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posted on 7/4/22

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Great first step for us if he does come in, but he needs to be backed now with ins and outs, no more square pegs for round holes.
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No reason to think he wont be.

Henderson, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Pogba, Mata, Lingard, Martial, Cavani, Ronaldo could all go, meaning we should be looking at bringing 4 in.

A CB, DM, CM and CF and ETH would have a great spine of his own to build on.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 31 minutes ago
It has been statistically demonstrated that DDG is right at the worst end of the spectrum for goalkeepers when it comes to distribution. He's also far from elite in just about every metric apart from shot stopping (though let's not forget he has had a number of wobbles in that department over the years). His deficiencies (distribution and reluctance to come out of the box) are one of the factors contributing to the fact that our defence spends too much time under pressure.
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On this hill I will die. His lack of proactive goalkeeping is a big part of the problem.
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its a part of the bigger problem.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
Our fans love to write off our players.

DDG, Shaw, Dalot, Fred, even Bruno, all maligned by our fans, despite being our best players.

Madness
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Dalot is one of our best players?

De Gea is a great goal keeper in his own right. But it's pretty obvious that he isn't really cut out to be thr type of keeper we need him to be.

If Pep or Klopp joined us tomorrow, one of the first things they'd do is replace De Gea. Guarantee it. Be interesting to see if ETH does the same.

posted on 7/4/22

We need to replicate the Spurs model.
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Isn’t that what we’ve been doing? Five years without a trophy now.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
We need to replicate the Spurs model.
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Isn’t that what we’ve been doing? Five years without a trophy now.
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What I mean is, now is the time to accept mediocrity.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
We need to replicate the Spurs model.
———
Isn’t that what we’ve been doing? Five years without a trophy now.
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What I mean is, now is the time to accept mediocrity.
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We don’t accept it….we are just use to it

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
We need to replicate the Spurs model.
———
Isn’t that what we’ve been doing? Five years without a trophy now.
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What I mean is, now is the time to accept mediocrity.
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Gotcha.

Though W&R told me our fans are the champions of mediocrity.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
Our fans love to write off our players.

DDG, Shaw, Dalot, Fred, even Bruno, all maligned by our fans, despite being our best players.

Madness
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Dalot is one of our best players?

De Gea is a great goal keeper in his own right. But it's pretty obvious that he isn't really cut out to be thr type of keeper we need him to be.

If Pep or Klopp joined us tomorrow, one of the first things they'd do is replace De Gea. Guarantee it. Be interesting to see if ETH does the same.
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Dalot is better than is given credit for.

And if Pep or Klopp came in they would instruct him to on what they needed him to do.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
Our fans love to write off our players.

DDG, Shaw, Dalot, Fred, even Bruno, all maligned by our fans, despite being our best players.

Madness
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Dalot is one of our best players?

De Gea is a great goal keeper in his own right. But it's pretty obvious that he isn't really cut out to be thr type of keeper we need him to be.

If Pep or Klopp joined us tomorrow, one of the first things they'd do is replace De Gea. Guarantee it. Be interesting to see if ETH does the same.
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DDG is the best shot stopper in the league

Has no other qualities though ….never seen a keeper live on his goal line so much

He will get find out in the high line Ten Hag will have you playing …Maguire too

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
We need to replicate the Spurs model.
———
Isn’t that what we’ve been doing? Five years without a trophy now.
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What I mean is, now is the time to accept mediocrity.
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The fish rots from the head, and the head remains.

If United fans want better than mediocrity (and I’d suggest that given the incredible advantage that SAF, Gill and the club had built, the last ten years represents far worse than mediocrity), the head has to go.

posted on 7/4/22

Woodward going is the closest we’ll get. Let’s see how his replacement does.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Woodward going is the closest we’ll get. Let’s see how his replacement does.
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Suitably if somewhat confusingly, in the analogy Woodward would represent the Gills. (Stinking rotten fish Gills, replacing deliciously fresh man Gill.)

I’m just glad the first response to my comment wasn’t the standard, “BuT tHe GlAzIeRs HaVe SpEnT LoAdS oF mUnNy oN pLaYeRs!”

So thanks for that Dazza

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 42 minutes ago
Our fans love to write off our players.

DDG, Shaw, Dalot, Fred, even Bruno, all maligned by our fans, despite being our best players.

Madness
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So says super fan RDD

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
Our fans love to write off our players.

DDG, Shaw, Dalot, Fred, even Bruno, all maligned by our fans, despite being our best players.

Madness
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Dalot is one of our best players?

De Gea is a great goal keeper in his own right. But it's pretty obvious that he isn't really cut out to be thr type of keeper we need him to be.

If Pep or Klopp joined us tomorrow, one of the first things they'd do is replace De Gea. Guarantee it. Be interesting to see if ETH does the same.
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DDG is the best shot stopper in the league

Has no other qualities though ….never seen a keeper live on his goal line so much

He will get find out in the high line Ten Hag will have you playing …Maguire too
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Found out how? Surely a brilliant shot stopper is what you need if the defence get caught too high?

posted on 7/4/22

rosso

posted on 7/4/22

I’m surprised RDD didn’t try and slip Donny’s name in there as being one of our best players.

posted on 7/4/22



How did Donny Montage do last night

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 seconds ago


How did Donny Montage do last night
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Wasn’t that one of the guys from New Kids on the Block?

posted on 7/4/22

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 seconds ago


How did Donny Montage do last night
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Wasn’t that one of the guys from New Kids on the Block?
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I could imagine Donny back at OT, sat on the bench singing ‘Hanging (Mur)Tough’

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don't think this ends well. The players have to buy into the manager and the system and so far they haven't done that with a succession of managers.
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Oh. Maybe we should just give up?
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Its the only sensible thing to do . It has not worked out with previous managers so there is no point in trying to win with a new one. We need to replicate the Spurs model.
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The issue i see is that United probably need a massive clear out....so tough and unpopular decisions to be made and a bit of a root and branch rebuild.

A lot of Utd fans moan more about how the club is run than the actual manager or players and this is probably correct. With this in mind you want a strong experienced manager who the BoD will listen to. If he says for example "Ronaldo needs to go" then the Board need to action that, not tell him no because he sells some shirts or whatever. Jose's demise largely came about over a break down in trust over Pogba. SO even back then a strong manager saying he wants player A B and C and wants rid of player D & E wasnt listened to, the BoD knew best and you've won nothing since and will lose Pogba for zip.

I feel like Spurs and Utd have been in similar positions with a group that has continued to underperform and an ownership that have been heavily criticised and a major contributing factor to the decline. It takes a strong manager to turn that around and this appears to be happening at SPurs under Conte. Really feels we are moving in the right direction. The summer will be telling but our Board will know they have to give the manager what he wants (within reason) and the DoF has helped in this.

United still seem like the Board tell the manager what he is getting. Ten Hag interviewed at Spurs, and was rejected, reportedly partially because he didnt have any recommendations for who should make up his coaching team. To me, and Spurs, this seems liek weak leadership.

The job at United is massive and IMO needs a massive manager and a Board that will listen to him. Ten Hag seems far from that and might find himself out of his depth. Dealing with the stars, the Board, the egos, the fans impatient for success, the media spot will be huge. Its not just about signing a guy who plays pretty football in the Dutch pub league

posted on 7/4/22

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 seconds ago


How did Donny Montage do last night
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Wasn’t that one of the guys from New Kids on the Block?
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I could imagine Donny back at OT, sat on the bench singing ‘Hanging (Mur)Tough’
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https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/442417

RDD could add it to his Facebook highlights

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don't think this ends well. The players have to buy into the manager and the system and so far they haven't done that with a succession of managers.
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Oh. Maybe we should just give up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Its the only sensible thing to do . It has not worked out with previous managers so there is no point in trying to win with a new one. We need to replicate the Spurs model.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The issue i see is that United probably need a massive clear out....so tough and unpopular decisions to be made and a bit of a root and branch rebuild.

A lot of Utd fans moan more about how the club is run than the actual manager or players and this is probably correct. With this in mind you want a strong experienced manager who the BoD will listen to. If he says for example "Ronaldo needs to go" then the Board need to action that, not tell him no because he sells some shirts or whatever. Jose's demise largely came about over a break down in trust over Pogba. SO even back then a strong manager saying he wants player A B and C and wants rid of player D & E wasnt listened to, the BoD knew best and you've won nothing since and will lose Pogba for zip.

I feel like Spurs and Utd have been in similar positions with a group that has continued to underperform and an ownership that have been heavily criticised and a major contributing factor to the decline. It takes a strong manager to turn that around and this appears to be happening at SPurs under Conte. Really feels we are moving in the right direction. The summer will be telling but our Board will know they have to give the manager what he wants (within reason) and the DoF has helped in this.

United still seem like the Board tell the manager what he is getting. Ten Hag interviewed at Spurs, and was rejected, reportedly partially because he didnt have any recommendations for who should make up his coaching team. To me, and Spurs, this seems liek weak leadership.

The job at United is massive and IMO needs a massive manager and a Board that will listen to him. Ten Hag seems far from that and might find himself out of his depth. Dealing with the stars, the Board, the egos, the fans impatient for success, the media spot will be huge. Its not just about signing a guy who plays pretty football in the Dutch pub league
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I disagree.

Our new Chief Exec will be well aware of past mistakes and the fans feelings over the last 5 years or so. He will therefore be well aware of the importance of this appointment and the support the manager receives going forward.

posted on 7/4/22

It's easy to win the ball back from Man Utd. Put pressure on the goalkeeper and he will hoof it long to the opposition CB to win the header. TH will replace the goalkeeper, Maguire and AWB to fix the build up phase. You need a midffiel player who can connect the first phase of build up with the attacking phase.

Let's hope Mazraoui goes to Barca.

posted on 7/4/22

Saw this on Sky Sports last night. Fantastic news.

He needs time and support.

Hopefully the clear out begins immediately.

posted on 7/4/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don't think this ends well. The players have to buy into the manager and the system and so far they haven't done that with a succession of managers.
----------------------------
Oh. Maybe we should just give up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Its the only sensible thing to do . It has not worked out with previous managers so there is no point in trying to win with a new one. We need to replicate the Spurs model.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The issue i see is that United probably need a massive clear out....so tough and unpopular decisions to be made and a bit of a root and branch rebuild.

A lot of Utd fans moan more about how the club is run than the actual manager or players and this is probably correct. With this in mind you want a strong experienced manager who the BoD will listen to. If he says for example "Ronaldo needs to go" then the Board need to action that, not tell him no because he sells some shirts or whatever. Jose's demise largely came about over a break down in trust over Pogba. SO even back then a strong manager saying he wants player A B and C and wants rid of player D & E wasnt listened to, the BoD knew best and you've won nothing since and will lose Pogba for zip.

I feel like Spurs and Utd have been in similar positions with a group that has continued to underperform and an ownership that have been heavily criticised and a major contributing factor to the decline. It takes a strong manager to turn that around and this appears to be happening at SPurs under Conte. Really feels we are moving in the right direction. The summer will be telling but our Board will know they have to give the manager what he wants (within reason) and the DoF has helped in this.

United still seem like the Board tell the manager what he is getting. Ten Hag interviewed at Spurs, and was rejected, reportedly partially because he didnt have any recommendations for who should make up his coaching team. To me, and Spurs, this seems liek weak leadership.

The job at United is massive and IMO needs a massive manager and a Board that will listen to him. Ten Hag seems far from that and might find himself out of his depth. Dealing with the stars, the Board, the egos, the fans impatient for success, the media spot will be huge. Its not just about signing a guy who plays pretty football in the Dutch pub league
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Ten Hag interviewed at Spurs, and was rejected, reportedly partially because he didnt have any recommendations for who should make up his coaching team. To me, and Spurs, this seems liek weak leadership.
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TH doesn't care about the coaching team. He is the one who does the coaching. There seems to be an outdated thinking in England whereby a manager needs assistants for the coaching. Pep and Klopp are still involved in drilling their team. Your club Spurs is used to the old fashioned lazy English manager like Redknap who goes to the betting office or shopping while his assistants do the work on the training ground.

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