comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Really? You almost sound disappointed with the verdict.
Hope he rots in jail the murderous fecker.
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You seem to underline the fact that the a lot of people, do not want justice, the want revenge instead
That is scary
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It’s par the course that comes with Justice in cases like these. If you wanna spin my words into some sort of illogical moral rant, have at it.
He’s a convicted murderer. Justice has spoken, now hopefully a lengthy spell behind bars.
Where he can rot.
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Right OK
Going on that theory then....you’d have probably been happy for someone like Nelson Mandela to rot in jail too?
Justice has indeed spoken, his punishment will be lifelong - from my point of view (and I’m fully aware, that not many people will share this view, or agree with it), the guy is still a human being, and compassion/mercy are somewhere within the equation - obviously alongside justice and fairness...
I’m just pleased I’m not making such decision
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 8 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
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Having watched large parts of the trial I wasn't that surprised by the verdict as the defence experts were routinely taken apart under cross examination.
That said as a jury trial, never sure how they will swing.
In regard to 2nd degree it was orginally 2nd degree manslaughter but this was set aside and replaced with 2nd degree murder as Chauvins actions could either have been could have been intentional or unintentional.
The bodycam footage was able to demonstrate Chavin did not pay 'due care' to his suspect when it was pointed out to him Floyd had no pulse.
3rd degree murder charge sets out that Chauvin acted in a way that endangered Floyd's life, (the neck restraint) which resulted in his death.
Other than bummed and have his neck knelt on every day what will he get?
Jesus Christ, the guy uses Mandela as an example!! Wow...
Spare me the bull crap about mercy and compassion, where was Chauvins for Floyd? And he’s the damn police.
yes sit in your damn cell forever and a day and rot, the piece of murderous crap he is.
Using Mandela to get across a flimsy point, man that’s just ridiculous.
I suppose I’m meant to have compassion for the 3
sorry sons of cunnnts that killed Stephen Lawerence. Cos hey, they only human after all.
Nah, Some are just meant to rot away...
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 59 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
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It was political to an extent because yeah he shouldn't be found guilty on all those charges but no biggy
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jesus Christ, the guy uses Mandela as an example!! Wow...
Spare me the bull crap about mercy and compassion, where was Chauvins for Floyd? And he’s the damn police.
yes sit in your damn cell forever and a day and rot, the piece of murderous crap he is.
Using Mandela to get across a flimsy point, man that’s just ridiculous.
I suppose I’m meant to have compassion for the 3
sorry sons of cunnnts that killed Stephen Lawerence. Cos hey, they only human after all.
Nah, Some are just meant to rot away...
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I was just trying to understand your stance - you make a statement like ‘he’s a murderer, let him rot in jail’ I was simply interested if that is how you see everyone convicted of such a crime - is it just police officers who commit murder, or murderers in general...or is it just anyone who commits a crime?
There’s no need to get so defensive, it’s simply trying to understand your point of view
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
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Yes your are correct
However:
‘Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorist actions’
So he may not have been convicted directly to these death, but he was definitely involved and responsible
Furthermore...Nelson Mandela IMO is regarded as one of the most inspirational human beings of the 20th Century
So, maybe it’s a good job he wasn’t convicted of the crimes mentioned above - otherwise he might have died still been ‘rotting in jail’
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
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I think a fair few more across the globe (including Mandela himself) referred to him in his earlier days as a ‘terrorist’
Just interested to know what ‘StringerBell’ thought of him?
Should he have ‘rotted in jail’
his wife loved necklacing people
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 3 minutes ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Wee Stompy never stood a chance.
Winnie was some pup.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Just read this piece on him:
‘It is true Mandela rose to greatness. Freed after 27 years in a South African jail, the anti-apartheid fighter emerged not bent on vengeance but healing. He negotiated a peaceful end to apartheid, and as the first president of democratic South Africa, preached - and practised - reconciliation. In this he was great. A healer. An inspiration.
For many whites abroad, he seems even Christ-like - someone who'd suffered for the sins of white guilt, and absolved those who believed in him of the sin of racism.
But Mandela was no Christ nor even Gandhi nor Martin Luther King. He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - this involved binding the hands of a person and placing a car tyre around their neck - before setting it on fire‘
One wonders in years to come whether Officer Derek Chauvin will have done anything to warrant any kind of redemption, forgiveness, positive legacy
Or will the events of the past year be the destruction of his life
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
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Legally and technically, true.
How is SA doing now?
That apartheid was well bad.
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 59 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
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It was political to an extent because yeah he shouldn't be found guilty on all those charges but no biggy
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The prosecution were able to prove all three charges beyond reasonable doubt, (which the jury upheld). So unclear why anyone would claim he shouldn't have been found guilty of them.
As with any case of this nature, multiple charges can be brought to increase chances of a conviction.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 31 minutes ago
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
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Evening.
Good to see the verdict last night as the cop was a wrong un.
Have you seen the Floyd rap sheet?
Did not deserve that death...or the praise about his Wonderful Life, imo.
The point being people can turn their lives around...and even the most deplorable and appalling situation can be turned into something positive with the right attitude, application and approach
It cannot be done overnight....and it wilt ale a lot of time and healing....but it can be done
It will be interesting to see how that pans out for Derek Chauvin - he will still has some major decisions to make
There’s hope for ALL people
But at this moment in time...it does look very bleak for Derek Chauvin
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posted on 21/4/21
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Really? You almost sound disappointed with the verdict.
Hope he rots in jail the murderous fecker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem to underline the fact that the a lot of people, do not want justice, the want revenge instead
That is scary
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s par the course that comes with Justice in cases like these. If you wanna spin my words into some sort of illogical moral rant, have at it.
He’s a convicted murderer. Justice has spoken, now hopefully a lengthy spell behind bars.
Where he can rot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right OK
Going on that theory then....you’d have probably been happy for someone like Nelson Mandela to rot in jail too?
Justice has indeed spoken, his punishment will be lifelong - from my point of view (and I’m fully aware, that not many people will share this view, or agree with it), the guy is still a human being, and compassion/mercy are somewhere within the equation - obviously alongside justice and fairness...
I’m just pleased I’m not making such decision
posted on 21/4/21
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 8 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having watched large parts of the trial I wasn't that surprised by the verdict as the defence experts were routinely taken apart under cross examination.
That said as a jury trial, never sure how they will swing.
In regard to 2nd degree it was orginally 2nd degree manslaughter but this was set aside and replaced with 2nd degree murder as Chauvins actions could either have been could have been intentional or unintentional.
The bodycam footage was able to demonstrate Chavin did not pay 'due care' to his suspect when it was pointed out to him Floyd had no pulse.
3rd degree murder charge sets out that Chauvin acted in a way that endangered Floyd's life, (the neck restraint) which resulted in his death.
posted on 21/4/21
Other than bummed and have his neck knelt on every day what will he get?
posted on 21/4/21
'is teeth knocked out !
posted on 21/4/21
Jesus Christ, the guy uses Mandela as an example!! Wow...
Spare me the bull crap about mercy and compassion, where was Chauvins for Floyd? And he’s the damn police.
yes sit in your damn cell forever and a day and rot, the piece of murderous crap he is.
Using Mandela to get across a flimsy point, man that’s just ridiculous.
I suppose I’m meant to have compassion for the 3
sorry sons of cunnnts that killed Stephen Lawerence. Cos hey, they only human after all.
Nah, Some are just meant to rot away...
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 59 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
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It was political to an extent because yeah he shouldn't be found guilty on all those charges but no biggy
posted on 21/4/21
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jesus Christ, the guy uses Mandela as an example!! Wow...
Spare me the bull crap about mercy and compassion, where was Chauvins for Floyd? And he’s the damn police.
yes sit in your damn cell forever and a day and rot, the piece of murderous crap he is.
Using Mandela to get across a flimsy point, man that’s just ridiculous.
I suppose I’m meant to have compassion for the 3
sorry sons of cunnnts that killed Stephen Lawerence. Cos hey, they only human after all.
Nah, Some are just meant to rot away...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was just trying to understand your stance - you make a statement like ‘he’s a murderer, let him rot in jail’ I was simply interested if that is how you see everyone convicted of such a crime - is it just police officers who commit murder, or murderers in general...or is it just anyone who commits a crime?
There’s no need to get so defensive, it’s simply trying to understand your point of view
posted on 21/4/21
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
posted on 21/4/21
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes your are correct
However:
‘Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorist actions’
So he may not have been convicted directly to these death, but he was definitely involved and responsible
Furthermore...Nelson Mandela IMO is regarded as one of the most inspirational human beings of the 20th Century
So, maybe it’s a good job he wasn’t convicted of the crimes mentioned above - otherwise he might have died still been ‘rotting in jail’
posted on 21/4/21
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think a fair few more across the globe (including Mandela himself) referred to him in his earlier days as a ‘terrorist’
Just interested to know what ‘StringerBell’ thought of him?
Should he have ‘rotted in jail’
posted on 21/4/21
his wife loved necklacing people
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 3 minutes ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Wee Stompy never stood a chance.
Winnie was some pup.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Just read this piece on him:
‘It is true Mandela rose to greatness. Freed after 27 years in a South African jail, the anti-apartheid fighter emerged not bent on vengeance but healing. He negotiated a peaceful end to apartheid, and as the first president of democratic South Africa, preached - and practised - reconciliation. In this he was great. A healer. An inspiration.
For many whites abroad, he seems even Christ-like - someone who'd suffered for the sins of white guilt, and absolved those who believed in him of the sin of racism.
But Mandela was no Christ nor even Gandhi nor Martin Luther King. He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - this involved binding the hands of a person and placing a car tyre around their neck - before setting it on fire‘
One wonders in years to come whether Officer Derek Chauvin will have done anything to warrant any kind of redemption, forgiveness, positive legacy
Or will the events of the past year be the destruction of his life
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Legally and technically, true.
How is SA doing now?
That apartheid was well bad.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 59 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.
Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?
3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was political to an extent because yeah he shouldn't be found guilty on all those charges but no biggy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The prosecution were able to prove all three charges beyond reasonable doubt, (which the jury upheld). So unclear why anyone would claim he shouldn't have been found guilty of them.
As with any case of this nature, multiple charges can be brought to increase chances of a conviction.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 31 minutes ago
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Evening.
Good to see the verdict last night as the cop was a wrong un.
Have you seen the Floyd rap sheet?
Did not deserve that death...or the praise about his Wonderful Life, imo.
posted on 21/4/21
The point being people can turn their lives around...and even the most deplorable and appalling situation can be turned into something positive with the right attitude, application and approach
It cannot be done overnight....and it wilt ale a lot of time and healing....but it can be done
It will be interesting to see how that pans out for Derek Chauvin - he will still has some major decisions to make
There’s hope for ALL people
posted on 21/4/21
But at this moment in time...it does look very bleak for Derek Chauvin
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