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posted on 9/10/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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woke attitude
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Naaah. You can't blame the woke for everything.

posted on 9/10/23

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.

posted on 9/10/23

On a basic moral level, anyone who is slaughtering civilians is catastrophically wrong, so there should be no need for ambivalence when talking about what Hamas has done. It's exactly the same as an Israeli airstrike or mortar that knowingly attacks Palestinian civilians. It's horrific.

Zoom out to the wider political and territorial conflict, and it should be equally clear that Israel has been systematically denying Palestinians their civil rights, driving them off their land, and making their ability to exist as a nation untenable. In the post-war years of Zionism, I think some understanding of how the deep scars of the Holocaust shaped the Jewish sense of insecurity and the kind of homeland that was needed. Over the last decade it has been ever more clear that the driving force has increasingly been a colonial logic, which carries an ever more explicitly racist rhetoric. So in the big picture, it shouldn't be hard to take sides, not simplistically 'these people are good / these people are bad', but in advocating for an end to apartheid and ethnic cleansing, justice for Palestinians, and a pathway for both communities to live in peace and prosperity.

Sadly, the Hamas atrocities, beyond their hideous direct consequences, will give the worst people in Israel the opportunity to escalate.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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How would the UK react to the I.R.Aresurfacing and killing 600 of our citizens?

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 minutes ago
Between 2008-2020 (I'm sure it's changed quite a bit since then) there have been over 22 times as many Palestine deaths (5,590) as there have Israeli (251) and that's not even going into living conditions. One is clearly being f-cked over more than the other.
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There were updated figures shown on TV from earlier this year that had the figures at around 9,000 to 400
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fk me

Surely of all the people who should have sympathy for the destitues and the aggrieved, the Jews should be?

Tbh Jews do side with Paletinians - it is the Zionists that are behind the bloodshed

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
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I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 minutes ago
Between 2008-2020 (I'm sure it's changed quite a bit since then) there have been over 22 times as many Palestine deaths (5,590) as there have Israeli (251) and that's not even going into living conditions. One is clearly being f-cked over more than the other.
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There were updated figures shown on TV from earlier this year that had the figures at around 9,000 to 400
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fk me

Surely of all the people who should have sympathy for the destitues and the aggrieved, the Jews should be?

Tbh Jews do side with Paletinians - it is the Zionists that are behind the bloodshed
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It’s no different to 1 million people protesting the Iraq war, then our government go ahead with the invasion regardless.

I’ve spoken to many Israel’s in Tel Aviv (I’ve a few clients) and they just want peace, even if they have a general dislike of Palestine.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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They should be told, in no uncertain terms, that would be a war crime.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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How would the UK react to the I.R.Aresurfacing and killing 600 of our citizens?
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Hopefully not by besieging the whole of the Republic of Ireland, ordering air strikes on Dublin, and implying that Irish people as a whole are sub-human.

posted on 9/10/23

It’s a complete. It’s well past the point of an amicable solution. Palestine is going to get flattened.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
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I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.
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Like Diafol says, any criticism of a minority diverse culture, or people oppressed in previous centuries, are racist.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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How would the UK react to the I.R.Aresurfacing and killing 600 of our citizens?
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Hopefully not by besieging the whole of the Republic of Ireland, ordering air strikes on Dublin, and implying that Irish people as a whole are sub-human.
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They wouldn’t dare

posted on 9/10/23

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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They should be told, in no uncertain terms, that would be a war crime.

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They don’t care.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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How would the UK react to the I.R.Aresurfacing and killing 600 of our citizens?
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Hopefully not by besieging the whole of the Republic of Ireland, ordering air strikes on Dublin, and implying that Irish people as a whole are sub-human.
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Well, we can’t besiege them, but we’d fight to keep control of any of our home nations.

When war is declared, siege tactics are to be expected.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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They should be told, in no uncertain terms, that would be a war crime.

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There are no consequences of war crimes.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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They should be told, in no uncertain terms, that would be a war crime.

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They don’t care.
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Correct and to the point you made earlier I reckon this is the scenario that will result in israel obliterating them

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
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I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.
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Like Diafol says, any criticism of a minority diverse culture, or people oppressed in previous centuries, are racist.
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That isn’t what he said. He was talking about criticism of the state of Israel.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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Israel being able to do this to Palestinians indicates a huge problem.

Again you wonder what were the Palestinians thinking would happen?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
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This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
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I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.
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Like Diafol says, any criticism of a minority diverse culture, or people oppressed in previous centuries, are racist.
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That isn’t what he said. He was talking about criticism of the state of Israel.
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Okay, but the point stands in order walks of life

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
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I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.
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Like Diafol says, any criticism of a minority diverse culture, or people oppressed in previous centuries, are racist.
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But some criticisms are actually racist and it's important to have the wherewithal to know the difference between those that are and those that aren't. Unless you're saying racism doesn't exist.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 9/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
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Israel being able to do this to Palestinians indicates a huge problem.

Again you wonder what were the Palestinians thinking would happen?
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It happens all over the world. Nobody cares about the mass genocide in Sri Lanka for example, because it isn’t strategically valuable to the west.

America need to be careful b cause there could be a scenario where theres war on three continents and they are indirectly involved.

This attack was probably orchestrated by Iran, who themselves are a massively oppressive state.

Unfortunately there’s only one winner in this conflict, that’s the state with massive finically investment in their military, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Isreal offer evacuation for Palestinian citizens and Gaza be totally obliterated.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Not going to get into who is right or wrong, but again Britain played a part in this on-going war. How people in this country have the audacity to attack others is bewildering to me.

On this matter, what has happened recently, attacking young people at a festival, showering bullets at them is nothing short of an absolute disgrace it does not matter who you support in this fight. Innocent civilians just going by their day, mainly young and their whole lives ahead of them. Horrible scenes!
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It's because the people saying it haven't attacked anybody.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

This is what what we’re dealing with lads.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They should be told, in no uncertain terms, that would be a war crime.

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They don’t care.
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Correct and to the point you made earlier I reckon this is the scenario that will result in israel obliterating them
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There's now gonna be a long time of unbearable acute human suffering, disease, death and destruction. Can't imagine it.

And the best part is that they knowingly and wittingly brought it on themselves.

posted on 9/10/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
What annoys me is that it seems that any criticism (even if it's legitimate) of the Israeli state is shouted down as antisemitism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the issue with positive discrimination.

Look at what has happened to Corbyn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't see any connection between this and positive discrimination.
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Like Diafol says, any criticism of a minority diverse culture, or people oppressed in previous centuries, are racist.
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That's not positive discrimination. Positive discrimination is when you provide opportunities for people in underprivileged groups. What you're talking about is opposition to racism. You're saying that stigmatisation of racism is problematic, because sometimes accusations of racism are made in bad faith. But I'd argue that the bad faith accusations are the issue, not the fact that lots of people hate racism. And in fact, most people can tell the difference, and don't accept that criticising Israel isn't inherently anti-Semitic.

(With Corbyn there were definitely some pro-Israel voices and some anti-Corbyn ones that used the anti-Semitism accusation in bad faith for heinous political reasons. There were also quite a lot of people who used anti-Semitic rhetoric when supporting Corbyn. That made the whole thing rather thorny, and I think Corbyn had a blind spot about it because he was so used to bad faith criticism that he assumed all of it fell into that category.)

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