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comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 3/3/24

The cheating ref you speak off gave Dujon Sterling a straight red card at Ibrox against Aberdeen.

VAR took a look, and told this cheating bastirt to go to the monitor, as they felt a red card was the wrong decision......he ignored that, the cheating khunt, and stuck with his on field decision.

This is also the same cheating bastirt that disallowed Cyriel Dessers goal at Ibrox in the first old firm game of the season

We can all play that game Magnum

posted on 3/3/24

Tell me Celtic got beat today without telling me Celtic got beat today

posted on 3/3/24

Seen the sky sports clip of Lennon and Boyd talking about the hearts penalty.

It's as much a penalty as the one Killie got against us. The rule is a mess and feels like it has been for such a long time now and every change they make seems to create another problem.

Unfortunately though the rule says it's a pen.

The red card was just a red card, fairly simple.

Beaton made none of these decisions though so Rodgers post match comments are nothing more than deflection using a scapegoat he knows the fans will relish.

posted on 3/3/24

Nah, I’m not BR’s biggest fan but he was right to call out the shambolic officiating today. Celtic’s wasn’t a pen, Hearts wasn’t a pen and the red was only a yellow. Even Boyd in the studio said that Hearts pen was ridiculous. That said, Celtic under BR have been poor all season and he cannot set the team up to win comfortably in most games.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted less than a minute ago
Nah, I’m not BR’s biggest fan but he was right to call out the shambolic officiating today. Celtic’s wasn’t a pen, Hearts wasn’t a pen and the red was only a yellow. Even Boyd in the studio said that Hearts pen was ridiculous. That said, Celtic under BR have been poor all season and he cannot set the team up to win comfortably in most games.
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So call out the guy who made them?

posted on 3/3/24

Every club has been on the wrong end of a handball call like that today.

Clement has been bemoaning the inconsistency of handball decisions for weeks given some of the horrendous calls we have had.

Souttar had a handball given against him in a game at Ibrox that in the last review was conformed as an error, along with the Johnston one in the OF game.

I said after that game the biggest error the SFA made in their statement/explanation after that is that handball is subjective. That was a mistake because it removes any accountability for referees in their opinion case by case. It also opens up the possibility of cheating should they wish to given the lack of clear explanation on the rules or protocols. So if Robertson wants to cheat today, he can and there's no recourse.

Not a peep from Rodgers, Celtic or their support at any point about the handball situation. It was actually all quite funny until inevitably at some point it goes against them. First penalty conceded of the season, first loss in 3 months and it's back to being victims of cheating and conspiracies.

posted on 3/3/24

I absolutely agree that the handball rule is a mess even if it was consistently applied which unfortunately it isn't which just makes it worse.

Add the general poor standard of officials in this country and you basically have a lottery system.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted less than a minute ago
Nah, I’m not BR’s biggest fan but he was right to call out the shambolic officiating today. Celtic’s wasn’t a pen, Hearts wasn’t a pen and the red was only a yellow. Even Boyd in the studio said that Hearts pen was ridiculous. That said, Celtic under BR have been poor all season and he cannot set the team up to win comfortably in most games.
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So call out the guy who made them?
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He knows what he's doing. Wonder if the SFA will put out a statement to warn he could be responsible for attacks like the one of the ref in Turkey.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted less than a minute ago
Nah, I’m not BR’s biggest fan but he was right to call out the shambolic officiating today. Celtic’s wasn’t a pen, Hearts wasn’t a pen and the red was only a yellow. Even Boyd in the studio said that Hearts pen was ridiculous. That said, Celtic under BR have been poor all season and he cannot set the team up to win comfortably in most games.
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So call out the guy who made them?
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He knows what he's doing. Wonder if the SFA will put out a statement to warn he could be responsible for attacks like the one of the ref in Turkey.
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Aye Don Robertson made the decisions today not John Beaton. Rodgers knows that but is delighted he has someone he can blame.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've just seen a clip of the penalty Celtic got. Dear me you can't honestly be thinking the ref was against you
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No one said the ref

posted on 3/3/24

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 second ago
I absolutely agree that the handball rule is a mess even if it was consistently applied which unfortunately it isn't which just makes it worse.

Add the general poor standard of officials in this country and you basically have a lottery system.
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Of course it is. Rangers have been calling that out since Candeias was sent off for blowing a player a kiss. But for as long as Celtic were winning they didn't want to know. The OF rivalry is such that we will never be able to bring the game forward in quality in any area because when one says black the other by default says white.

posted on 3/3/24

Full time professional refs is what's needed

posted on 3/3/24

The current crop are a shambles. They're incompetence is summed up by the fact that even with var and the opportunity of several replays they still get it wrong.

Equally given how toxic things can be here you ask who would want to be a referee? We haven't exactly made it an attractive gig in the last 15 years or so. I fully include Rangers in that btw, we have let ourselves down at times.

posted on 3/3/24

I’ve been consistent through all of todays game

Our penalty was as straightforward as you can get. Boy plants his foot directly in front of the trailing leg and he goes over. Not necessarily deliberate but a penalty nonetheless.

The sending off is straightforward too. Yang can see the Hearts boy come in to attempt a header and still throws his boot in the air and catches him in the face. Idiotic and a deserved red.

Their penalty was ridiculous but ffs we are all used to BAR and refs interpretations for long enough. I’d have shouted for it had it been us and be delighted if it was given, citing the same VAR inconsistencies. Can’t have it both ways. A daft decision but hardly shocked by it.

No complaints from me at all. We score that penalty (believed from the minute he tried twice to place the ball until just accepting where it sat, that he’d miss it), and it’s a completely different game I’d expect us to go on and win.

Rodgers bleating changes none of that. We lost today and overall deserved to lose.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 3/3/24

Yes, the sending off is straightforward yet the Motherwell lad on Scales last week wasn't even yellow. That's a big inconsistency probably because Scales never threw himself to the ground clutching it.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about an hour ago
I’ve been consistent through all of todays game

Our penalty was as straightforward as you can get. Boy plants his foot directly in front of the trailing leg and he goes over. Not necessarily deliberate but a penalty nonetheless.

The sending off is straightforward too. Yang can see the Hearts boy come in to attempt a header and still throws his boot in the air and catches him in the face. Idiotic and a deserved red.

Their penalty was ridiculous but ffs we are all used to BAR and refs interpretations for long enough. I’d have shouted for it had it been us and be delighted if it was given, citing the same VAR inconsistencies. Can’t have it both ways. A daft decision but hardly shocked by it.

No complaints from me at all. We score that penalty (believed from the minute he tried twice to place the ball until just accepting where it sat, that he’d miss it), and it’s a completely different game I’d expect us to go on and win.

Rodgers bleating changes none of that. We lost today and overall deserved to lose.
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Each to their own opinion eh?

posted on 3/3/24

I have never seen Brendan have the Celtic fans giving him so much backing as they seem to be today. And that is after a 2-0 defeat in which they were given the cheapest of cheap penalties as a head start.

The mans a geniusπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

posted on 3/3/24

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
I have never seen Brendan have the Celtic fans giving him so much backing as they seem to be today. And that is after a 2-0 defeat in which they were given the cheapest of cheap penalties as a head start.

The mans a geniusπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Clearly you’re the only one that thinks that.

Fair play πŸ‘

posted on 3/3/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
I have never seen Brendan have the Celtic fans giving him so much backing as they seem to be today. And that is after a 2-0 defeat in which they were given the cheapest of cheap penalties as a head start.

The mans a geniusπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Clearly you’re the only one that thinks that.

Fair play πŸ‘
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There doesn’t seem to be too much chat about the actual game beyond the pens/sending off or Celtics failings today.

Brendan has made it all about Beaton despite the fact he never actually made any on field decisions today.

And plenty of folks seem to be happy to focus on that.

Brendan certainly knows the Celtic fan base well enough.

posted on 3/3/24

It was all about the ref today

That's what's sad .....it actually looked to be heading to a great game today but from the Yang pen it was ruined

The Yang sending off ...is high boot now a sending off ??
Not as far as I knew...although I kind of see why it was given

And the penalty..nothing other than a complete fck up on the officiating, a disgrace of a decision
Complete ineptitude

comment by 12In13 (U9258)

posted on 3/3/24

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 20 minutes ago
It was all about the ref today

That's what's sad .....it actually looked to be heading to a great game today but from the Yang pen it was ruined

The Yang sending off ...is high boot now a sending off ??
Not as far as I knew...although I kind of see why it was given

And the penalty..nothing other than a complete fck up on the officiating, a disgrace of a decision
Complete ineptitude
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It ruined what could have been an absolute belter of a game which I believe Celtic would have won. The manager is correct. We move onto the next game.

posted on 3/3/24

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
I have never seen Brendan have the Celtic fans giving him so much backing as they seem to be today. And that is after a 2-0 defeat in which they were given the cheapest of cheap penalties as a head start.

The mans a geniusπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Clearly you’re the only one that thinks that.

Fair play πŸ‘
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There doesn’t seem to be too much chat about the actual game beyond the pens/sending off or Celtics failings today.

Brendan has made it all about Beaton despite the fact he never actually made any on field decisions today.

And plenty of folks seem to be happy to focus on that.

Brendan certainly knows the Celtic fan base well enough.
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What’s this mental narrative trying to suggest Beaton wasn’t really involved in today’s controversial incidents?!! 99 times out of 100 if VAR ask the ref to re-visit a decision it gets changed … which he did 3 times in half an hour in the first half. To suggest VAR officials aren’t massively influential on games like today is just barking.

posted on 4/3/24

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
I have never seen Brendan have the Celtic fans giving him so much backing as they seem to be today. And that is after a 2-0 defeat in which they were given the cheapest of cheap penalties as a head start.

The mans a geniusπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Clearly you’re the only one that thinks that.

Fair play πŸ‘
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There doesn’t seem to be too much chat about the actual game beyond the pens/sending off or Celtics failings today.

Brendan has made it all about Beaton despite the fact he never actually made any on field decisions today.

And plenty of folks seem to be happy to focus on that.

Brendan certainly knows the Celtic fan base well enough.
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What’s this mental narrative trying to suggest Beaton wasn’t really involved in today’s controversial incidents?!! 99 times out of 100 if VAR ask the ref to re-visit a decision it gets changed … which he did 3 times in half an hour in the first half. To suggest VAR officials aren’t massively influential on games like today is just barking.
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Of course Beaton was involved in the process.

At the end of the day it was the refs decision though. We have seen refs stand by their on field decisions lately. It’s entirely up to them.

Rodgers specifically highlighted Beaton because he knew it would have the Celtic fans backing him that they were cheated and take any focus away from the teams failings.

Refs are awful in Scotland. We all know that. Rangers shouldn’t have singled out Collum the way they did. Rodgers could easily have talked about ‘VAR’ in impersonal terms yesterday. He didn’t and we all know why.

It’s certainly seems to have worked in uniting the Celtic fans behind Brendan like no other time this season.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 4/3/24

Just rewatched the Celtic penalty decision, I initially didn’t think the ball deflected off Johnston, but it does, there is a slight deflection

What I have noticed however….is that it is Johnstons arm that it deflects off

So the ball is dropping from height, it hits one Celtic players arm, deflects from there and then hits another Celtic players arm

I still think it’s soft yes, but it hit two Celtic players arms on the way down…….so calling it a ridiculous decision when that’s what has happened is a bit strong

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 4/3/24

…..sorry, Hearts penalty decision

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