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posted on 8/11/22

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 39 seconds ago
Yeah feck them. The only people who can do anything about climate change are politicians, so hurt them not innocent people going about their day.

All these protestors are going to do is force changes to policing which restrict or make criminals of future protestors.
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You're Tories have already done that.
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My tories?

I said go for the politicians who make the decisions you plum.
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Oh, sorry. I thought you were British.
How about your government? Is that okay, pedant?

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
SatNav, I wasn't aware of AOC's comments on the subject and Googled it. Is the following quote what you're referring to?

“It is basically a scientific consensus that the lives of our children are going to be very difficult, and it does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK to still have children?”

If so, I wouldn't categorise this as quite the same: seems to be an element of 'why bring a child into this terrible world?' in the remark, rather than explicitly blaming overpopulation for climate change. But maybe there are other comments too.

By the way, I'm not always impressed by AOC and her allies. In particular their lukewarm stance on support for Ukraine.
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As an aside, antinatalism isn’t a new concept.

Buddhists, daoists and even some Christian sects have long argued in favour of it from philosophical and theological positions.

And in Western philosophy, antinatalist arguments also hold a long history, based on various different ontological and ethical points, “Why bring a child into this terrible world?” being one part of the Impossibility of Consent argument.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
These activists will probably end up resorting to terrorist acts.

Let's see what you lot say then.
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They sure as sheite better not use plastic explosives 🧨

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
SatNav, I wasn't aware of AOC's comments on the subject and Googled it. Is the following quote what you're referring to?

“It is basically a scientific consensus that the lives of our children are going to be very difficult, and it does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK to still have children?”

If so, I wouldn't categorise this as quite the same: seems to be an element of 'why bring a child into this terrible world?' in the remark, rather than explicitly blaming overpopulation for climate change. But maybe there are other comments too.

By the way, I'm not always impressed by AOC and her allies. In particular their lukewarm stance on support for Ukraine.
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I think you’re being very kind to her there mate. I think she stating it as part of a solution

posted on 8/11/22

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 39 seconds ago
Yeah feck them. The only people who can do anything about climate change are politicians, so hurt them not innocent people going about their day.

All these protestors are going to do is force changes to policing which restrict or make criminals of future protestors.
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You're Tories have already done that.
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My tories?

I said go for the politicians who make the decisions you plum.
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Oh, sorry. I thought you were British.
How about your government? Is that okay, pedant?
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People like Busby have enabled these corrupt, authoritarian waaaankers in government. Then have the cheek to blame protesters for ‘forcing them’ into being corrupt and authoritarian.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
“and it does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK to still have children?””

Then they should also research our under population problem.
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What underpopulation problem?

The global population is set to increase decade upon decade until at least 2100.

And what are the specific problems with population degrowth? Many countries which have seen degrowth, like Germany and Japan, have seen better than average and better than prior GDP per capita growth, for example.

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posted on 8/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
SatNav, I wasn't aware of AOC's comments on the subject and Googled it. Is the following quote what you're referring to?

“It is basically a scientific consensus that the lives of our children are going to be very difficult, and it does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK to still have children?”

If so, I wouldn't categorise this as quite the same: seems to be an element of 'why bring a child into this terrible world?' in the remark, rather than explicitly blaming overpopulation for climate change. But maybe there are other comments too.

By the way, I'm not always impressed by AOC and her allies. In particular their lukewarm stance on support for Ukraine.
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I think you’re being very kind to her there mate. I think she stating it as part of a solution
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Well, she states that her generation's children are going to have very difficult lives. She doesn't say anything explicitly about overpopulation. But maybe this wasn't all she said - I don't know. Generally AOC is very 'right on' about the developing world, so I'd expect her to tread carefully when it comes to the overpopulation subject, as the highest populations and highest birth rates aren't in North America.

posted on 8/11/22

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posted on 8/11/22

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
Doctors were late today leading to potential missed diagnosis and delays and eventual deaths of patients. Evil
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The patients should have got better jobs and gone private then.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 8/11/22

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 5 hours, 37 minutes ago
Ryan air just had their most profitable year.
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Wish you hadn't brought that up - I am now sidetracked into considering whether them of the oil Wolfies are the biggest cvnts.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 8/11/22

comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 5 hours, 56 minutes ago
if just stop oil were serious about actually delivering change they would stand as a political party in their own right and drive that change if they get enough support

or at least tie in with the green party
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Greens will egg them on from the sidelines but don't have the balls to make these protests part of their manifesto cos they know damn well it is a vote loser with the moderate middle classes that vote for them for their conscience knowing full well there's currently no way their tax policies will impact their Boden / Waitrose / Center Parcs lifestyle.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 13 minutes ago
Making drivers wait in queues with their engines running and causing detours meaning longer journeys

That’ll show them
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Technically it's against the law to have your engine idling. Really the police should have ensured that everyone sitting idling in that queue should have been given a ticket and three points on their licence.
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And you engine should simply turn off if you put your foot hard on the brake while idling.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
Well. A quick Google search suggests that 25-34 is the age group with the most vegans.
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Every age band has their characteristics. The young have always been the most impressionable, fashionable and flexible and always will be. Also, as they age, these characteristics will change as every generation in the past has and they will end up largely conservative, curmudgeonly and resistant to change.

I see no reason for that generalisation to change even if the hot topics of the day might.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
Well. A quick Google search suggests that 25-34 is the age group with the most vegans.
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Every age band has their characteristics. The young have always been the most impressionable, fashionable and flexible and always will be. Also, as they age, these characteristics will change as every generation in the past has and they will end up largely conservative, curmudgeonly and resistant to change.

I see no reason for that generalisation to change even if the hot topics of the day might.
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I drew no real conclusion from it and it wasn’t meant to prove anyone wrong or right. As I said above, I just googled it while it was being discussed.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
SatNav, I wasn't aware of AOC's comments on the subject and Googled it. Is the following quote what you're referring to?

“It is basically a scientific consensus that the lives of our children are going to be very difficult, and it does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK to still have children?”

If so, I wouldn't categorise this as quite the same: seems to be an element of 'why bring a child into this terrible world?' in the remark, rather than explicitly blaming overpopulation for climate change. But maybe there are other comments too.

By the way, I'm not always impressed by AOC and her allies. In particular their lukewarm stance on support for Ukraine.
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I think you’re being very kind to her there mate. I think she stating it as part of a solution
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Well, she states that her generation's children are going to have very difficult lives. She doesn't say anything explicitly about overpopulation. But maybe this wasn't all she said - I don't know. Generally AOC is very 'right on' about the developing world, so I'd expect her to tread carefully when it comes to the overpopulation subject, as the highest populations and highest birth rates aren't in North America.
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I didn't know AOC (I assume you in UK mean our US congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) had made any statements on overpopulation. Of course the truth on this matter, which no politician wants to mention, although the Chinese did try to limit their growth for several years, IS that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem facing this planet. And if we don't do something about it fairly soon, nothing else will matter.

posted on 8/11/22

Can't get my head around how people react to these protesters. If global warming is as dangerous as they say, then these people have done nothing extreme. In fact they being very nice.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
Well. A quick Google search suggests that 25-34 is the age group with the most vegans.
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Every age band has their characteristics. The young have always been the most impressionable, fashionable and flexible and always will be. Also, as they age, these characteristics will change as every generation in the past has and they will end up largely conservative, curmudgeonly and resistant to change.

I see no reason for that generalisation to change even if the hot topics of the day might.
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I drew no real conclusion from it and it wasn’t meant to prove anyone wrong or right. As I said above, I just googled it while it was being discussed.

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Yeah, it wasn't meant as a direct retort, sorry. Just an observation that covers much of this debate. The young become old and realise how little they knew or understood when they were young.

posted on 8/11/22

It’s amazing how some people are suddenly concerned with delays to doctors journeys today, yet when they want to drive half a mile to buy a pint of milk, that’s fair game.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 30 minutes ago
It’s a major issue when your population is old and not young. It’s the young generation that innovate and are strong and healthy. If you don’t replace the old with young you will see many issues.

There is no issue having kids. People saying there is an issue are self hating pathological fools
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This post is totally ignorant in everything it says.

The Chinese tried restricting families to one child. Note the "not a function of" sentence below......

"China, like most of the developed world, is fast becoming an aging society, where the number of retirees outnumber the number of working adults. That’s not a function of the one-child policy, but simply a function of us living longer and having smaller families. Europe took about half a century to arrive at this stage. China has reached this at half the time, thanks largely to the accelerating effect of the one-child policy, so it’s reached a first-world problem without having quite yet arrived at first-world economic status for most of its people. This has generated the now common saying that China will grow old before it grows rich."

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/blog-posts/one-child-story-chinas-most-radical-experiment/

The problem is us living longer. Also the one-child policy did lead to female children being killed, and a consequential imbalance of male/female ratio.
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posted on 8/11/22

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s a major issue when your population is old and not young. It’s the young generation that innovate and are strong and healthy. If you don’t replace the old with young you will see many issues.

There is no issue having kids. People saying there is an issue are self hating pathological fools
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So what’s your plan? Kill everyone when they reach 50?

posted on 8/11/22

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
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How's the new van?
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Good thanks. Just using it a couple of times a month to get to mountains that public transport can't get to. It's great. I keep it outside the city so I don't have to drive it there. Can just get a train out to it in like 10 mins.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
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How's the new van?
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Good thanks. Just using it a couple of times a month to get to mountains that public transport can't get to. It's great. I keep it outside the city so I don't have to drive it there. Can just get a train out to it in like 10 mins.
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Serial killer alert

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
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How's the new van?
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Good thanks. Just using it a couple of times a month to get to mountains that public transport can't get to. It's great. I keep it outside the city so I don't have to drive it there. Can just get a train out to it in like 10 mins.
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Serial killer alert
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Not entirely true. Yes, I may injure someone, rendering them motionless. But I only do this so that I have a source of heat to keep me warm in the van. I cuddle up to the now vegetative human to keep me warm for the duration of the trip, saving on fossil fuels and helping the environment. I then discard them in the woods on the way back to die of loneliness, amongst other things, and let them decompose into the earth and help trees grow, then drive back. I then repeat the same energy saving process the next weekend. You have just got to do your own bit to help reduce the use of fossil fuels. I don't eat them though as I am environmentally conscious and meat is bad for the environment.

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