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posted on 8/11/22

comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 7 minutes ago
Looking back at rights we, the people, have won through protest, essentially what a lot of people on this thread are saying is:

"Down with the protestors, we want to work 6 days a week, 12 hour days!"

and

"Women shouldn't be allowed to vote! Stop protesting!"

Being held up for work is annoying, yes, but it's in the name: Just Stop Oil - Oil is threatening the planet and our survival, so arguing against people trying to stop it is nonsensical IMO.
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Arguing that the world needs to immediately stop using oil or other cheaper fuels is nonsensical as it will plunge hundreds of millions BACK into extreme poverty

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 28 minutes ago
What should they be doing, writing a strongly worded letter to their MP?

Civil disobedience works.
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Hunger strike.

Next
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People have been doing that for years, next

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
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Why stop there? People think they have a right to walk down the road so protestors could just barricade us in our homes - seems fair, right?

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
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Why stop there? People think they have a right to walk down the road so protestors could just barricade us in our homes - seems fair, right?
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So you are saying train drivers shouldn't have the right to shut down public transport systems for people trying to go about their day?

posted on 8/11/22

Boomers are going to HATE the future. Both short and long term planning has cars right at the bottom of the mode hierarchy. You will be having your parking removed for walking and cycling schemes. Roads will be closed to cars to allow people to enjoy life without getting run over or breathing in fumes. Boomer time will be over. Guessing by then you will have gotten rid of the right to protest so there won't be anything you can do about it either.

posted on 8/11/22

If I was younger I would join the protesters. My grandchildren's future is at stake

posted on 8/11/22

As with most issues in modern Britain, the bigger issue is our woeful infrastructure and a lack of forward-thinking across the last few generations.

It stems back to Thatcher and the way she diverted the political course of this country. Successive governments have failed to address the basic infrastructure needs of the country ever since.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 7 minutes ago
Looking back at rights we, the people, have won through protest, essentially what a lot of people on this thread are saying is:

"Down with the protestors, we want to work 6 days a week, 12 hour days!"

and

"Women shouldn't be allowed to vote! Stop protesting!"

Being held up for work is annoying, yes, but it's in the name: Just Stop Oil - Oil is threatening the planet and our survival, so arguing against people trying to stop it is nonsensical IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguing that the world needs to immediately stop using oil or other cheaper fuels is nonsensical as it will plunge hundreds of millions BACK into extreme poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand 'Dont Stop Oil' are advocating (insofar as the UK is concerned) no *new* UKGov oil licenses, and to transition over a period of 8yrs.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
How do people feel about train drivers and Network Rail staff striking every week at the moment? That is the exact same thing for public transport users as is happening on the roads when these people protest.

The issue is that you have been conditioned to think that you have a right to drive anywhere and everywhere, whenever you want.

Do you think people should be out there dragging train staff on to the trains and make them get the trains going? You can't just interrupt a whole public transport system just to highlight an issue you want to protest against.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why stop there? People think they have a right to walk down the road so protestors could just barricade us in our homes - seems fair, right?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying train drivers shouldn't have the right to shut down public transport systems for people trying to go about their day?
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Of course they have the right, but do they have the right extending to planning days to cause maximum disruption to every other walk of life and effectively doing their own industries by costing them multi millions in lost revenue and paying their members £50 a day to do it. That should be taxed as well.

We’ve family members who work on the railways at all levels and they are sick fed up of the way they are being cajoled by their unions.

They are losing out significantly with a self imposed ban on overtime and lost wages. It’s the most inept and archaic business model in existence that flatly refuses to modernise.

As for road protesters; also being paid. And to do what? Stop traffic in the middle of the busiest roads they can find and thereby pollute the atmosphere more with vehicles at a standstill instead of moving on. And that’s before the disruption they cause to everyone else’s life and safety.

Cwnts

Rant over

posted on 8/11/22

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 7 minutes ago
Looking back at rights we, the people, have won through protest, essentially what a lot of people on this thread are saying is:

"Down with the protestors, we want to work 6 days a week, 12 hour days!"

and

"Women shouldn't be allowed to vote! Stop protesting!"

Being held up for work is annoying, yes, but it's in the name: Just Stop Oil - Oil is threatening the planet and our survival, so arguing against people trying to stop it is nonsensical IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguing that the world needs to immediately stop using oil or other cheaper fuels is nonsensical as it will plunge hundreds of millions BACK into extreme poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand 'Dont Stop Oil' are advocating (insofar as the UK is concerned) no *new* UKGov oil licenses, and to transition over a period of 8yrs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's almost like these deep thinkers don't actually know what they are talking about.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Nichonte (U14419)
posted 10 minutes ago
If I was younger I would join the protesters. My grandchildren's future is at stake
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What’s stopping you?

posted on 8/11/22

There are peaceful protests, ie holding placards.
Protests that impact central or local government.ie. Not paying rates or similar
Protests that interfere with other peoples lives
Or violent protests.
Protests that stop business.
It's difficult to know what to choose for which occasion.

posted on 8/11/22

The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 28 minutes ago
What should they be doing, writing a strongly worded letter to their MP?

Civil disobedience works.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hunger strike.

Next
----------------------------------------------------------------------
People have been doing that for years, next
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I can’t remember when a large group chained themselves outside the Houses of Parliament on a hunger strike until the government agreed to a meeting with them etc.

Instead of supergluing themselves to a road of course.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The doctor knows the answer to his actions. As does the patient.

This lot are acting like 4 year olds lying down on a supermarket floor because they can’t get their own way.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 7 minutes ago
Looking back at rights we, the people, have won through protest, essentially what a lot of people on this thread are saying is:

"Down with the protestors, we want to work 6 days a week, 12 hour days!"

and

"Women shouldn't be allowed to vote! Stop protesting!"

Being held up for work is annoying, yes, but it's in the name: Just Stop Oil - Oil is threatening the planet and our survival, so arguing against people trying to stop it is nonsensical IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguing that the world needs to immediately stop using oil or other cheaper fuels is nonsensical as it will plunge hundreds of millions BACK into extreme poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand 'Dont Stop Oil' are advocating (insofar as the UK is concerned) no *new* UKGov oil licenses, and to transition over a period of 8yrs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes and the ‘no new’ is the problem for the developing countries. I’m talking about the world, not just the UK.

As ever with this discussion, no-one can ever tell me what the plan is with China & India.

posted on 8/11/22

History will be on their side

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 7 minutes ago
Looking back at rights we, the people, have won through protest, essentially what a lot of people on this thread are saying is:

"Down with the protestors, we want to work 6 days a week, 12 hour days!"

and

"Women shouldn't be allowed to vote! Stop protesting!"

Being held up for work is annoying, yes, but it's in the name: Just Stop Oil - Oil is threatening the planet and our survival, so arguing against people trying to stop it is nonsensical IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arguing that the world needs to immediately stop using oil or other cheaper fuels is nonsensical as it will plunge hundreds of millions BACK into extreme poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand 'Dont Stop Oil' are advocating (insofar as the UK is concerned) no *new* UKGov oil licenses, and to transition over a period of 8yrs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's almost like these deep thinkers don't actually know what they are talking about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry?

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The doctor knows the answer to his actions. As does the patient.

This lot are acting like 4 year olds lying down on a supermarket floor because they can’t get their own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or throwing soup over a work of art.

The world really needs to stop listening to young people like this and the older ones who simply haven’t grown up.

posted on 8/11/22

Lets face it we're all facked no matter what unless China, India, Brazil, and the US get their act together.

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The doctor knows the answer to his actions. As does the patient.

This lot are acting like 4 year olds lying down on a supermarket floor because they can’t get their own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or throwing soup over a work of art.

The world really needs to stop listening to young people like this and the older ones who simply haven’t grown up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define "grown up".

posted on 8/11/22

comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 37 seconds ago
Lets face it we're all facked no matter what unless China, India, Brazil, and the US get their act together.
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Are we fked though?

We’ve been told we’re ‘fked’ so many times by these alarmists. Credibility has lost all meaning….

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The doctor knows the answer to his actions. As does the patient.

This lot are acting like 4 year olds lying down on a supermarket floor because they can’t get their own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or throwing soup over a work of art.

The world really needs to stop listening to young people like this and the older ones who simply haven’t grown up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define "grown up".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blue hair, screaming and crying instead of listening and engaging rationally. Know the type?

posted on 8/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
The whole "stopping traffic causes more pollution" argument during a protest is like a doctor saying to a patient "This is going to hurt a bit" when putting someone's shoulder back in. At that moment in time, yes, it is going to cause more pain than not putting it back in.

"You're a doctor! You're meant to make things less sore! You sir, are a hypocrite!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The doctor knows the answer to his actions. As does the patient.

This lot are acting like 4 year olds lying down on a supermarket floor because they can’t get their own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or throwing soup over a work of art.

The world really needs to stop listening to young people like this and the older ones who simply haven’t grown up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define "grown up".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blue hair, screaming and crying instead of listening and engaging rationally. Know the type?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Louise-Harris-1-1693390.jpg?r=1667840132285

posted on 8/11/22

Problem is that many of these so called protesters belong to "rent a protester" and turn up everywhere, hugging trees, climbing statues, chaining to fences ,lying in roads all in a day's work, who pays them ?

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