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comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
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When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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Do u subscribe or regularly read the Daily mail or The Sun by any chance?
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No
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
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When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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What makes BLM a Marxist movement?
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
Fun fact, the US police budget would rank as the third highest military budget in the world.
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fun fact, the US police budget would rank as the third highest military budget in the world.
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But if you say they don't need that much money and some of it could\should go to social care, mental health workers etc... you get tarnished with wanting to defund and abolish the police force , can't win.
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Black Lives Matter today
It’s important to recognize that movements evolve.
Noting Cullors’ declaration of being Marxist trained, "one has to take that seriously: if the leadership says it is Marxist, then there's a good chance they are," said Russell Berman, a professor at Stanford University and a senior fellow at its conservative Hoover Institution who has written critically about Marxism.
But "this does not mean every supporter is Marxist — Marxists often have used ‘useful idiots.’ And a Marxist movement can be more or less radical, at different points in time," he said.
I wonder how many useful idiots they've recruited so far?
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
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When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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What makes BLM a Marxist movement?
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
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Did you actually read that?
“ In a recently surfaced 2015 interview, one of the three Black Lives Matter co-founders declared that she and another co-founder "are trained Marxists."
But the movement has grown and broadened dramatically. Many Americans, few of whom would identify as Marxists, support Black Lives Matter, drawn to its message of anti-racism.
"Regardless of whatever the professed politics of people may be who are prominent in the movement, they don’t represent its breadth," said Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, Princeton University African American Studies professor and author of "From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation."
"There are definitely socialists within the movement, as there have been in every single social movement in 20th century American history and today. But that does not make those socialist movements, it makes them mass movements," she said.”
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
Black Lives Matter today
It’s important to recognize that movements evolve.
Noting Cullors’ declaration of being Marxist trained, "one has to take that seriously: if the leadership says it is Marxist, then there's a good chance they are," said Russell Berman, a professor at Stanford University and a senior fellow at its conservative Hoover Institution who has written critically about Marxism.
But "this does not mean every supporter is Marxist — Marxists often have used ‘useful idiots.’ And a Marxist movement can be more or less radical, at different points in time," he said.
I wonder how many useful idiots they've recruited so far?
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I don’t think you can generalise an entire movement as being Marxist off the back of two of the 3 leaders saying that’s their political beliefs years ago.
There is only one belief of theirs that could be linked to Marxism. The comments about nuclear family.
This about sums it up
“ On one level, these are just put downs," University of Massachusetts Amherst economics professor Richard Wolff, author of "Understanding Marxism," told PolitiFact about the attacks on Black Lives Matter.
If people declare themselves Marxists, they are in effect Marxists, but "there really is no standard" of what Marxism is, "there’s no way to verify anything."
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Yeah, I probably do. Although I do seem to understand alternative view points and know when something isn't working.
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From the lad that lost his rag and started calling people peeedo’s in a debate
Yeah ok then
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posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
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It's actually getting ridiculous how many times people have to say this...
It's actually mad.
People are talking about it like players not wanting to be racially abused is the same as arguing over NHS funding or tax increases.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
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It's actually getting ridiculous how many times people have to say this...
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I assume kick it out faced the same accusations in the early days. Look how far we’ve come
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's actually mad.
People are talking about it like players not wanting to be racially abused is the same as arguing over NHS funding or tax increases.
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it's baffling to me.
I have a teenage nephew and I asked him about what he thought of taking the knee. He said the general view of everyone he knew what that it's a good thing and the booing is just seen as middle aged racists.
Have to say it stung a little to have my generation categorised as such but in fairness, I probably wrote off my parents generation in much the same way when I was his age.
It would be interesting to see if the assumption is right though, whether younger people support and it's older people who object to it.
FWIW, if 11 footballers want to take the knee to show support for equality then I have absolutely no objections. It's their right and I personally support that.
I'm firmly in the secret opinion #3 category of don't give af either way.
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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Yeah, I probably do. Although I do seem to understand alternative view points and know when something isn't working.
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From the lad that lost his rag and started calling people peeedo’s in a debate
Yeah ok then
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That is such a lie. 😂😂 Desperate.com
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Which bit is incorrect?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Bolloxs, brexiteers were forever being branded racists, the likes of Hector and Sizzle were but 2.
I was all for getting rid of the knee stuff as it just seemed like an empty message after the first few times it happened.
But ironically, the booing has brought the issue back into the limelight. Let's see where it goes now.
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 7 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 5 seconds ago
Of course BLM is a divisive political movement. It’s supposed to be. It’s combating the very concept that institutional racism doesn’t exist when there is so much evidence that it does. Funnily enough, people don’t like being told that the very foundations on which their society is built is unfairly balanced towards one set of people. So let it be divisive and hopefully enough people wake up to the idea that something needs to change to help people who would be left to suffer if the people who are ignorant to the realities of the world are allowed to meander into apathy.
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Just a happy co-incident that the founders are all trained marxists and have set BLM goals that align with a Marxist approach of undermining the West then.
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Yeah, you really misunderstand the whole idea of what they stand for.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
This is your friend ^^
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So to summarise, yes the founders are Marxists
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BLM Founders living in x million dollar mansions surely can't be Marxists ... Perhaps opportunists at worst.
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Bolloxs, brexiteers were forever being branded racists, the likes of Hector and Sizzle were but 2.
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Just look at the same article on the Tottenham board almost everyone sympathetic to the booing was called a racist...100s of examples in that particular thread... Anyone not following the woke way is racist, so much so the word has completely lost its potency.
As I awoke one morning,
when all new things are born,a robin perched upon my sill,to greet the coming dawn,
I arose and listened for a while,
and then slipping from my bed,
I slowly closed the window,
and crushed it's f'kin head .
Sorry about that lads,I love robins,but can't stand f'kin wokes !
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posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
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When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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Do u subscribe or regularly read the Daily mail or The Sun by any chance?
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No
posted on 11/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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What makes BLM a Marxist movement?
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
posted on 11/6/21
Fun fact, the US police budget would rank as the third highest military budget in the world.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fun fact, the US police budget would rank as the third highest military budget in the world.
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But if you say they don't need that much money and some of it could\should go to social care, mental health workers etc... you get tarnished with wanting to defund and abolish the police force , can't win.
posted on 11/6/21
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posted on 11/6/21
Black Lives Matter today
It’s important to recognize that movements evolve.
Noting Cullors’ declaration of being Marxist trained, "one has to take that seriously: if the leadership says it is Marxist, then there's a good chance they are," said Russell Berman, a professor at Stanford University and a senior fellow at its conservative Hoover Institution who has written critically about Marxism.
But "this does not mean every supporter is Marxist — Marxists often have used ‘useful idiots.’ And a Marxist movement can be more or less radical, at different points in time," he said.
I wonder how many useful idiots they've recruited so far?
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 2 minutes ago
See my answer above.You assume they boo because of the message I say they boo due to the increasing politics in sport.
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You said increasing politics in sport. I replied with examples of politics in sport. Now only where it takes place matters? You're moving the goalposts...
All of my examples were politics in sports, why is the stadium the only bit that matters? It's still sportspeople involved in political matters (or politicians involved in sporting matters!). Why is kneeling the hill to die on?
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When it is done in arena's then it give's those in the crowd who disagree with bringing politics into the stadium the platform to disagree.
Easiest way to show their disapproval is to boo,taking the knee is associated with the Marxist BLM movement and a lot of people aren't in favour of defunding the police and their other policies.
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What makes BLM a Marxist movement?
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
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Did you actually read that?
“ In a recently surfaced 2015 interview, one of the three Black Lives Matter co-founders declared that she and another co-founder "are trained Marxists."
But the movement has grown and broadened dramatically. Many Americans, few of whom would identify as Marxists, support Black Lives Matter, drawn to its message of anti-racism.
"Regardless of whatever the professed politics of people may be who are prominent in the movement, they don’t represent its breadth," said Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, Princeton University African American Studies professor and author of "From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation."
"There are definitely socialists within the movement, as there have been in every single social movement in 20th century American history and today. But that does not make those socialist movements, it makes them mass movements," she said.”
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
posted on 11/6/21
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posted on 11/6/21
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
Black Lives Matter today
It’s important to recognize that movements evolve.
Noting Cullors’ declaration of being Marxist trained, "one has to take that seriously: if the leadership says it is Marxist, then there's a good chance they are," said Russell Berman, a professor at Stanford University and a senior fellow at its conservative Hoover Institution who has written critically about Marxism.
But "this does not mean every supporter is Marxist — Marxists often have used ‘useful idiots.’ And a Marxist movement can be more or less radical, at different points in time," he said.
I wonder how many useful idiots they've recruited so far?
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I don’t think you can generalise an entire movement as being Marxist off the back of two of the 3 leaders saying that’s their political beliefs years ago.
There is only one belief of theirs that could be linked to Marxism. The comments about nuclear family.
This about sums it up
“ On one level, these are just put downs," University of Massachusetts Amherst economics professor Richard Wolff, author of "Understanding Marxism," told PolitiFact about the attacks on Black Lives Matter.
If people declare themselves Marxists, they are in effect Marxists, but "there really is no standard" of what Marxism is, "there’s no way to verify anything."
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Yeah, I probably do. Although I do seem to understand alternative view points and know when something isn't working.
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From the lad that lost his rag and started calling people peeedo’s in a debate
Yeah ok then
posted on 11/6/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
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It's actually getting ridiculous how many times people have to say this...
posted on 11/6/21
It's actually mad.
People are talking about it like players not wanting to be racially abused is the same as arguing over NHS funding or tax increases.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
WTF are you on about? As i said the only 'divisions happening now are people who want to continue to be racist and people who don't. There's no non-divisive way around it, it's impossible.
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Is it that black and white in your eyes.If you agree with kneeling you are a good guy/girl,if you boo or disagree you are a racist.
That's a very simplistic view and a very dangerous one in my opinion.
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Your adding 2+2 and getting 8.
It's very simple, if you agree or disagree with the kneeling, that's up to you, no one (only you) said that it makes you a good or bad person BUT, if you boo the kneeling then you are showing disdain for the message they are portraying. Understand?
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Showing disdain and not being a racist then.That's fair enough.
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what would you call someone who has disdain for an anti-racism message?
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You look at it as disdain for the message,some see it as disdain for politicising sport.
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Wanting equality and to not be racially abused for playing a game of football is not "politicising sport" ffs.
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It's actually getting ridiculous how many times people have to say this...
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I assume kick it out faced the same accusations in the early days. Look how far we’ve come
posted on 11/6/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's actually mad.
People are talking about it like players not wanting to be racially abused is the same as arguing over NHS funding or tax increases.
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it's baffling to me.
posted on 11/6/21
I have a teenage nephew and I asked him about what he thought of taking the knee. He said the general view of everyone he knew what that it's a good thing and the booing is just seen as middle aged racists.
Have to say it stung a little to have my generation categorised as such but in fairness, I probably wrote off my parents generation in much the same way when I was his age.
It would be interesting to see if the assumption is right though, whether younger people support and it's older people who object to it.
FWIW, if 11 footballers want to take the knee to show support for equality then I have absolutely no objections. It's their right and I personally support that.
posted on 11/6/21
I'm firmly in the secret opinion #3 category of don't give af either way.
posted on 11/6/21
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posted on 11/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Yeah, I probably do. Although I do seem to understand alternative view points and know when something isn't working.
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From the lad that lost his rag and started calling people peeedo’s in a debate
Yeah ok then
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That is such a lie. 😂😂 Desperate.com
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Which bit is incorrect?
posted on 11/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Bolloxs, brexiteers were forever being branded racists, the likes of Hector and Sizzle were but 2.
posted on 11/6/21
I was all for getting rid of the knee stuff as it just seemed like an empty message after the first few times it happened.
But ironically, the booing has brought the issue back into the limelight. Let's see where it goes now.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 7 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 5 seconds ago
Of course BLM is a divisive political movement. It’s supposed to be. It’s combating the very concept that institutional racism doesn’t exist when there is so much evidence that it does. Funnily enough, people don’t like being told that the very foundations on which their society is built is unfairly balanced towards one set of people. So let it be divisive and hopefully enough people wake up to the idea that something needs to change to help people who would be left to suffer if the people who are ignorant to the realities of the world are allowed to meander into apathy.
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Just a happy co-incident that the founders are all trained marxists and have set BLM goals that align with a Marxist approach of undermining the West then.
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Yeah, you really misunderstand the whole idea of what they stand for.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
This is your friend ^^
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So to summarise, yes the founders are Marxists
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BLM Founders living in x million dollar mansions surely can't be Marxists ... Perhaps opportunists at worst.
posted on 11/6/21
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quite telling how the voting on here has gone.
Reminds me of Brexit. People screaming racist at people when they don't agree.
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Think I’ve seen one poster do that. You still have trouble comprehending I see
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Bolloxs, brexiteers were forever being branded racists, the likes of Hector and Sizzle were but 2.
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Just look at the same article on the Tottenham board almost everyone sympathetic to the booing was called a racist...100s of examples in that particular thread... Anyone not following the woke way is racist, so much so the word has completely lost its potency.
posted on 11/6/21
As I awoke one morning,
when all new things are born,a robin perched upon my sill,to greet the coming dawn,
I arose and listened for a while,
and then slipping from my bed,
I slowly closed the window,
and crushed it's f'kin head .
Sorry about that lads,I love robins,but can't stand f'kin wokes !
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