comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
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This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
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Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
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The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
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The problem is that attitude is also used for the first team coaches.

comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
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The drama is in the performances, or lack of.

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
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I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
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It's hard to imagine it any other way.
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No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The drama is in the performances, or lack of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you looking for N2. Win every game?

Or play champagne football and draw 3-3 every game? You'd be crying like a girl if that was the case as well.

So, champagne football and win every match, or N2 not a happy bunny.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
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It's hard to imagine it any other way.
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No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

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You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine it any other way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is a round table affair, and that Ole will h have the main say.
I gather you think somebody else appoints them and tells Ole after.

Tbf this is going round in circles because we have different opinions. Of course my opinions have far more value. 👍

comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The drama is in the performances, or lack of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you looking for N2. Win every game?

Or play champagne football and draw 3-3 every game? You'd be crying like a girl if that was the case as well.

So, champagne football and win every match, or N2 not a happy bunny.
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This is the delusion I'm talking about. We didn't win against Wolves because we played defensive Joseball. We won because they don't have a player to put one of their chances in the net. There was nothing calculated about us being all over the place.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine it any other way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is a round table affair, and that Ole will h have the main say.
I gather you think somebody else appoints them and tells Ole after.

Tbf this is going round in circles because we have different opinions. Of course my opinions have far more value. 👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why would Ole have the main say on academy and youth coaches / staff when we have football / technical directors and an academy head ?

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine it any other way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is a round table affair, and that Ole will h have the main say.
I gather you think somebody else appoints them and tells Ole after.

Tbf this is going round in circles because we have different opinions. Of course my opinions have far more value. 👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why would Ole have the main say on academy and youth coaches / staff when we have football / technical directors and an academy head ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because they work hand in glove with the club manager.
Can I ask, do you think this done by the people you say, and handed to Ole as a present?

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The drama is in the performances, or lack of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you looking for N2. Win every game?

Or play champagne football and draw 3-3 every game? You'd be crying like a girl if that was the case as well.

So, champagne football and win every match, or N2 not a happy bunny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the delusion I'm talking about. We didn't win against Wolves because we played defensive Joseball. We won because they don't have a player to put one of their chances in the net. There was nothing calculated about us being all over the place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What delusion? We were out of this world against Leeds, OK at times against Southampton and poor against Wolves, but we've got 10 points out of 12, like good teams do when they don't play well.

I don't understand what you get out of supporting United, its certainly not any fun.

comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 1 second ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The drama is in the performances, or lack of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you looking for N2. Win every game?

Or play champagne football and draw 3-3 every game? You'd be crying like a girl if that was the case as well.

So, champagne football and win every match, or N2 not a happy bunny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the delusion I'm talking about. We didn't win against Wolves because we played defensive Joseball. We won because they don't have a player to put one of their chances in the net. There was nothing calculated about us being all over the place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What delusion? We were out of this world against Leeds, OK at times against Southampton and poor against Wolves, but we've got 10 points out of 12, like good teams do when they don't play well.

I don't understand what you get out of supporting United, its certainly not any fun.
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Ha ha, jumping the gun before Saturday (my bad if we lose now)

7 out of 9

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine it any other way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is a round table affair, and that Ole will h have the main say.
I gather you think somebody else appoints them and tells Ole after.

Tbf this is going round in circles because we have different opinions. Of course my opinions have far more value. 👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why would Ole have the main say on academy and youth coaches / staff when we have football / technical directors and an academy head ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because they work hand in glove with the club manager.
Can I ask, do you think this done by the people you say, and handed to Ole as a present?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Club manager ?

What do the Academy and U23’s teams / set ups have to do it’s Oles job of coaching and managing the senior squad?

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
"I haven't forgotten anything. Nor have I given Ole sole credit for the youth setup. It is a joint effort"

reply:
" the club haven't given him full control—they're working as a team."

Am I missing something here?

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It's just the way Elvis sometimes talks about it like Ole is a manager and DoF applying expert changes across the club.
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Examples?
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You always say Ole did this, Ole did that, when it comes to changes at the club. Probably best to stick to saying the club made these changes.
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Show me some examples then. As I've said the opposite earlier and yoy read what you wanted and made a t!T of yourself.
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I don't want to trawl through 100s of comments. I'll just let you know the next time you do it.

The whole reason you're having this debate with the OP again is because you often give the impression that Ole's job is broader than it is.
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No mate. You just don't read what people type. You read what you want to read. You're a repeat offender.

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem is that attitude is also used for the first team coaches.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What attitude?

comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 minutes ago
Even thoug Ole said this?

"They all know what the club is about and what I’m about. They are great people for me to bring in."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is another problem. Sounds like he doesn't want anyone that could rock the boat a bit. Would explain why we haven't appointed a top coach who could improve things, and went for another rookie instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't the u23s get promoted? Is that a problem?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The first team's third in the PL with two wins and a draw. This is eating them up. Where's the drama in that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The drama is in the performances, or lack of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you looking for N2. Win every game?

Or play champagne football and draw 3-3 every game? You'd be crying like a girl if that was the case as well.

So, champagne football and win every match, or N2 not a happy bunny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the delusion I'm talking about. We didn't win against Wolves because we played defensive Joseball. We won because they don't have a player to put one of their chances in the net. There was nothing calculated about us being all over the place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What delusion? We were out of this world against Leeds, OK at times against Southampton and poor against Wolves, but we've got 10 points out of 12, like good teams do when they don't play well.

I don't understand what you get out of supporting United, its certainly not any fun.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

10 points from 3 fixtures. Come on. Even for an Ole fan that’s pushing it.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Manaldo (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
"I haven't forgotten anything. Nor have I given Ole sole credit for the youth setup. It is a joint effort"

reply:
" the club haven't given him full control—they're working as a team."

Am I missing something here?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's just the way Elvis sometimes talks about it like Ole is a manager and DoF applying expert changes across the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Examples?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You always say Ole did this, Ole did that, when it comes to changes at the club. Probably best to stick to saying the club made these changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Show me some examples then. As I've said the opposite earlier and yoy read what you wanted and made a t!T of yourself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't want to trawl through 100s of comments. I'll just let you know the next time you do it.

The whole reason you're having this debate with the OP again is because you often give the impression that Ole's job is broader than it is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No mate. You just don't read what people type. You read what you want to read. You're a repeat offender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Elvis, You do overstate what Ole’s involvement is within the club. Go and have a look at some of your posts.

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
If you think the club just appoint coaches, youth coaches etc and say 'there you go Ole, here's your staff' you are creating an argument against Ole you must know isn't true.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think Ole picks his staff.

I think the academy and reserves people select their staff. Not Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hard to imagine it any other way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's dead easy, and obvious, and the right thing to do

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You think Ole appoints the staff for the academy and reserves?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is a round table affair, and that Ole will h have the main say.
I gather you think somebody else appoints them and tells Ole after.

Tbf this is going round in circles because we have different opinions. Of course my opinions have far more value. 👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why would Ole have the main say on academy and youth coaches / staff when we have football / technical directors and an academy head ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because they work hand in glove with the club manager.
Can I ask, do you think this done by the people you say, and handed to Ole as a present?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Club manager ?

What do the Academy and U23’s teams / set ups have to do it’s Oles job of coaching and managing the senior squad?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is he not the club manager? And the answer to my question?

Elvis, You do overstate what Ole’s involvement is within the club. Go and have a look at some of your posts.
—————

Why should he? That’s Solskjær’s job.

The club website always refer to him as the boss

comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
Elvis, You do overstate what Ole’s involvement is within the club. Go and have a look at some of your posts.
—————

Why should he? That’s Solskjær’s job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s Oles Jon to review Elvis past posts?

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
The club website always refer to him as the boss
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He is the first team manager. He manages the first team, not the reserves, or the academy, or the women’s team.

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
The club website always refer to him as the boss
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He is the first team manager. He manages the first team, not the reserves, or the academy, or the women’s team.
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The club website always refer to him as the boss

Still the question remains,

Do you think others appoint the staff for the youth and under 23 teams, and then say,. Here you are Ole?