comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)

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There you go again with massive assumptions.

I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?

Or maybe not.

It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
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then tell us these facts your basing your opinion on then?

I dont know what discussions the refs had no. of course not thats the point im making no one does yet most of you seem to be decided in your opinion without knowing it.

Iv asked what decision Beaton got wrong, Iv asked what was said to the refs by VAR room to determine if there was fault. And got zero back from any of you.

You said Beaton interrupted the game as much as he could to influence the ref did you not?

you made the claim.

With Casey and McCausland it was a 50/50, Casey got there well ahead of McCausland, McCausland was caught on the follow through because he was late....he only gets caught because he was so late, sticking a leg out to try and stop the ball going past him, and it's Casey's knee that catches him....McCauslands studs hit Casey on his trailing leg, that's how late he was.

Lucky if it's even a foul for me, let alone a red card

If we are giving red cards for that, Lundstram runs the risk of being sent off every time he makes a strong 50/50 challenge, wins the ball and follows through a bit

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
With Casey and McCausland it was a 50/50, Casey got there well ahead of McCausland, McCausland was caught on the follow through because he was late....he only gets caught because he was so late, sticking a leg out to try and stop the ball going past him, and it's Casey's knee that catches him....McCauslands studs hit Casey on his trailing leg, that's how late he was.

Lucky if it's even a foul for me, let alone a red card

If we are giving red cards for that, Lundstram runs the risk of being sent off every time he makes a strong 50/50 challenge, wins the ball and follows through a bit
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You’re very wrong with this one.

All four on Sky Red Watch said it’s a very clear red. Madden has said the same.

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
With Casey and McCausland it was a 50/50, Casey got there well ahead of McCausland, McCausland was caught on the follow through because he was late....he only gets caught because he was so late, sticking a leg out to try and stop the ball going past him, and it's Casey's knee that catches him....McCauslands studs hit Casey on his trailing leg, that's how late he was.

Lucky if it's even a foul for me, let alone a red card

If we are giving red cards for that, Lundstram runs the risk of being sent off every time he makes a strong 50/50 challenge, wins the ball and follows through a bit
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You’re very wrong with this one.

All four on Sky Red Watch said it’s a very clear red. Madden has said the same.
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he originally thought Mcausland $hat it tbf!!

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
With Casey and McCausland it was a 50/50, Casey got there well ahead of McCausland, McCausland was caught on the follow through because he was late....he only gets caught because he was so late, sticking a leg out to try and stop the ball going past him, and it's Casey's knee that catches him....McCauslands studs hit Casey on his trailing leg, that's how late he was.

Lucky if it's even a foul for me, let alone a red card

If we are giving red cards for that, Lundstram runs the risk of being sent off every time he makes a strong 50/50 challenge, wins the ball and follows through a bit
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You’re very wrong with this one.

All four on Sky Red Watch said it’s a very clear red. Madden has said the same.
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he originally thought Mcausland $hat it tbf!!
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I am genuinely not sure we are talking about the same tackle

For me it was at least a yellow. Potential red. It was clearly endangering an opponent as hes now on crutches.

Trying to put the blame for that on McCausland is a bit strange. I would guess he is one of the grumblers who isnt McCauslands biggest fan?

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)

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There you go again with massive assumptions.

I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?

Or maybe not.

It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
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then tell us these facts your basing your opinion on then?

I dont know what discussions the refs had no. of course not thats the point im making no one does yet most of you seem to be decided in your opinion without knowing it.

Iv asked what decision Beaton got wrong, Iv asked what was said to the refs by VAR room to determine if there was fault. And got zero back from any of you.

You said Beaton interrupted the game as much as he could to influence the ref did you not?

you made the claim.
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He was wrong in my opinion in having VAR involved at all to be perfectly honest. It’s become far too influential in our game and has gone way beyond its remit.

My opinion of course.

Phone off now.

Got nothing to do with how good I think McCausland is

When Casey plays the ball, McCausland is about a yard away from him... Casey was committed, that's why he got there first....McCausland hesitated, that's why he's nowhere near actually challenging for the ball, and Athas why when he sticks his leg out, he's only putting it into the path of a player that has coming through after he made sure he got to the ball first

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)

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He was wrong in my opinion in having VAR involved at all to be perfectly honest. It’s become far too influential in our game and has gone way beyond its remit.

My opinion of course.

Phone off now.
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again your basing that opinion on thinking that Beaton was the one that requested VAR without not having a clue what conversations were had or who requested the review.

If it was Beaton constantly saying the ref review this , review that then you may have a point but you dont have a clue so cant IMO.

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
Got nothing to do with how good I think McCausland is

When Casey plays the ball, McCausland is about a yard away from him... Casey was committed, that's why he got there first....McCausland hesitated, that's why he's nowhere near actually challenging for the ball, and Athas why when he sticks his leg out, he's only putting it into the path of a player that has coming through after he made sure he got to the ball first
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You are aware that Mcausland isnt trying to tackle he is trying to play the ball and move on with the attack.....

he certainly didnt $hite it, and certainly wasnt late into any "tackle"

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 23 minutes ago

Flight to catch and all the jazz
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Yes, catch it in a Kleenex and dispose responsibly before the next user goes into the toilet.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
Got nothing to do with how good I think McCausland is

When Casey plays the ball, McCausland is about a yard away from him... Casey was committed, that's why he got there first....McCausland hesitated, that's why he's nowhere near actually challenging for the ball, and Athas why when he sticks his leg out, he's only putting it into the path of a player that has coming through after he made sure he got to the ball first
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You are aware that Mcausland isnt trying to tackle he is trying to play the ball and move on with the attack.....
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He was late to a 50/50

Casey plays the ball, McCausland doesn't, he's nowhere near it

When there is contact, it's Casey knee, in the follow through of playing the ball, that hits McCauslands stuck out leg that got nowhere near playing the ball...and all of Casey's studs are on the ground at the point of contact

So what's being said is, a player can be sent off if he gets to a loose ball first, purely because his momentum carries him into a player that was late getting anywhere near that loose ball, even though his studs are on the ground

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)

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He was wrong in my opinion in having VAR involved at all to be perfectly honest. It’s become far too influential in our game and has gone way beyond its remit.

My opinion of course.

Phone off now.
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again your basing that opinion on thinking that Beaton was the one that requested VAR without not having a clue what conversations were had or who requested the review.

If it was Beaton constantly saying the ref review this , review that then you may have a point but you dont have a clue so cant IMO.
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Are you seriously trying to suggest it might have been the onfield ref that wanted VAR involved? The guy who was clearly happy to give a yellow for the Yang challenge and move on? The guy that clearly saw nothing worthy of a Hearts pen and was happily letting play continue, until VAR intervened an eternity later?

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted about a minute ago
Got nothing to do with how good I think McCausland is

When Casey plays the ball, McCausland is about a yard away from him... Casey was committed, that's why he got there first....McCausland hesitated, that's why he's nowhere near actually challenging for the ball, and Athas why when he sticks his leg out, he's only putting it into the path of a player that has coming through after he made sure he got to the ball first
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You are aware that Mcausland isnt trying to tackle he is trying to play the ball and move on with the attack.....
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He was late to a 50/50

Casey plays the ball, McCausland doesn't, he's nowhere near it

When there is contact, it's Casey knee, in the follow through of playing the ball, that hits McCauslands stuck out leg that got nowhere near playing the ball...and all of Casey's studs are on the ground at the point of contact

So what's being said is, a player can be sent off if he gets to a loose ball first, purely because his momentum carries him into a player that was late getting anywhere near that loose ball, even though his studs are on the ground
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It's not any Casey getting the ball, it's about him getting it with excessive force and out of control, putting his opponent in danger. We're about 40 years past the point where that kind of challenge is acceptable.

Interesting on ref watch that Gallagher said in Scotland they are referring handballs in the box more stringently and have been consistent with it all season, rangers have certainly conceded a 2 that way.

I wonder why Scotland would be taking a deliberately different approach? I'd imagine they thought it would simplify things but it clearly doesn't.

Still stand by my original view that McCausland $hat out the 50/50

If Casey's studs were up when he makes contact, I'd take your point...but they aren't

Players can still get injured via robust but perectly legal tackles

It's McCausland sticking his leg out, long after the ball has gone, and into the path of Casey on his follow through, that causes not only the contact, but the injury....and it's his hesitation that puts him in that position

He either commits to the 50/50 or he pulls himself out of it completely....he went into it half hearted then put his leg in harms way after the opponent had long since cleared the ball, and it's that leg that got injured

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.

What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.

Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.

VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.

It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.

It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.

You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.

The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.

If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.

Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?

Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.

for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"

thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.

you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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Rodgers played the cheating Beaton hoon card without the special sauce.

Because he knew Celtic fans would lap it up.

Celtic blew the chance to go top of the league and all the chat is about John Beaton. Not just VAR - but John Beaton on VAR.

Despite losing 2-0 to Hearts Celtic fans seem united and on the same page as the Manager.


Top class management by Brendan.
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You're having some day on here 🤣🤣

You've been sitting there for years being utterly gullible like most of your fellow bears and thinking 'one day the Tims will be gullible and I'll really let them have it'.

Problem is you're wrong. The Celtic fans are wise to Rodgers. Most want him gone. Nobody is being kidder.

Nobody is being kidded by his attempted deflection. We're talking about the officials because of their performance not because of Brendan.

Enjoy your day though. It's distracting from wheels starting to come off the wagon on Saturday at Ibrox.

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 13 minutes ago
Interesting on ref watch that Gallagher said in Scotland they are referring handballs in the box more stringently and have been consistent with it all season, rangers have certainly conceded a 2 that way.

I wonder why Scotland would be taking a deliberately different approach? I'd imagine they thought it would simplify things but it clearly doesn't.
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Consistently letting Goldson do it, aye?

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
"The issue is that 2 very similar incidents at Fir Park last week were judged very differently. All 4 went against Celtic. That's not good."

What's not good?.....the fact that similar incidents were judged differently....or that everything went against Celtic?

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It's not good that everything went against Celtic. Ffs why is that difficult for you?.

4 massive decisions that were at least 50/50 or clearly should have gone to Celtic went the other way.

That's not good from my point of view. Probably great from yours.
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I'm asking these questions because you are implying that the refs have cheated, which is embarrassing

Your earlier post basically said that because VAR has time to look at incidents, they can make a better judgement call than a referee can in a split second...so if that decision is wrong, it's more likely that said VAR is actually cheating bastirts, rather than just making an error or interpreting the rules pretty poorly

These kind of statements really are utterly ridiculous

So I asked the question above, because the fact things have went against Celtic seem to be all you care about

The issue is that similar incidents are being judged differently...that is the only issue

Goin by what you are saying, if the similar incidents had been judged differently, and none of them went against Celtic, you'd be perfectly fcking happy with that

Drop the bias $hite mate

Your team have had more penalties given to them than any other team in the league this season

Only one penalty has been given against you this season...the very soft call that went against you at Tynecastle yesterday

The minute that happens....our comes the bias bollox again...it's pathetic mate, so I'll say it again, fcking rein it in

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New sheriff in town!
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Big mad Stevie telling folk what they can and can't say.

There's nothing embarrassing at all in stating a belief that referees have an agenda. Referees have been done for match fixing and other issues all over the world.

Anyone who refuses to contemplate that it could happen here is in cloud cuckoo land and probably racist.

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 14 minutes ago

You're having some day on here 🤣🤣

You've been sitting there for years being utterly gullible like most of your fellow bears and thinking 'one day the Tims will be gullible and I'll really let them have it'.

Problem is you're wrong. The Celtic fans are wise to Rodgers. Most want him gone. Nobody is being kidder.

Nobody is being kidded by his attempted deflection. We're talking about the officials because of their performance not because of Brendan.

Enjoy your day though. It's distracting from wheels starting to come off the wagon on Saturday at Ibrox.
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Is that what I have been sitting here thinking 'for years'!?



You guys have the strangest fantasies.

All I am doing is saying what I am seeing. Barely a word about the game. All about John Beaton - a man who didnt award a penalty against celtic or send a celtic player off.

But that doesnt matter. It was all John Beatons fault.

Because he was pictured in a pub smiling about 5 years ago

Gullible AF man. Brendans little puppets on a string.

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 14 minutes ago

You're having some day on here 🤣🤣

You've been sitting there for years being utterly gullible like most of your fellow bears and thinking 'one day the Tims will be gullible and I'll really let them have it'.

Problem is you're wrong. The Celtic fans are wise to Rodgers. Most want him gone. Nobody is being kidder.

Nobody is being kidded by his attempted deflection. We're talking about the officials because of their performance not because of Brendan.

Enjoy your day though. It's distracting from wheels starting to come off the wagon on Saturday at Ibrox.
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Is that what I have been sitting here thinking 'for years'!?



You guys have the strangest fantasies.

All I am doing is saying what I am seeing. Barely a word about the game. All about John Beaton - a man who didnt award a penalty against celtic or send a celtic player off.

But that doesnt matter. It was all John Beatons fault.

Because he was pictured in a pub smiling about 5 years ago

Gullible AF man. Brendans little puppets on a string.
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Permanently damaged🤣🤣🤣🤣

On a different subject and hopefully one most of us can agree upon (although I'm sure there will be some 'free-thinkers' out there), apart from the kids game taking place on the pitch, what a frightful spectacle that was yesterday.

Empty seats all over the stadium, banners and segregation sections behind one of the goals. The game is crying out for money and the clubs are throwing it away.

Time something was done. It's desperate stuff.

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 14 minutes ago

You're having some day on here 🤣🤣

You've been sitting there for years being utterly gullible like most of your fellow bears and thinking 'one day the Tims will be gullible and I'll really let them have it'.

Problem is you're wrong. The Celtic fans are wise to Rodgers. Most want him gone. Nobody is being kidder.

Nobody is being kidded by his attempted deflection. We're talking about the officials because of their performance not because of Brendan.

Enjoy your day though. It's distracting from wheels starting to come off the wagon on Saturday at Ibrox.
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Is that what I have been sitting here thinking 'for years'!?



You guys have the strangest fantasies.

All I am doing is saying what I am seeing. Barely a word about the game. All about John Beaton - a man who didnt award a penalty against celtic or send a celtic player off.

But that doesnt matter. It was all John Beatons fault.

Because he was pictured in a pub smiling about 5 years ago

Gullible AF man. Brendans little puppets on a string.
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Permanently damaged🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Think HH is living in an alternative universe if he thinks we’re all happy with BR or yesterday. Hard to get too stuck into the actual performance though when we were down to 10 men after 15 mins, as all plans are kinda out the window at that point. Still didn’t see Hearts scoring until their “pen” out of feck all. Game’s a bogey at that point, with virtually nothing on the bench.

Don't have a problem with people thinking that it's possible that certain individuals in our game have an agenda for or against a team or whatever

It's when it's the default response the minute something goes against them that I take issue with

First penalty given against you this season.....clearly cheating bastirts...yeah, theres nothing wrong with jumping straight to that conclusion I suppose

Interesting apparently there was an ifab meeting on Friday where the voted to change handball rules.

Accidentally handball will no longer result in a penalty although I guess it will be back to the old subjective between accidental and deliberate.

Also some changes proposed re captains only approaching the ref but to be trialled in league one and below

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/68457351.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17095489758599&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2F68457351