Taking the knee wins a majority from Wales fans(+16% by 53-37), England(+15% on 54-39) and Scotland(+7 from 49-42).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3lgvGQXoAQvAYU?format=png&name=900x900
Always knew the Dutch were racists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGCh5lU2O5k
The abuse a BLACK player received for not taking the knee.Also note what he says about why white players cannot do anything other than take the knee.
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
“ And the supporters groups and others have made it clear why the fans disagree with the gesture. Just because thats the player's understanding of the gesture doesn't make it the nation's understanding of it.“
It’s great you speaking for the nation and everything however it’s the minority who boo supposed understanding not the nation.
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How do you know?
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Go on, I’m up for a laugh. Tell us the nations understanding of players kneeling.
The people booing are obviously dissatisfied with kneeling. Despite the players being quite clear why they are doing it. Those are the ones that this statement applies to;
“ Just because thats the player's understanding of the gesture doesn't make it the nation's understanding of it.“
How do you know what the nations understanding is?
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Ok replace "nation" with "whole nation" in my post. Now you go
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Don’t think anyone claimed it was the whole nations understanding.
You can safely say that it’s not the understanding of those who boo. Because they are making that clear through their actions.
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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This is going round in circles. The players can say what they like about the gesture, as can the fans.
The players have a platform, the fans don't
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And?
Question in the OP isn’t whether the fans should boo or not. It’s whether the players, the ones who experience racist abuse regularly, should stop a form of protest against racism.
A side issue of that is certain fans constantly misinterpreting that protest despite plenty of info being available explaining why it’s taking place. So constant it’s starting to look like the misinterpretation is intentional.
Which opinion to believe, the players who have been consistent in their reasons, or certain fans who constantly get it wrong, conflate and engage in whataboutery?
THE PROTEST IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLM ORGANISATION
Why are they even being discussed here?
It’s like arguing that the Union Flag shouldn’t be flown because it’s a symbol associated with the far right, or that anyone who wears a beret is a revolutionary, or that anyone seen eating quinoa must be a vegan.
(OK, that last one is probably true.)
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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I do kinda feel sorry for them because you can clearly see the agenda being pushed daily, by right wing papers then these guys come out with the exact same cra.p that they have just read, without understanding what they're saying or even understanding why they are angry.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
“ It's a battle to keep it that way. Identity politics, populism etc. That's not really what we're about.”
You do know who is our current PM and how he got there don’t you?
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I agree. Politics in this country is being driven by what happens across the pond.
It should be called out. I'm in no way saying it's right.
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In other words we share similar politics with the US.
We got there eventually
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You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits.
There are huge differences in how we and the Americans conduct our politics.
We should do our best to distance ourselves from it when it rears it's head.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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I do kinda feel sorry for them because you can clearly see the agenda being pushed daily, by right wing papers then these guys come out with the exact same cra.p that they have just read, without understanding what they're saying or even understanding why they are angry.
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definitely, that same sleepy apathy led to the Brexit vote and doomed future generations to a less enriched life all because of a con job that benefited a very small amount of people.
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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Group circle jerk?
Only joking before any of the offended masses wets their panties
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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i'm pretty sure whatever they do will be met with boo's and more racism.....people will just change the goalpost of excuses to beat them down with imo.
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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Why appease the racists and hard of understanding? Seems counterproductive to the point of protesting in the first place.
Protest racism in a way that won’t upset the racists and those unable to understand why it’s happening
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
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The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
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Ah when I said RECENT major conflicts you assume I’m talking about WW2
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
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The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
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The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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It’s not those protesting creating division. They have been very clear about their reasons and have even stated it’s nothing to do with politics and the wider debate around racism, BLM etc.
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 40 seconds ago
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
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We don’t share political ideals with the US apparently
G7: UK and US have an 'indestructible relationship', PM says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57436035
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
comment by The Arteta, The (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 9 minutes ago
what is ironic is if you actually look online, a good percentage of all racial abuse actually comes from black people anyway.
angry africans are by far the worst
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A good percentage? How high a percentage?
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81.67% at a rough guess
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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posted on 11/6/21
Taking the knee wins a majority from Wales fans(+16% by 53-37), England(+15% on 54-39) and Scotland(+7 from 49-42).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3lgvGQXoAQvAYU?format=png&name=900x900
Always knew the Dutch were racists
posted on 11/6/21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGCh5lU2O5k
The abuse a BLACK player received for not taking the knee.Also note what he says about why white players cannot do anything other than take the knee.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
“ And the supporters groups and others have made it clear why the fans disagree with the gesture. Just because thats the player's understanding of the gesture doesn't make it the nation's understanding of it.“
It’s great you speaking for the nation and everything however it’s the minority who boo supposed understanding not the nation.
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How do you know?
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Go on, I’m up for a laugh. Tell us the nations understanding of players kneeling.
The people booing are obviously dissatisfied with kneeling. Despite the players being quite clear why they are doing it. Those are the ones that this statement applies to;
“ Just because thats the player's understanding of the gesture doesn't make it the nation's understanding of it.“
How do you know what the nations understanding is?
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Ok replace "nation" with "whole nation" in my post. Now you go
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Don’t think anyone claimed it was the whole nations understanding.
You can safely say that it’s not the understanding of those who boo. Because they are making that clear through their actions.
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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This is going round in circles. The players can say what they like about the gesture, as can the fans.
The players have a platform, the fans don't
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And?
Question in the OP isn’t whether the fans should boo or not. It’s whether the players, the ones who experience racist abuse regularly, should stop a form of protest against racism.
A side issue of that is certain fans constantly misinterpreting that protest despite plenty of info being available explaining why it’s taking place. So constant it’s starting to look like the misinterpretation is intentional.
Which opinion to believe, the players who have been consistent in their reasons, or certain fans who constantly get it wrong, conflate and engage in whataboutery?
posted on 11/6/21
THE PROTEST IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLM ORGANISATION
Why are they even being discussed here?
It’s like arguing that the Union Flag shouldn’t be flown because it’s a symbol associated with the far right, or that anyone who wears a beret is a revolutionary, or that anyone seen eating quinoa must be a vegan.
(OK, that last one is probably true.)
posted on 11/6/21
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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I do kinda feel sorry for them because you can clearly see the agenda being pushed daily, by right wing papers then these guys come out with the exact same cra.p that they have just read, without understanding what they're saying or even understanding why they are angry.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
“ It's a battle to keep it that way. Identity politics, populism etc. That's not really what we're about.”
You do know who is our current PM and how he got there don’t you?
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I agree. Politics in this country is being driven by what happens across the pond.
It should be called out. I'm in no way saying it's right.
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In other words we share similar politics with the US.
We got there eventually
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You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits.
There are huge differences in how we and the Americans conduct our politics.
We should do our best to distance ourselves from it when it rears it's head.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
The players have made it clear it’s not about politics, it’s about the racist abuse they and their team mates keep enduring whilst doing their jobs.
You’re going to keep telling them they’re wrong and the protest they are performing isn’t what what they say it is but instead about something else that serves to make you angry.
Yeah ok then
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I do kinda feel sorry for them because you can clearly see the agenda being pushed daily, by right wing papers then these guys come out with the exact same cra.p that they have just read, without understanding what they're saying or even understanding why they are angry.
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definitely, that same sleepy apathy led to the Brexit vote and doomed future generations to a less enriched life all because of a con job that benefited a very small amount of people.
posted on 11/6/21
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
posted on 11/6/21
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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Group circle jerk?
Only joking before any of the offended masses wets their panties
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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i'm pretty sure whatever they do will be met with boo's and more racism.....people will just change the goalpost of excuses to beat them down with imo.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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Why appease the racists and hard of understanding? Seems counterproductive to the point of protesting in the first place.
Protest racism in a way that won’t upset the racists and those unable to understand why it’s happening
posted on 11/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
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The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
posted on 11/6/21
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
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Ah when I said RECENT major conflicts you assume I’m talking about WW2
posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 34 seconds ago
we need to do something else now i think
it was a great gesture to begin with but it seems to be encouraging more racism
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I don't think it causes people to suddenly become racist,but on the flip side I cannot see it making a racist suddenly become a non racist.
It has caused division,which is what BLM actually want apparently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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It’s not those protesting creating division. They have been very clear about their reasons and have even stated it’s nothing to do with politics and the wider debate around racism, BLM etc.
posted on 11/6/21
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 40 seconds ago
The division was always there, it's just that one side have been silently taking it for a long time. They/we are now calling it out for what it is because it's fecking 2021 and it has to stop, but obviously that's going to upset people who like things the way they are/were..
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So the answer is to cause greater division to get people to come together in a shared goal to eradicate racism.
Great idea that will be 100% foolproof
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WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 57 seconds ago
South side
“ You're obviously more comfortable with the idea that we share similar politics and ideas with America. That's fine. It fits”.
Point me to where I’ve said I’m comfortable with it?
Politically we are very similar, hence the idea of western democracy predominantly including both nations and both nations being seen as allies in recent major conflicts. This is a fact.
You claimed we don’t share political ideals with the US. This is proven to be not true. Our current PM is Trump light FFS
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He has pulled some one liners out of the bag tbf.
We had many allies in the Second World War. All country's with many different cultures and very different ideas and politics.
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We don’t share political ideals with the US apparently
G7: UK and US have an 'indestructible relationship', PM says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57436035
posted on 11/6/21
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
posted on 11/6/21
comment by The Arteta, The (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 9 minutes ago
what is ironic is if you actually look online, a good percentage of all racial abuse actually comes from black people anyway.
angry africans are by far the worst
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A good percentage? How high a percentage?
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81.67% at a rough guess
posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
posted on 11/6/21
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