comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
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So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
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Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
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Maybe you give religion too much credit. It's not really religion that does these things, but people. With or without religion, humans are prone to bloodshed.
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Fair point, but Religion is the cover they use in order to justify such a sick mindset
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Again in a research project by the institute of economics and peace (in 2013) they studied 35 conflicts and found 40% had no religious elements, 14% did, or 5 conflicts. Even then it was an element not the main cause
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
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When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
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When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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So why are such acts carried out in the name of Islam?
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
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It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
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It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
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Free speech - you should be able to say anything against any religious figure: Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, Allah without the threat of death against you and your family - fanatical Religious nutcases
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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So why are such acts carried out in the name of Islam?
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Can you give me examples of a stoning and I'll see if I can answer that for you.
As far as I know stoning has been the result of tribal and rebel areas not govts. Where a rare case did exist of govts being seen as behind it they drew opposition from scholars etc
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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It actually says that stuff I then Bible...but that was for a society 3000 years ago
People, societies, culture has evolved since then...well the majority have - there are some still around that live to such backward standards
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
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It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
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Free speech - you should be able to say anything against any religious figure: Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, Allah without the threat of death against you and your family - fanatical Religious nutcases
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Yeah free speech but don't you think the where and when matters?
Me and you are discussing and as adults fair enough free speech to say what you feel, just as I have free speech to counter act. I would still hope that our main focus wasn't offend each other unnecessarily
But kids of 13-14 in a classroom by a teacher saying "your lads are blowing our lads legs off"?
Would it be free speech for a teacher to say to a 13 year old girl in class "you're fit and in 3 years I want to have sexks with you"?
Come on bro, free speech carries responsibilities too.
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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It actually says that stuff I then Bible...but that was for a society 3000 years ago
People, societies, culture has evolved since then...well the majority have - there are some still around that live to such backward standards
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I know it says it in the bible and iirc Judaism was where it was carried out the most. Again a long time ago. The Quran is the only book which doesn't say it.
Yes it does carry responsibilities, and the teaching should have been a lot more professional and aware of the possible response in such an environment
But nevertheless, mocking a Religious figure, even in a school lesson, no matter who it was should not result in the guy getting the sack or being threatened
I mean let’s be honest, if he’d made a derogatory remark about Jesus Christ, the chances are not a single person would have battered and eyelid
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
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Don't forget the Muslim only zones in parts of England controlled by the Sharia law police
But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 7 seconds ago
Yes it does carry responsibilities, and the teaching should have been a lot more professional and aware of the possible response in such an environment
But nevertheless, mocking a Religious figure, even in a school lesson, no matter who it was should not result in the guy getting the sack or being threatened
I mean let’s be honest, if he’d made a derogatory remark about Jesus Christ, the chances are not a single person would have battered and eyelid
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But that's the point he hasn't been sacked, suspended pending investigation.
And I disagree mocking a religious figures in RE isn't the role of the teacher. It's no different than mocking other figures such as MLK or Ghandi etc. I would hope an RE teacher or any other wouldn't be making derogatory remarks about Jesus either. And certainly should be disciplined if they do.
Discussing shocking things and even showing pictures some may find shocking is not off the table. But mocking, ridiculing or down right offending a person's belief or background in a classroom setting is not the role nor a right.
I've had discussions with many a folk. One that springs to mind was with a couple of "elders" (as they refer to themselves although they were young men) from America on a missionary trip to UK. During the discussion they told me they believed the Quran was written by the devil. It was in a mosque and a few other people were there and no one took offence or started beating these lads. We discussed and they went on their way.
Now if my kid came home from school and said my teacher said you believe in a book that the devil wrote, too right I'd be angry.
My own RE teacher in school was a reverand. Still have contact with him today. He was clearly biased and would grill me on Islamic belief (I was only Muslim in class). Often his comments would be used against me outside of the classroom there was no need for it and I'm glad that my old school and others don't have reverands as re teachers. I don't think.its a pre requisite and would be happier with an atheist tbh. The role is to impart certain information as per the syllabus, that's it.
As a kid I didn't have the knowledge and means to discuss with him. It want necessary imo. He doesn't discuss with me now though funnily enough, because I can ague back.
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
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Yeah no worries. Hope I haven't offended you in any way
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
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Yeah no worries. Hope I haven't offended you in any way
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You too mate - and I apologise if I came across with ‘anti Islamic rhetoric’ it wasn’t meant to be as such - I just feel strongly about Religion per se - whether that be Christian or Islamic
I have no issue whatsoever with, Spirituality, God, that inner, divine journey of discovery, faith and creativity - that’s where I’m at - I’ve moved on from Religion and Religious institutions - I much prefer to deal with God direct rather that through an institution
comment by (KΜash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
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Don't forget the Muslim only zones in parts of England controlled by the Sharia law police
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More abhorrent behaviour that doesn't belong in western society. Just sick, angry delusional trouble makers looking to cause irreparable damage to our communities and country at large. They can quote religion and deny acting the way they do all they want, it's there for all to see.
It's the same fanatics that are leading the protests outside this school and they want to Sharia Law justice on this man because they believe they're entitled to it.
getting mental over a person that didnt exist.even if he did he didnt speak to any angel in any cave. because its not REAL.
apart from that carry on! waste your lives fighting over zero
He also split the moon in halfπ€£π€£
There's a really BIG problem with that belief!!!
Scientology beliefs sound more plausible.
Ninja has already said the complaint doesn’t relate to pictures used by the teacher, but inappropriate comments made by him, which are now being investigated.
I’m not sure what more the protestors want to happen but they should go home and await the outcome like any other group would be expected.
They call it faith because it lacks knowledge
If someone tells me I’ve hurt their feelings, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.
Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
On to the school situation. I thought it was a specific class on blasphemy? And had been taught for the last couple of years? Don’t see the big issue and as much as I like the Muslim people I know personally for some reason this is all a much bigger deal for Islam than it is fir any other religion. Most Muslims will see it for what it is and not have a particular issue but those that do go too far and much further than the equivalents from other religions.
The school, the government, the union have all been disgusting cowards with this issue, a growing trend these days and this is a supposed Conservative government.
Islamophobic: a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
He also split the moon in halfπ€£π€£
There's a really BIG problem with that belief!!!
Scientology beliefs sound more plausible.
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Yeah pretty much. Scientology sounds like complete and utter nonsense yet still makes an awful lot more "sense" and is far more "realistic" than religions like Islam and Christianity.
*The words sense and realistic being used very very loosely!
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
Islamophobic: a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.
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posted on 30/3/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
posted on 31/3/21
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you give religion too much credit. It's not really religion that does these things, but people. With or without religion, humans are prone to bloodshed.
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Fair point, but Religion is the cover they use in order to justify such a sick mindset
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Again in a research project by the institute of economics and peace (in 2013) they studied 35 conflicts and found 40% had no religious elements, 14% did, or 5 conflicts. Even then it was an element not the main cause
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
posted on 31/3/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why are such acts carried out in the name of Islam?
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
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It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
posted on 31/3/21
What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
posted on 31/3/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free speech - you should be able to say anything against any religious figure: Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, Allah without the threat of death against you and your family - fanatical Religious nutcases
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why are such acts carried out in the name of Islam?
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Can you give me examples of a stoning and I'll see if I can answer that for you.
As far as I know stoning has been the result of tribal and rebel areas not govts. Where a rare case did exist of govts being seen as behind it they drew opposition from scholars etc
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comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
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People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
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So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
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Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
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When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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It actually says that stuff I then Bible...but that was for a society 3000 years ago
People, societies, culture has evolved since then...well the majority have - there are some still around that live to such backward standards
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comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
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comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
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Ninja, you call it ‘anti Islamic rhetoric?’
I call it anti barbaric inhumane acts of violence against another purely because they don’t believe your version of event
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It is antinislamic rhetoric and the fact is you are utilisinh it as a crutch to go off topic when I gave you some facts about the main issue at hand.
It happens time and time again. A topic starts and when folk don't have a comeback they go off tangent.
Even here we see a thread about a "sacked" teacher who wasn't sacked.
Focus became Muslims up in arms about a cartoon when the material has been used for at least a couple of years, and a teacher who was making inappropriate comments.
A lesson that isn't part of the national curriculum being made out as if it dictates education as a whole.
Religion is cause of all wars when clearly it isn't
Oh but stoning
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Free speech - you should be able to say anything against any religious figure: Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, Allah without the threat of death against you and your family - fanatical Religious nutcases
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Yeah free speech but don't you think the where and when matters?
Me and you are discussing and as adults fair enough free speech to say what you feel, just as I have free speech to counter act. I would still hope that our main focus wasn't offend each other unnecessarily
But kids of 13-14 in a classroom by a teacher saying "your lads are blowing our lads legs off"?
Would it be free speech for a teacher to say to a 13 year old girl in class "you're fit and in 3 years I want to have sexks with you"?
Come on bro, free speech carries responsibilities too.
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
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comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
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comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 18 seconds ago
People will try and dress it up any way they can to justify ‘their Religion’
But at the end of the day, you only have to watch the news to see what Religion has done across the world
And and be blunt, Islamic extremist are some of the worst - they justify their barbaric and inhumane actions of torture and murder because their Holy Book directs them too
I mean, what civilised society would half bury a woman in the ground then throw rocks at her until she’s dead
Or be-head another human being with a blunt blade?
Or tie a belt of explosives around a child and make them walk in to the middle of a market place before detonating it
I mean seriously, in the 21st Century, this still happens today - it’s just plain sick
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So you can't argue with my facts and resort to anti Islamic rhetoric?
Suicide bombings were always associated with nationalistic causes from the first one in Russia to today.
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Can you answer the stoning to death of a half buried woman in the ground - for allegedly commuting adultery?
What about the beheadings? Where the justification for that in the so called Holy Book?
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When you can show me in the Quran where it proscribes these I'll address them for you.
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It actually says that stuff I then Bible...but that was for a society 3000 years ago
People, societies, culture has evolved since then...well the majority have - there are some still around that live to such backward standards
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I know it says it in the bible and iirc Judaism was where it was carried out the most. Again a long time ago. The Quran is the only book which doesn't say it.
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Yes it does carry responsibilities, and the teaching should have been a lot more professional and aware of the possible response in such an environment
But nevertheless, mocking a Religious figure, even in a school lesson, no matter who it was should not result in the guy getting the sack or being threatened
I mean let’s be honest, if he’d made a derogatory remark about Jesus Christ, the chances are not a single person would have battered and eyelid
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
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What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
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Don't forget the Muslim only zones in parts of England controlled by the Sharia law police
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But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
posted on 31/3/21
comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 7 seconds ago
Yes it does carry responsibilities, and the teaching should have been a lot more professional and aware of the possible response in such an environment
But nevertheless, mocking a Religious figure, even in a school lesson, no matter who it was should not result in the guy getting the sack or being threatened
I mean let’s be honest, if he’d made a derogatory remark about Jesus Christ, the chances are not a single person would have battered and eyelid
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But that's the point he hasn't been sacked, suspended pending investigation.
And I disagree mocking a religious figures in RE isn't the role of the teacher. It's no different than mocking other figures such as MLK or Ghandi etc. I would hope an RE teacher or any other wouldn't be making derogatory remarks about Jesus either. And certainly should be disciplined if they do.
Discussing shocking things and even showing pictures some may find shocking is not off the table. But mocking, ridiculing or down right offending a person's belief or background in a classroom setting is not the role nor a right.
I've had discussions with many a folk. One that springs to mind was with a couple of "elders" (as they refer to themselves although they were young men) from America on a missionary trip to UK. During the discussion they told me they believed the Quran was written by the devil. It was in a mosque and a few other people were there and no one took offence or started beating these lads. We discussed and they went on their way.
Now if my kid came home from school and said my teacher said you believe in a book that the devil wrote, too right I'd be angry.
My own RE teacher in school was a reverand. Still have contact with him today. He was clearly biased and would grill me on Islamic belief (I was only Muslim in class). Often his comments would be used against me outside of the classroom there was no need for it and I'm glad that my old school and others don't have reverands as re teachers. I don't think.its a pre requisite and would be happier with an atheist tbh. The role is to impart certain information as per the syllabus, that's it.
As a kid I didn't have the knowledge and means to discuss with him. It want necessary imo. He doesn't discuss with me now though funnily enough, because I can ague back.
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comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
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Yeah no worries. Hope I haven't offended you in any way
posted on 31/3/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
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comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
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But we’re going round in circles here mate - we’ll just have to both continue to mull over such issues
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Yeah no worries. Hope I haven't offended you in any way
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You too mate - and I apologise if I came across with ‘anti Islamic rhetoric’ it wasn’t meant to be as such - I just feel strongly about Religion per se - whether that be Christian or Islamic
I have no issue whatsoever with, Spirituality, God, that inner, divine journey of discovery, faith and creativity - that’s where I’m at - I’ve moved on from Religion and Religious institutions - I much prefer to deal with God direct rather that through an institution
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comment by (KΜash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
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comment by π¬π§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe π¬π§ (U22182)
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What about the teaching of Sharia Law, where does it get its authority from?
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Don't forget the Muslim only zones in parts of England controlled by the Sharia law police
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More abhorrent behaviour that doesn't belong in western society. Just sick, angry delusional trouble makers looking to cause irreparable damage to our communities and country at large. They can quote religion and deny acting the way they do all they want, it's there for all to see.
It's the same fanatics that are leading the protests outside this school and they want to Sharia Law justice on this man because they believe they're entitled to it.
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getting mental over a person that didnt exist.even if he did he didnt speak to any angel in any cave. because its not REAL.
apart from that carry on! waste your lives fighting over zero
posted on 31/3/21
He also split the moon in halfπ€£π€£
There's a really BIG problem with that belief!!!
Scientology beliefs sound more plausible.
posted on 31/3/21
Ninja has already said the complaint doesn’t relate to pictures used by the teacher, but inappropriate comments made by him, which are now being investigated.
I’m not sure what more the protestors want to happen but they should go home and await the outcome like any other group would be expected.
posted on 31/3/21
They call it faith because it lacks knowledge
If someone tells me I’ve hurt their feelings, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.
Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
On to the school situation. I thought it was a specific class on blasphemy? And had been taught for the last couple of years? Don’t see the big issue and as much as I like the Muslim people I know personally for some reason this is all a much bigger deal for Islam than it is fir any other religion. Most Muslims will see it for what it is and not have a particular issue but those that do go too far and much further than the equivalents from other religions.
The school, the government, the union have all been disgusting cowards with this issue, a growing trend these days and this is a supposed Conservative government.
Islamophobic: a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.
posted on 31/3/21
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
He also split the moon in halfπ€£π€£
There's a really BIG problem with that belief!!!
Scientology beliefs sound more plausible.
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Yeah pretty much. Scientology sounds like complete and utter nonsense yet still makes an awful lot more "sense" and is far more "realistic" than religions like Islam and Christianity.
*The words sense and realistic being used very very loosely!
posted on 31/3/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
Islamophobic: a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.
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Would you say the same about the words 'homophobic' and 'antisemitic'?
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