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THE GEORGE FLOYD CASE

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posted on 14/4/21

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
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Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
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Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
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Ioag excuse my ignorance but what consistutes as wrongful arrests? I’d like to read up on these if you have any material. Watching documentaries like making a murderer it always astounds me how corrupt it all is.
Is there records that show amount of people arrested and which were wrongful arrests and any stories similar?

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 29 minutes ago
merica lol
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Thank goodness that their scrawny, dentally challenged cousins across the pond are here to provide morally superior guidance
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americas dental is worse 2-0 now

posted on 14/4/21

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 43 minutes ago
There does seem to be an inclination in the US not to prosecute:

https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter
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For ‘inclination’ read ‘absolute determination to do everything possible’.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
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This has to be the most loaded question of all time. The fact that you have twice quoted how long since the abolishment of slavery suggests that your response is already typed.

Most crime is committed by black males because of Gangs. A lot of the time this is created with single mothers bringing up children without a father figure.if you have to ask why black people are stopped and searched then I would suggest that you are either thick or being provocative.

There are many reasons for it but I guess that doesn't fit your racist agenda
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Exactly

posted on 14/4/21

comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
They will convict him of murder and rightly so.

If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
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Agreed. Those new Nike Air Max's don't stay on the shelf for long

posted on 14/4/21

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
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Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
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No it’s not, but it also doesn’t excuse the fact that crime is still a crime irrespective of circumstances
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So why does 'just doing his job' excuse him?
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I never said it excused him, just like it shouldn’t also condemn him to 20 years in prison

He never meant to Lilongwe guys, just an over enthusiastic bully wearing a badge and uniform

Yes he should be judged in his actions...but not hung drawn and quartered before due process

posted on 14/4/21

He's not going to be hung, drawn and quartered.

He'll get up to 25 years in jail though.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it’s not, but it also doesn’t excuse the fact that crime is still a crime irrespective of circumstances
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why does 'just doing his job' excuse him?
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I never said it excused him, just like it shouldn’t also condemn him to 20 years in prison

He never meant to Lilongwe guys, just an over enthusiastic bully wearing a badge and uniform

Yes he should be judged in his actions...but not hung drawn and quartered before due process
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We can all be glad that he hasn’t actually been hung, drawn and quartered then.

Due process will see him behind bars. And I’m sure that he’ll have an absolutely lovely time in state penitentiary.

posted on 14/4/21

He never meant to intentionally kill the guy*

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 14/4/21

Nobody is condoning chauvin. He got heavy handed but didn't know that Floyd was under the influence. I don't think he was trying to kill the bloke

posted on 14/4/21

Not allowed to do anything these days eh lads?

posted on 14/4/21

Yeah well kneeling on a prone guys neck for nine minutes while is handcuffed behind his back is life threatening and that's why he's in court.

I dont think stupidity and recklessness is much of an excuse and I'm fairly sure the court will agree.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nobody is condoning chauvin. He got heavy handed but didn't know that Floyd was under the influence. I don't think he was trying to kill the bloke
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The defence is already positioning to claim that Chauvin acted as forcefully as he did because the officers recognised Floyd was under the influence and posed a threat to the public.

Third degree murder also does not require the determination of an intent to kill.

posted on 14/4/21

Personally, I think he’ll be convicted of 3rd degree murder - 10 years inside

posted on 14/4/21

I'd be amazed if he doesnt have his neck knelt on on several occasions during that time.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by rosso - can’t waste a day when the night brings a hearse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 43 minutes ago
There does seem to be an inclination in the US not to prosecute:

https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter
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For ‘inclination’ read ‘absolute determination to do everything possible’.
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posted on 14/4/21

The pathologist testimony last week, stated under cross examination, that after examining Floyd's autopsy and forensic history, his body had built up considerable resistance to fentanyl.

Which led him to conclude that the levels of fentanyl found in his system would not have contributed to his death, and his heart was reasonably healthy.

Unfortunately the follow up question, (,something along the lines of) would a perfectly healthy individual person, faced with the same levels of pressure on their neck, survive such an ordeal was successfully dissalowed by the defence.

Next up, Dr Nick Riviera. "Hi, everybody!"

posted on 14/4/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
He never meant to intentionally kill the guy*
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Which is why he will likely get second degree murder.

posted on 14/4/21

I do believe that DC did exactly what he was trained to do, and has been subsequently hung out to dry in what will essentially be a conviction out of political necessity.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 21 minutes ago
I do believe that DC did exactly what he was trained to do, and has been subsequently hung out to dry in what will essentially be a conviction out of political necessity.
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Bollox.

posted on 14/4/21

Oh come on Lambeau... 9 and half mins on a mans neck, whose in handcuffs and another 2 men on top of him.
He died after 6 mins, and yet there they stayed.
This is the training, when dealing with someone accused of passing a fake 20 dollar Bill.

Yet a guy can go shoot up a church and murder innocents and get taken for a burger.
That’s in their training manual too?

Hang him yes. Let him fry.

posted on 14/4/21

If I was DC I think I'd probably take the chair.

From getting shanked to bummed to having sugar and boiling water poured on him he's going to get it if he goes inside.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This has to be the most loaded question of all time. The fact that you have twice quoted how long since the abolishment of slavery suggests that your response is already typed.

Most crime is committed by black males because of Gangs. A lot of the time this is created with single mothers bringing up children without a father figure.if you have to ask why black people are stopped and searched then I would suggest that you are either thick or being provocative.

There are many reasons for it but I guess that doesn't fit your racist agenda
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What??

What a mess of a comment

posted on 14/4/21

Yes. American police are terribly trained, so I am fairly certain that the procedures he followed are consistent with what he would’ve been taught when learning how to deal with resistance and people under the influence.

Obviously he failed to apply common sense, which is why he will face a murder conviction, but I do believe the restraint procedure he followed was taught.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 37 seconds ago
Yes. American police are terribly trained, so I am fairly certain that the procedures he followed are consistent with what he would’ve been taught when learning how to deal with resistance and people under the influence.

Obviously he failed to apply common sense, which is why he will face a murder conviction, but I do believe the restraint procedure he followed was taught.
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You think all those people perjured themselves to cover up police training techniques that involve kneeling on a handcuffed mans neck for 9 minutes with three other officers were also there? That there's not a single whistle blower and as such, because they're trained to do that it was presumably happening every day?

Really?

Quite the Leap Lambeau.

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