comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
"The issue is that 2 very similar incidents at Fir Park last week were judged very differently. All 4 went against Celtic. That's not good."
What's not good?.....the fact that similar incidents were judged differently....or that everything went against Celtic?
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It's not good that everything went against Celtic. Ffs why is that difficult for you?.
4 massive decisions that were at least 50/50 or clearly should have gone to Celtic went the other way.
That's not good from my point of view. Probably great from yours.
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I'm asking these questions because you are implying that the refs have cheated, which is embarrassing
Your earlier post basically said that because VAR has time to look at incidents, they can make a better judgement call than a referee can in a split second...so if that decision is wrong, it's more likely that said VAR is actually cheating bastirts, rather than just making an error or interpreting the rules pretty poorly
These kind of statements really are utterly ridiculous
So I asked the question above, because the fact things have went against Celtic seem to be all you care about
The issue is that similar incidents are being judged differently...that is the only issue
Goin by what you are saying, if the similar incidents had been judged differently, and none of them went against Celtic, you'd be perfectly fcking happy with that
Drop the bias $hite mate
Your team have had more penalties given to them than any other team in the league this season
Only one penalty has been given against you this season...the very soft call that went against you at Tynecastle yesterday
The minute that happens....our comes the bias bollox again...it's pathetic mate, so I'll say it again, fcking rein it in
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New sheriff in town!
People seem to think rangers fans are happy with Beaton but he has made plenty of terrible calls to our detriment. He is one of the worst.
As for var I'm pretty sure in England they make it all available because there is a var review show where the pundits go over it.
No reason it shouldn't be done here. Given their incompetence it would probably be a good laugh too.
Don "I don't know if it's handball or not, what's the rule again John."
John "No idea either mate. Feck it penalty to rangers"
Don "it's hearts mate"
"again, no one knows who made the request to go view the monitor. the ref can make the request to see it just as much as the VAR room can suggest he looks at it."
I was under the impression that only the VAR can call the referee over to the monitor if he feels a clear and obvious error has been made by the referee.....don't think the referee can actively ask for something to go VAR to validate, invalidate or even just make the decision for him
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
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Really! Deary me.
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted less than a minute ago
One thing that is absolutely clear though is that the handball rule is a joke that nobody really understands and when you add rubbish refs to the mix you just have a kind of penalty bingo system
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👍 The dusty, crusty old farts in Football Associations are to blame. They set the rules and they are clearly not working. In a similar vein, if players were booked for crowding round the ref then it would stop overnight. It works in Rugby - only the captain can question the ref. Likewise, in clear cases of simulation, give a red card and it would stop overnight. Too much sensible logic for the blazers to act upon.
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Eh, no, they don't - IFAB set the laws.
The association referee team can agree the way they are going to interpret them but variation is limited given the guidance they receive from IFAB.
Aside from that why do we need another tangent out of thin air for this thread?
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 seconds ago
"again, no one knows who made the request to go view the monitor. the ref can make the request to see it just as much as the VAR room can suggest he looks at it."
I was under the impression that only the VAR can call the referee over to the monitor if he feels a clear and obvious error has been made by the referee.....don't think the referee can actively ask for something to go VAR to validate, invalidate or even just make the decision for him
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nup, conversations go on and the ref can request to see something.
Like I said with the red card affair, the VAR room can say that the tackle was high are you happy that wasnt a red" the ref can then say "my view wasnt great or was blocked, let me look at it again"
So I think the actual rule is that VAR room needs to initiate the conversation but the ref can request a review based on that conversation like the example above.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted less than a minute ago
One thing that is absolutely clear though is that the handball rule is a joke that nobody really understands and when you add rubbish refs to the mix you just have a kind of penalty bingo system
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👍 The dusty, crusty old farts in Football Associations are to blame. They set the rules and they are clearly not working. In a similar vein, if players were booked for crowding round the ref then it would stop overnight. It works in Rugby - only the captain can question the ref. Likewise, in clear cases of simulation, give a red card and it would stop overnight. Too much sensible logic for the blazers to act upon.
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Eh, no, they don't - IFAB set the laws.
The association referee team can agree the way they are going to interpret them but variation is limited given the guidance they receive from IFAB.
Aside from that why do we need another tangent out of thin air for this thread?
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I was gonna say that but wasnt sure if the dusty old farts he was referring to where the IFAB team !
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
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Really! Deary me.
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Well what do you think of Brendans performance and the teams performance yesterday?
I havent heard any discussion on his team line up, his tactics or his players performance.
I only saw the last 15 minutes then repeats of the key incidents.
In that time I saw Maeda look like a 12 year old trying to control a football, tripping over it about 3 times when he tried to dribble.
I saw your big Norwich reserve striker miss a chance that was way easier than the one Shankland scored.
And in the highlights I saw your lad in centre mid dilly dallying on the ball and it leading to the Hearts goal that was chopped off for offside.
There seemed to be plenty to talk about in Celtics performance yesterday.
But Brendan has lit the orange touch paper and all the fans want to talk about is Beaton.
Which is exactly what Brendan wants....
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 17 minutes ago
Despite losing 2-0 to Hearts Celtic fans seem united and on the same page as the Manager.
Top class management by Brendan.
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He's certainly energised many fans on here - most of them bears right enough!
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
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McCausland got hurt because the Motherwell player made sure he 'left a bit on him' after sclaffing the ball away.
It was straight out the Ross Tokely playbook.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
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wtf?? Mcausland was trying to play the ball, not tackle !! he got caught cos he didnt $hite bag out of it and his leg was there to be smashed. He is trying to get a touch off the ball to play on.
the biggest critique I have is that he wasnt experienced enough to see it coming and not try to play the ball and brace for the impact or try to lessen it, IMO.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
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Wasn't given as a foul. Tbh I'm a bit like Stevie in that I didn't think it was a red and don't want to see players sent off. I don't think McCausland pulls out, just think its a pretty robust tackle.
Equally though its the inconsistency again. I've seen us have Cifuentes and Sterling sent off for far less robust tackles. If you looked at those two tackles plus the Casey one and asked someone unfamilar to pick the one that wasn't punished I'm not sure many would pick the Casey one.
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
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Wasn't given as a foul. Tbh I'm a bit like Stevie in that I didn't think it was a red and don't want to see players sent off. I don't think McCausland pulls out, just think its a pretty robust tackle.
Equally though its the inconsistency again. I've seen us have Cifuentes and Sterling sent off for far less robust tackles. If you looked at those two tackles plus the Casey one and asked someone unfamilar to pick the one that wasn't punished I'm not sure many would pick the Casey one.
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I think it was deffo a foul and at least a yellow. For sure more intent in it than the Sterling or Cifuentes reds though - neither of which were reds for me either.
And whatever you think of McCausland he isnt a sh£itbag. He was the most booked player in the Lowland League for the B team because when the cavemen in that league tried to bully him he stood up to them. Unfortunately he did it in the usual unsubtle style that wingers tend to do when they try to give a bit back.
Hes actually quite a hardy wee basser.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
maybe if all the clubs backed certain other clubs request for the audio's to made available then all of this would be far clearer and managers couldn't hide behind this sort of thing to hide their failures
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
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There you go again with massive assumptions.
I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?
Or maybe not.
It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
maybe if all the clubs backed certain other clubs request for the audio's to made available then all of this would be far clearer and managers couldn't hide behind this sort of thing to hide their failures
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They might if certain clubs didn’t set themselves up by demanding that certain officials never referee their games again.
Just a thought.
Or maybe, just maybe; people take such partisan views and revel in the misfortune of their rivals
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
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There you go again with massive assumptions.
I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?
Or maybe not.
It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
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opinion based ffs
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posted on 4/3/24
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
"The issue is that 2 very similar incidents at Fir Park last week were judged very differently. All 4 went against Celtic. That's not good."
What's not good?.....the fact that similar incidents were judged differently....or that everything went against Celtic?
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It's not good that everything went against Celtic. Ffs why is that difficult for you?.
4 massive decisions that were at least 50/50 or clearly should have gone to Celtic went the other way.
That's not good from my point of view. Probably great from yours.
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I'm asking these questions because you are implying that the refs have cheated, which is embarrassing
Your earlier post basically said that because VAR has time to look at incidents, they can make a better judgement call than a referee can in a split second...so if that decision is wrong, it's more likely that said VAR is actually cheating bastirts, rather than just making an error or interpreting the rules pretty poorly
These kind of statements really are utterly ridiculous
So I asked the question above, because the fact things have went against Celtic seem to be all you care about
The issue is that similar incidents are being judged differently...that is the only issue
Goin by what you are saying, if the similar incidents had been judged differently, and none of them went against Celtic, you'd be perfectly fcking happy with that
Drop the bias $hite mate
Your team have had more penalties given to them than any other team in the league this season
Only one penalty has been given against you this season...the very soft call that went against you at Tynecastle yesterday
The minute that happens....our comes the bias bollox again...it's pathetic mate, so I'll say it again, fcking rein it in
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New sheriff in town!
posted on 4/3/24
People seem to think rangers fans are happy with Beaton but he has made plenty of terrible calls to our detriment. He is one of the worst.
As for var I'm pretty sure in England they make it all available because there is a var review show where the pundits go over it.
No reason it shouldn't be done here. Given their incompetence it would probably be a good laugh too.
Don "I don't know if it's handball or not, what's the rule again John."
John "No idea either mate. Feck it penalty to rangers"
Don "it's hearts mate"
posted on 4/3/24
"again, no one knows who made the request to go view the monitor. the ref can make the request to see it just as much as the VAR room can suggest he looks at it."
I was under the impression that only the VAR can call the referee over to the monitor if he feels a clear and obvious error has been made by the referee.....don't think the referee can actively ask for something to go VAR to validate, invalidate or even just make the decision for him
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
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Really! Deary me.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted less than a minute ago
One thing that is absolutely clear though is that the handball rule is a joke that nobody really understands and when you add rubbish refs to the mix you just have a kind of penalty bingo system
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👍 The dusty, crusty old farts in Football Associations are to blame. They set the rules and they are clearly not working. In a similar vein, if players were booked for crowding round the ref then it would stop overnight. It works in Rugby - only the captain can question the ref. Likewise, in clear cases of simulation, give a red card and it would stop overnight. Too much sensible logic for the blazers to act upon.
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Eh, no, they don't - IFAB set the laws.
The association referee team can agree the way they are going to interpret them but variation is limited given the guidance they receive from IFAB.
Aside from that why do we need another tangent out of thin air for this thread?
posted on 4/3/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 seconds ago
"again, no one knows who made the request to go view the monitor. the ref can make the request to see it just as much as the VAR room can suggest he looks at it."
I was under the impression that only the VAR can call the referee over to the monitor if he feels a clear and obvious error has been made by the referee.....don't think the referee can actively ask for something to go VAR to validate, invalidate or even just make the decision for him
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nup, conversations go on and the ref can request to see something.
Like I said with the red card affair, the VAR room can say that the tackle was high are you happy that wasnt a red" the ref can then say "my view wasnt great or was blocked, let me look at it again"
So I think the actual rule is that VAR room needs to initiate the conversation but the ref can request a review based on that conversation like the example above.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted less than a minute ago
One thing that is absolutely clear though is that the handball rule is a joke that nobody really understands and when you add rubbish refs to the mix you just have a kind of penalty bingo system
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👍 The dusty, crusty old farts in Football Associations are to blame. They set the rules and they are clearly not working. In a similar vein, if players were booked for crowding round the ref then it would stop overnight. It works in Rugby - only the captain can question the ref. Likewise, in clear cases of simulation, give a red card and it would stop overnight. Too much sensible logic for the blazers to act upon.
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Eh, no, they don't - IFAB set the laws.
The association referee team can agree the way they are going to interpret them but variation is limited given the guidance they receive from IFAB.
Aside from that why do we need another tangent out of thin air for this thread?
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I was gonna say that but wasnt sure if the dusty old farts he was referring to where the IFAB team !
posted on 4/3/24
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 49 seconds ago
Why call out Beaton? Because he has ‘form” drinking with his Rangers pals in the pub. A few seasons ago he ignored 3 bookable offences committed by Morelos in a Rangers game against Celtic. Aye bit etc……
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That settles it - the Celtic player got sent off for kicking the Hearts player in the head because a few years ago there was a photo kicking about the internet of John Beaton in a pub.
Brendan knows how gullible an awfy lot of Celtic fans are.
There have been a lot of questions being asked about Rodgers recently.
None today.
He is playing the celtic fans like a fiddle.
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Really! Deary me.
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Well what do you think of Brendans performance and the teams performance yesterday?
I havent heard any discussion on his team line up, his tactics or his players performance.
I only saw the last 15 minutes then repeats of the key incidents.
In that time I saw Maeda look like a 12 year old trying to control a football, tripping over it about 3 times when he tried to dribble.
I saw your big Norwich reserve striker miss a chance that was way easier than the one Shankland scored.
And in the highlights I saw your lad in centre mid dilly dallying on the ball and it leading to the Hearts goal that was chopped off for offside.
There seemed to be plenty to talk about in Celtics performance yesterday.
But Brendan has lit the orange touch paper and all the fans want to talk about is Beaton.
Which is exactly what Brendan wants....
posted on 4/3/24
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 17 minutes ago
Despite losing 2-0 to Hearts Celtic fans seem united and on the same page as the Manager.
Top class management by Brendan.
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He's certainly energised many fans on here - most of them bears right enough!
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
posted on 4/3/24
McCausland even
posted on 4/3/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
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McCausland got hurt because the Motherwell player made sure he 'left a bit on him' after sclaffing the ball away.
It was straight out the Ross Tokely playbook.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted about a minute ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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See to be honest, only one I hugely disagree with there is the Casey tackle
That's not a red for me, guy clearly plays the ball
MaCausland only really got hurt because his tackle was straight oot the Borna Barisic school of $hitbaggery.....or maybe I'm just a bit old school
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wtf?? Mcausland was trying to play the ball, not tackle !! he got caught cos he didnt $hite bag out of it and his leg was there to be smashed. He is trying to get a touch off the ball to play on.
the biggest critique I have is that he wasnt experienced enough to see it coming and not try to play the ball and brace for the impact or try to lessen it, IMO.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
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Wasn't given as a foul. Tbh I'm a bit like Stevie in that I didn't think it was a red and don't want to see players sent off. I don't think McCausland pulls out, just think its a pretty robust tackle.
Equally though its the inconsistency again. I've seen us have Cifuentes and Sterling sent off for far less robust tackles. If you looked at those two tackles plus the Casey one and asked someone unfamilar to pick the one that wasn't punished I'm not sure many would pick the Casey one.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 30 seconds ago
Ref watch on Sky - all saying Casey should have been sent off vs us.
Dermot thinks the Celtic pen isn’t a pen. Neither do others.
Dermot think it’s a red card for Yuan. Others don’t - Stephen Warmock and a woman.
All don’t think Hearts should’ve had a pen.
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Madden did a post saying Casey should have had red too. The fact he went on to score the winner could have a huge impact on the title race, just four days after Rangers concede a pen that is universally agreed as not a pen and don't get a pen that is universally agreed as a pen.
Conspiracy.
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McCausland left the stadium on crutches on saturday.
We are now officially out of wingers (Scott Wright doesnt count).
Not sure it was even given as a foul - it certainly wasnt even a booking. The boy knew exactly what he was doing when he went in for that tackle. Made sure he got a bit of the ball and a bit of the player.
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Wasn't given as a foul. Tbh I'm a bit like Stevie in that I didn't think it was a red and don't want to see players sent off. I don't think McCausland pulls out, just think its a pretty robust tackle.
Equally though its the inconsistency again. I've seen us have Cifuentes and Sterling sent off for far less robust tackles. If you looked at those two tackles plus the Casey one and asked someone unfamilar to pick the one that wasn't punished I'm not sure many would pick the Casey one.
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I think it was deffo a foul and at least a yellow. For sure more intent in it than the Sterling or Cifuentes reds though - neither of which were reds for me either.
And whatever you think of McCausland he isnt a sh£itbag. He was the most booked player in the Lowland League for the B team because when the cavemen in that league tried to bully him he stood up to them. Unfortunately he did it in the usual unsubtle style that wingers tend to do when they try to give a bit back.
Hes actually quite a hardy wee basser.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
posted on 4/3/24
maybe if all the clubs backed certain other clubs request for the audio's to made available then all of this would be far clearer and managers couldn't hide behind this sort of thing to hide their failures
posted on 4/3/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
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There you go again with massive assumptions.
I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?
Or maybe not.
It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
posted on 4/3/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
maybe if all the clubs backed certain other clubs request for the audio's to made available then all of this would be far clearer and managers couldn't hide behind this sort of thing to hide their failures
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They might if certain clubs didn’t set themselves up by demanding that certain officials never referee their games again.
Just a thought.
Or maybe, just maybe; people take such partisan views and revel in the misfortune of their rivals
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 minutes ago
John Beaton didnt make a single error during the Hearts game. He didnt award any fouls , penalties or red cards durig that game.
What decision Is Rodgers going on about that Beaton was wrong on.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse for the fwckabootery or don’t you genuinely understand that VAR decided to get involved in every single contentious decision. In doing that they heavily intimated the referee got them wrong and provided whatever lines, stills or the likes to support it.
Add in a lily livered referee who now has an easy scapegoat and the end result is 99% the same.
VAR has gone way beyond its brief now and is in reality damaging the game as a spectacle.
It was a simple process. If there’s a very clear and obvious mistake then get involved. If not, let the referee do his job. What’s happening now is that practically every penalty box incident is scrutinised to “try” and find something wrong.
It’s awful. For every team that is.
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John Beaton didnt make any decision that influenced the game.
You have no idea what discussions took place between the ref and Beaton or any other VAR room.
The ref can request to review something after conversation with VAR it doesnt have to be the refs in the room.
If the ref is in discussion and there is a difference in perspective the ref can request to see the video. its not just the VAR room.
Rodgers said that Beaton and VAR cost you the game, all decisions were made by the ref. Im asking for clarification on how he cost you the points like he claims.
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You gebuinny didn’t get what I wrote?
Okay. I’ll leave it there
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I did you have no idea if the ref called for a VAR replay or the VAR room instructed him to go look at incidents.
for eg, the high boot, VAR room: "that was a high boot head level you are happy that not a red." Ref: "I couldnt see it properly tbh, there was a player in the way, let me see it again"
thats a perfectly plausible sequence of events, but we will go with the narrative that Beaton made the call, he is trying to influence the ref.
you played $hit , got pumped and deserved what you got, Rodgers played the VAR card to deflect and your all falling hook line and sinker for it.
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. Dearie me.
Aye. We’re all gullible according to your gospel. Have a proper read ffs instead of this hilarious cover all bases nonsense as to what we think as individuals and as a support.
And while you’re at it, try and find anyone who is enamoured in any way with Rodgers or what tripe he comes out with.
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your the one basing your opinion on zero facts.
you or Rodgers have zero clue about the conversations that happened and who requested what or what the ref did and didnt see.
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There you go again with massive assumptions.
I assume this basis of me and/or Rodgers having no idea, applies equally to yourself?
Or maybe not.
It’s an option based forum. You appear to struggle with that concept. I’ll leave you to it. Flight to catch and all the jazz
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opinion based ffs
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