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THE GEORGE FLOYD CASE

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posted on 14/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The evidence given against including everyone from his boss to the coroner hasn't gone well for him.

Good.
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The defence brought in an expert on restraint techniques yesterday, and was systematically and forensically taken apart by the prosecution.

The bodycam footage & and medical evidence has undermined their case, (so far) time and time again.

Although I understand historically there has been a real reluctance to prosecute police in the US.

posted on 14/4/21

As my dad always says ,........

"Gawd 'elp Americaaaa !"

It's so civilised living here .

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 20 minutes ago
If i was an American Policeman and a convicted felon was resisting arrest, id take any force necessary.

But thats just my opinion.
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Good thing you aren't then.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The evidence given against including everyone from his boss to the coroner hasn't gone well for him.

Good.
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The defence brought in an expert on restraint techniques yesterday, and was systematically and forensically taken apart by the prosecution.

The bodycam footage & and medical evidence has undermined their case, (so far) time and time again.

Although I understand historically there has been a real reluctance to prosecute police in the US.
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I haven't followed the defence this week but when your own boss is saying that they are absolutely not trained to do that in any way shape or form to a handcuffed man and three medical experts said it's that which was the overriding factor in his death... yeah he's going to the big house.

I dont envy him that's for sure.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
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Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
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Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?

posted on 14/4/21

My fear in this case, is that all it takes is for one, just 1 Juror to say not guilty. Cos of reasonable doubt.
Although yesterday’s defence witnesses did more harm than anything else.
This Brood guy was so disingenuous, playing with words to try back Chauvin.
As a lawyer said, you don’t have to WIN everytime you answer a question.. the fact he got pedantic about saying the words ‘On Top’ isn’t a good look to the jurors, cos in the end he ended having to say the words.
But he got made to look like a fool, hope it continues.

A little thing though, just what in the hell is Chauvin writing. I don’t think for a minute Nelson even bothers to look at his notes.
I think he’s logging stuff, thinking of a book deal to come later down the line...

posted on 14/4/21

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
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What do they say to me?

That a lot of black people are involved in crime?

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
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Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
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No it’s not, but it also doesn’t excuse the fact that crime is still a crime irrespective of circumstances

posted on 14/4/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do they say to me?

That a lot of black people are involved in crime?
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You need to take a few steps back at look at the bigger picture.

Due to inequality black people have suffered across every walk of life (schools, jobs, etc) and the lack of privilege they get causes poorer communities, poorer parents that don't have the money to look after their children, don't go to nice schools and therefore end up in gangs, committing crimes just to survive.

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 14/4/21

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


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They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
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This has to be the most loaded question of all time. The fact that you have twice quoted how long since the abolishment of slavery suggests that your response is already typed.

Most crime is committed by black males because of Gangs. A lot of the time this is created with single mothers bringing up children without a father figure.if you have to ask why black people are stopped and searched then I would suggest that you are either thick or being provocative.

There are many reasons for it but I guess that doesn't fit your racist agenda

posted on 14/4/21

The link between poverty and crime is so strong, and been proven so many times, people sound a bit of a d!ck saying otherwise really.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.

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How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
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Are you saying the law cannot be wrong?
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Dangerous path to go down if you want to start picking and choosing which laws are right and wrong during a trial.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why don't you try answering the question. Why, in your opinion, are black populations 150 years after slavery was abolished, still (among) the most marginalised in the country?

And those statistics, that you say speak for themselves, what do they say to you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do they say to me?

That a lot of black people are involved in crime?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to take a few steps back at look at the bigger picture.

Due to inequality black people have suffered across every walk of life (schools, jobs, etc) and the lack of privilege they get causes poorer communities, poorer parents that don't have the money to look after their children, don't go to nice schools and therefore end up in gangs, committing crimes just to survive.
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And presumably the non black people in those communities thrive and climb to the top? Or maybe it's just a fact of life that poorer communities will see more crime.

posted on 14/4/21

The second degree murder charge is 'unintentional murder' so shouldn't be too hard to make stick.

I would be surprised he isn't charged to the max.

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)

posted on 14/4/21

He should be given the lethal injection for what he done not only to the man he murdered but for causing all the mayhem that came after it

posted on 14/4/21

Calling it murder is where it gets silly. Does anyone really believe he intended to kill him in front of loads of witnesses? Just another moronic cop thinking he is king of the world.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 1 minute ago
He should be given the lethal injection for what he done not only to the man he murdered but for causing all the mayhem that came after it
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Oh I think I'd rather see a copper who murdered a handcuffed black man in broad daylight do some time inside myself. It'll be a nightmare for him.

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)

posted on 14/4/21

Calling it murder is where it gets silly. Does anyone really believe he intended to kill him in front of loads of witnesses?

yes because they get away with it frequently over there

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 2 minutes ago
Calling it murder is where it gets silly. Does anyone really believe he intended to kill him in front of loads of witnesses?

yes because they get away with it frequently over there
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They don't though do they

posted on 14/4/21

Fiftieth arrest this week Derek so you had better kill the next one, we need all the extra paperwork

posted on 14/4/21

I read the latest guy killed by Police around there was because she used her gun when she thought it was a taser.

I can't even work that out.

posted on 14/4/21

There does seem to be an inclination in the US not to prosecute:

https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 35 minutes ago
Calling it murder is where it gets silly. Does anyone really believe he intended to kill him in front of loads of witnesses?

yes because they get away with it frequently over there
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So if I shot and killed someone, a good defence would be that I only meant to hit his kneecap, but I'm a terrible shot.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 26 minutes ago
I read the latest guy killed by Police around there was because she used her gun when she thought it was a taser.

I can't even work that out.
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She obviously can't work under that pressure and the incident needs to be investigated. You can't have the old bill not knowing the difference between a taser and gun ffs.

Saying that, if the lad acted in the right way he would still be alive. There is no question that his actions leading up to the accident caused his demise. You see it over and over again in the States. Some of these guys who get pulled over must have a death wish. I can't work it out.

posted on 14/4/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------

Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.

Why do you think that is?


----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it’s not, but it also doesn’t excuse the fact that crime is still a crime irrespective of circumstances
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So why does 'just doing his job' excuse him?

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