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It's bigger than just Greenwood

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posted on 17/8/23

There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Everytime a Greenwood article is posted it will gives same people the opportunity to re post their same arguement for and against Greenwood each time. I think we all know what everybody thinks about the case by now and until some kind of new clarity, truth and explanations are provided by somebody genuinely ITK who is actually involved in the proceedings then we will all just continue to ramble on about this. Meanwhile it does nothing for this forum and is dividing us all into groups and cliques.

Let us wait till we hear something new as a development and revisit the conversation with better insight another day.
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This place is microcosm of the support nationwide. The support from other countries is a bit more biased in Masons side even. What the club must do is think how best to help him and ignore everything else. I'll still support United and so will everyone else.

posted on 17/8/23

Hopefully England winning the world cup this weekend makes them such heroes that their word is final from a PR perspective

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.
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would those who are for him staying at the club stop supporting the club if they didnt keep him?

cos there defo will be support that will stop supporting them if he is kept on.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’d love to the read the emails from people wanting him to stay and why. I’m sure RDD has written a few already under different aliases.
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Probably got auto filtered into spam as a result of the terrible grammar, spelling mistakes and child like intelligence on display. Will be in the Nigerian Prince scam junk email folder.
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I'm an actual Nigerian prince and I take offence with this.
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Sorry I that offended you. Btw can I get my money now, it’s been ages since I sent you 3k? Surely you have the lost gold now?
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Do you know how many nigerian princes exist?

Anyways I've invested your money for you. Its valued st £5600, but I need 300 for legal fees to withdraw it immediately.

posted on 17/8/23

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.

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I see this a lot, but is it really true?

When you say "gone", do you mean sacked? Do we know that can be done easily here? Or do you mean sold? To whom? Remember, we can't sell players we don't want even when they don't have controversy hanging over them, let alone when they do.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hopefully England winning the world cup this weekend makes them such heroes that their word is final from a PR perspective
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And to think some people wanted them to lose yesterday.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hopefully England winning the world cup this weekend makes them such heroes that their word is final from a PR perspective
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And to think some people wanted them to lose yesterday.
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The world moves fast. Plus the Spanish coach is an absolute abusive caaant so I have to support England now.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’d love to the read the emails from people wanting him to stay and why. I’m sure RDD has written a few already under different aliases.
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Probably got auto filtered into spam as a result of the terrible grammar, spelling mistakes and child like intelligence on display. Will be in the Nigerian Prince scam junk email folder.
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I'm an actual Nigerian prince and I take offence with this.
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Sorry I that offended you. Btw can I get my money now, it’s been ages since I sent you 3k? Surely you have the lost gold now?
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Do you know how many nigerian princes exist?

Anyways I've invested your money for you. Its valued st £5600, but I need 300 for legal fees to withdraw it immediately.
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Sent. Thanks, I knew I could trust royalty.

posted on 17/8/23

The world moves fast. Plus the Spanish coach is an absolute abusive caaant so I have to support England now.


So that’s how Mason has been keeping busy?

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.
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Rubbish. We've kept a lot of players who were never going to break through, Loan them out to get experience, publicity, maybe get a chance at a lower level. They are paid too. Most play till under 23 levels.

Let's not act like leaving him is some sort of good thing. Its unnecessarily callous

posted on 17/8/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.
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would those who are for him staying at the club stop supporting the club if they didnt keep him?

cos there defo will be support that will stop supporting them if he is kept on.
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That's a lie. Anyone who stops supporting United for this never was a supporter.

posted on 17/8/23

Let's not act like leaving him is some sort of good thing. Its unnecessarily callous

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What he did to his partner was unnecessarily callous. Stop being a rape excuser.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.
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would those who are for him staying at the club stop supporting the club if they didnt keep him?

cos there defo will be support that will stop supporting them if he is kept on.
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I dont believe their are many supporters who would prefer that Greenwood stays. Its obvious that United should move on without him now. Its toxic already before a decision has been made with an decent 'explanation'. But to stop supporting United over this is not on the cards for lots of us.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
There is clearly a lot of self interest with the club and some fans in keeping the player.

To try and remove any red tinted view, fans should ask themselves, what if this were behaviour by a politician, by a TV presenter etc. Look at the hammering and reputational damage Hancock got for having an affair, which happens all the time. Imagine if this was Boris, or a Met Officer.

Like it or not Greenwood and United are in positions of significant importance in society and while nothing illegal has happened, their response should not to be to sweep it under the carpet. More will be harmed by doing so than if the club and player mutually agreed to separate.

If he wasn't such a quality and valuable player, the decision would have been very easy and quickly made. If this was Phil Jones he'd have gone by now.
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would those who are for him staying at the club stop supporting the club if they didnt keep him?

cos there defo will be support that will stop supporting them if he is kept on.
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That's a lie. Anyone who stops supporting United for this never was a supporter.
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there has literally been people saying that they would stop. it would be a surprise for some women to stop their support.

I think your being very naive here

posted on 17/8/23

I will stop my support for the club if he ever plays for us again but that’s because something similar happened to someone very close to me and this whole thing is very facked.

But I don’t expect everyone to be taking this as personally as me.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 11 seconds ago
I will stop my support for the club if he ever plays for us again but that’s because something similar happened to someone very close to me and this whole thing is very facked.

But I don’t expect everyone to be taking this as personally as me.
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of course no, it will be a minority.

Im just curious if those who want him to stay would stop supporting them if he was let go.

A lot of the time the club would side with the fans on issues like this.

posted on 17/8/23

If I recall correctly ETH stood by Overmars too after his indiscretions so I wonder if he is as sensitive to these matters as you’d hope.

posted on 17/8/23

No way will people stop supporting United if Greenwood stays.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
No way will people stop supporting United if Greenwood stays.
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well the post literally 3 up from this says your wrong

posted on 17/8/23

I honestly think, if this was a Spurs player I would feel quite sick continuing to support them if they allowed him back in.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
No way will people stop supporting United if Greenwood stays.
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well the post literally 3 up from this says your wrong
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Nope. Very easy to say such things, very difficult to stick by it. Just like quitting 606, they always come back

posted on 17/8/23

Wonder if he’s gonna be like Ravel who was literally useless after time out of the game

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
No way will people stop supporting United if Greenwood stays.
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well the post literally 3 up from this says your wrong
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Nope. Very easy to say such things, very difficult to stick by it. Just like quitting 606, they always come back
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this sounds a lot like putting the fingers in the ears and saying nananananananana .........

there will defo be female supporters that will stop supporting ... this is not a question IMO.

Im asking if those who want him to stay walk away if they let him go.

posted on 17/8/23

comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
No way will people stop supporting United if Greenwood stays.
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well the post literally 3 up from this says your wrong
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Nope. Very easy to say such things, very difficult to stick by it. Just like quitting 606, they always come back
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That’s just rdd

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