really be that fussed about watching games with no fans/ atmosphere. As a Spurs fan, it might help us... being the biggest bottlers out there, we'll probably look like world beaters with no atmosphere/ pressure and games played in the atmosphere of a library
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I've also heard that, to bring atmosphere, both dugouts will be fully mic'd up as well as the referee and officials!

So bored reading about Liverpool winning the title that I really want this season declared void. I don't give a feck about them or what they or any other fans thinks they deserve. Tough luck!

To be fair, this exact argument comes up all the time. Out of the various articles that spiral into argument about the possible solutions, the same people argue/debate the same things over and over again.

I personally don't know what the right thing is, but I firmly disagree with what is "least" or "most" fair. I don't see how one option can be least fair than another. Surely, unfair is unfair.

What people mean by fair or unfair is based on what will give their own team the best possible outcome. Of course, Liverpool fans feel the fairest way to deal with all this is to finish the season so they can be given the title.

But a team in the relegation zone, who maybe lost 3 points away to a fellow relegation candidate in a big game for them, would feel it was unfair that they had to play the reverse fixture with no fans roaring them on. There is clearly a disadvantage to that which could well be the difference between staying up or going down.

There is no right or wrong answer from this. Any decision now will upset someone. For me, they cannot simply go with a decision to please the "right" team/people.

Some have been saying Liverpool should get the title but then don't relegate teams. That is completely inconsistent and not right. It has to be the same for everyone.

I personally don't agree that all the leagues could have different solutions. I include non-league and grass roots in this. Same across the board please.

For the record, I don't give a t0ss what that means for Spurs. If it means we miss out on Europe then so be it.

Why end it early? I don't understand what difference it makes.

When football is able to return then you finish it.

For smaller leagues and teams in danger of going bust it's different, they may well need to stop in order to get out of contracts that would send them broke

Circumstances have changed, the most fair thing about if it were to happen would be the fact that the fixtures were decided randomly by a computer months before the season began so it came down to luck of the draw, similar to a cup draw.

Under the circumstances and weighing it up vs the alternatives is the only way they can go about it, you can't compare this to other seasons, or the first 2/3rds of the season for that matter because the circumstances have changed.

I have a feeling the season might have to be written off.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why end it early? I don't understand what difference it makes.

When football is able to return then you finish it.

For smaller leagues and teams in danger of going bust it's different, they may well need to stop in order to get out of contracts that would send them broke
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If finishing this season, is going to mean next season doesn`t finish. What is the point?

I don`t expect either this or next to finish, but that is only my view.

Much bigger things going on than sport at the moment.

I like football, and I also like a beer, but I have to say I am missing neither at the moment.

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 16 seconds ago
Circumstances have changed, the most fair thing about if it were to happen would be the fact that the fixtures were decided randomly by a computer months before the season began so it came down to luck of the draw, similar to a cup draw.

Under the circumstances and weighing it up vs the alternatives is the only way they can go about it, you can't compare this to other seasons, or the first 2/3rds of the season for that matter because the circumstances have changed.
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Eh?

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 47 seconds ago
I have a feeling the season might have to be written off.
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then it will go the scottish/belgian route i imagine, its as fair as it gets in that scenario.

comment by LukaBrazi (U6949)
posted 8 minutes ago
So bored reading about Liverpool winning the title that I really want this season declared void. I don't give a feck about them or what they or any other fans thinks they deserve. Tough luck!

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Unlucky

I personally don't know what the right thing is, but I firmly disagree with what is "least" or "most" fair. I don't see how one option can be least fair than another. Surely, unfair is unfair.
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Huh?

This is categorically false in my opinion. Some things are more unfair than others, that's just the way it is. How can you argue otherwise? If that's you're entire premise then you're wrong from the start.

What a convenient but false premise that ties in well with your opinion and you can hide behind it. Unfair isn't just unfair.

Also, you comment about other people posting this or that but to be honest I'm tired of reading this preachy pretentious piece from you. You're posting it on all the threads and we heard you the first one hundred kabillion eighty times and still no one has stopped.

If there was something else worthy of discussion, people would gravitate towards it naturally without being ushered like sheep.

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 16 seconds ago
Circumstances have changed, the most fair thing about if it were to happen would be the fact that the fixtures were decided randomly by a computer months before the season began so it came down to luck of the draw, similar to a cup draw.

Under the circumstances and weighing it up vs the alternatives is the only way they can go about it, you can't compare this to other seasons, or the first 2/3rds of the season for that matter because the circumstances have changed.
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Eh?

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The one question I do have which hasn't been raised much is that for all those who are for finishing the season behind closed doors...... Is there not a question of fairness in all this. I mean, for those clubs who still have to go to Anfield, City, Old Trafford, Chelsea Etc surely the task is easier without 50,000+ cheering on the home team vs those who have already played away at particularly tough stadiums and got thumped ?

I actually entirely disagree with this. Footballers (say what you want about them) are still elite, professional athletes. They still have intense training and preparation for matches.

You can't tell me that before games players hear an immense atmosphere and suddenly win or lose the game? What about the team on the pitch? The tactical meetings they've had?? Does that go out of the window because they're away from home with a nasty crowd??

Man United 1 Palace 2
Chelsea 0 Bournemouth 1
Liverpool 2 Atleti 3
Man United 0 Burnley 2

None of those away teams bottled it due to a loud atmosphere.

People seem to be question fairness to past seasons or earlier parts of the seasons, how can you do this? the circumstances are totally different under the circumstances is it fair? is the question need asking.

And regarding the OP, it's the only feasible way that the season can be completed in the foreseeable future where the players are still responsible for their own achievements. The only other way would be to wait until everyone can fill the stands again, which is very unlikely. So this seems the fairest way to end the season.

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
I personally don't know what the right thing is, but I firmly disagree with what is "least" or "most" fair. I don't see how one option can be least fair than another. Surely, unfair is unfair.
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Huh?

This is categorically false in my opinion. Some things are more unfair than others, that's just the way it is. How can you argue otherwise? If that's you're entire premise then you're wrong from the start.

What a convenient but false premise that ties in well with your opinion and you can hide behind it. Unfair isn't just unfair.

Also, you comment about other people posting this or that but to be honest I'm tired of reading this preachy pretentious piece from you. You're posting it on all the threads and we heard you the first one hundred kabillion eighty times and still no one has stopped.

If there was something else worthy of discussion, people would gravitate towards it naturally without being ushered like sheep.
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WTF are you talking about

You spout the same rubbish on every single article about this too yet you say I spout the same stuff.

I do it to add some balance. I don't favour a team or scenario when I say my piece., I believe I add balance against heavily weighted opinions.

On the issue around fair and unfair, who are you to say what is more fair and unfair? Surely, what you see as fair, is not what others would agree with. We know this is fact based on the numerous articles where opinion has differed.

Every decision has an impact which would be unfair. I maintain that anything unfair is exactly that, unfair. You are quantifying it in a different way.

As I seem to get under your skin, id suggest you either ignore my comments or block me if you cant cope with it

comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually entirely disagree with this. Footballers (say what you want about them) are still elite, professional athletes. They still have intense training and preparation for matches.

You can't tell me that before games players hear an immense atmosphere and suddenly win or lose the game? What about the team on the pitch? The tactical meetings they've had?? Does that go out of the window because they're away from home with a nasty crowd??

Man United 1 Palace 2
Chelsea 0 Bournemouth 1
Liverpool 2 Atleti 3
Man United 0 Burnley 2

None of those away teams bottled it due to a loud atmosphere.
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Literally no one is saying that.

You haven't thought this through enough.

Are you suggesting that playing at home with a predominantly home crowd is not an advantage?

Dude, your last article was nearly one year agall.

Let people discuss what they want and if its repetitive so what? There's no other articles being made.

Fact is you taking the pulpit on every thread to talk about something you haven't contributed to in nearly a year is starting to induce vomit.

*ago

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dude, your last article was nearly one year agall.

Let people discuss what they want and if its repetitive so what? There's no other articles being made.

Fact is you taking the pulpit on every thread to talk about something you haven't contributed to in nearly a year is starting to induce vomit.
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I have been on the boards far longer than you I suspect. I was also on the original 606 boards.

Just because I don't create as many articles as you seem to think I should, doesn't mean a thing. I contribute in my own way with comments within other peoples articles. You are right, I have created a handful of articles since I joined, I don't see a problem with that at all.

I like the way you have looked at my profile though to gain the info you needed. I honestly feel I have got to you. Unintended, I would add.

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 13 minutes ago
Dude, your last article was nearly one year agall.

Let people discuss what they want and if its repetitive so what? There's no other articles being made.

Fact is you taking the pulpit on every thread to talk about something you haven't contributed to in nearly a year is starting to induce vomit.
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Are you suggesting the more you post the more valid your argument is ?

What bizarre logic

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 49 minutes ago
Dude, your last article was nearly one year agall.

Let people discuss what they want and if its repetitive so what? There's no other articles being made.

Fact is you taking the pulpit on every thread to talk about something you haven't contributed to in nearly a year is starting to induce vomit.
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Bake em is a really top poster.