You don't have go to Celtic and win. That's what made the draw so important yesterday. You just need a point there.
advantage celtic, only slightly.
However on the flipside, if we beat all the other teams then we wont need to win away to Celtic.
Mental game yesterday
Also yellow warning of rain for Tuesday into Wednesday. Good luck with that.
No I get that but a win there would I think just about clinch it in our favour whereas a draw would see it go all the way.
Celtic slight favourites. Felt going into the game we needed to win to take control of the title.
I didn't think they were hugely impressive in the first half as much as we were utterly hopeless. Same as i didn't think we had to be great to score 3 in the second half.
A few players returning from injuries recently should help us in the run in. Would also hope that Clement has seen enough of Tavernier v Maeda that in the next fixture he goes Sterling at RB and Tav ahead of him.
Celtic will fancy their chances of winning the next OF. Even if they do, winning all of our other matches will probably be enough.
Also need to remember that both teams will have to play Hearts and Kilmarnock who will both be trying to beat Celtic, and lose to Rangers.
It's going to be a pretty exciting last round of fixtures.
Both teams go knowing that if you win all your games then you win the league. The split will actually feel exciting, likely neck and neck going into it and 5 games against the top teams to decide the league.
I do think Celtic have the slight advantage with the home old firm but what impact will losing the lead twice have? Who knows?
What we do have is a proper end of season title race for the first time in over 10 years. It's great stuff.
Agree with the point about the ref (with the aid of var) got all the big calls right. Yet 2 usual suspects in the media would have you believe he got them all wrong. It's a shame, our refs are bad so when they get it right they shouldn't be getting abused for it.
The grief should be on the players rather than the ref.
Goldson, Tavernier and Lundstram for Rangers. All 3 fooking useless yesterday. The amount of times they gave the ball away between them was incredible when they are supposed to be the spine of our team.
McGregor for Celtic to come on an shore it up, has a wee tiff with Cantwell then gives the goal away to Sima. Put his clown shoes on rather than his football boots I think..
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 7 seconds ago
The grief should be on the players rather than the ref.
Goldson, Tavernier and Lundstram for Rangers. All 3 fooking useless yesterday. The amount of times they gave the ball away between them was incredible when they are supposed to be the spine of our team.
McGregor for Celtic to come on an shore it up, has a wee tiff with Cantwell then gives the goal away to Sima. Put his clown shoes on rather than his football boots I think..
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They need to work on that goal in training. I'm sick of seeing it. Long ball down the middle. Neither CB goes for it leaving a huge gap. Doesn't seem to matter which CB is playing with Goldson so it's definitely an organisation thing.
Tav clearly panicked too, could have hit it to keeper or out for corner instead of trying to get a throw, but 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces off meada and nowhere near the net
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's going to be a pretty exciting last round of fixtures.
Both teams go knowing that if you win all your games then you win the league. The split will actually feel exciting, likely neck and neck going into it and 5 games against the top teams to decide the league.
I do think Celtic have the slight advantage with the home old firm but what impact will losing the lead twice have? Who knows?
What we do have is a proper end of season title race for the first time in over 10 years. It's great stuff.
Agree with the point about the ref (with the aid of var) got all the big calls right. Yet 2 usual suspects in the media would have you believe he got them all wrong. It's a shame, our refs are bad so when they get it right they shouldn't be getting abused for it.
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I think the sad thing for me is that it was a great game. So many more important talking points and chance to talk up the game.
You could disagree with the Rangers pen but it was easy to see why it was given. It wasn't a shambles of a decision, probably 50/50. There were no referee calls yesterday that deserve any level of attention away from the football.
thought Celtic were brilliant first half and should've put the game to bed which is the frustrating thing
we were poor second half but despite Rangers having most of the ball werent creating anything until the dodgy penalty and then again after it disallowed goal aside (how's he missed the foul on Iwata)
but for us to 3-2 in front and still not see it out, it's unforgivable.
What I will say is I'm probably the most confident now than I have been for a few months that we'll win the league
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
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People keep saying "but he got the ball" as if that makes it not a foul.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 39 minutes ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
where's he supposed to put his leg after he wins the ball?
"How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?"
Broke the habit of a lifetime and watched the Sportscene highlights. The main commentator (dunno who it was) on the penalty incident repeated 3 or 4 times on commentary "he won the ball" and by inference the contact was not enough to justify the theatrics and 'never a penalty '. Peter Grant & Neil McCann in the studio toed the Beaton party line.
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 39 minutes ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
where's he supposed to put his leg after he wins the ball?
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not in a position that impedes the attacker in possession of the ball
Too close to call - I think I would argue we have the slight edge given more home games and the last derby is at Celtic Park. Rangers can however make up for that knowing that they will likely not need to win the game and just avoid defeat (barring any surprise f*ck up between now and then).
With the way the season has been going though I could see us dropping points in one of these two final away games, one of which is Killie who have given us a torrid time this season.
As for the ref - not surprised he's getting praise from a Rangers perspective as he called far more fouls against us than Rangers and didn't book any Rangers players.
And with the big calls, without VAR intervention he'd have got every one wrong, how he doesn't see the Iwata foul right in front of his eyes is baffling.
we could have been out the league race after this game , excellent that its still in our hands
Hatate - superb yesterday and he just showcased what we have been missing with him being out most of the season , players like him can make the difference
both teams need to be squeeky clean now
comment by Paddy (U5235)
posted 20 minutes ago
Too close to call - I think I would argue we have the slight edge given more home games and the last derby is at Celtic Park. Rangers can however make up for that knowing that they will likely not need to win the game and just avoid defeat (barring any surprise f*ck up between now and then).
With the way the season has been going though I could see us dropping points in one of these two final away games, one of which is Killie who have given us a torrid time this season.
As for the ref - not surprised he's getting praise from a Rangers perspective as he called far more fouls against us than Rangers and didn't book any Rangers players.
And with the big calls, without VAR intervention he'd have got every one wrong, how he doesn't see the Iwata foul right in front of his eyes is baffling.
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It's a good point, without var he would have got all 3 wrong although I do think refs let more go if they are in doubt knowing var can review. Rightly or wrongly.
We haven't found it easy against kille either.
The split will actually be quite exciting for the title run in. Who does best against the top 5 other teams will win the league.
Mental folk are saying he won the ball, he got a slight flick to the ball, and was exactly where Silva wanted the ball to be - ball was still in Silva’s control
This got the ball first is a nonsense - goes against the rules. As per IFAB ‘playing the ball (first) does not necessarily mean that a challenge is legal’
What football have people been watching the last five years, this isn’t new.
On more fouls being awarded to Rangers that’s simply because Celtic players committed more fouls, would appear to be tactical fouling, that or your players are simply pash poor at tackling.
It’s happened in our last two games now. Wouldn’t be unusual, was a well known Pep tactic.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
On more fouls being awarded to Rangers that’s simply because Celtic players committed more fouls, would appear to be tactical fouling, that or your players are simply pash poor at tackling.
It’s happened in our last two games now. Wouldn’t be unusual, was a well known Pep tactic.
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Ccv got away with 3 yellow card offences early on. Even Sutton was surprised he hadn't got one on a few occasions
he's tried to knock it past Johnston whos flicked his leg out and won the ball and then Silva has just fell into him
look at the reactions of the fans behind the tackle, they're all telling him to get up, he was at it all game
it amazes me that they looked at that and gave a penalty but never gave Kyogo one at Livi last week, whem the boys went through the back of him and not won the ball
i don't believe celtic will win the league this season, i think even if we win the old firm our form this season suggests we will drop points elsewhere, and i think more likely to than rangers as we struggle to break teams down.
if you asked both teams yesterday if they would be content with a draw, most celtic fans would say yes and rangers would want the win.
the draw helps us more than rangers obviously.
state of mcgregor with that pass man, are we allowed to criticise him?
its not a penalty, but i can see why beaton gives it if he saw the same footage we did, it doesn't show johnson winning the ball first.
who decided to cut that bit out?
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posted on 8/4/24
You don't have go to Celtic and win. That's what made the draw so important yesterday. You just need a point there.
posted on 8/4/24
advantage celtic, only slightly.
However on the flipside, if we beat all the other teams then we wont need to win away to Celtic.
Mental game yesterday
posted on 8/4/24
Also yellow warning of rain for Tuesday into Wednesday. Good luck with that.
posted on 8/4/24
No I get that but a win there would I think just about clinch it in our favour whereas a draw would see it go all the way.
posted on 8/4/24
Celtic slight favourites. Felt going into the game we needed to win to take control of the title.
I didn't think they were hugely impressive in the first half as much as we were utterly hopeless. Same as i didn't think we had to be great to score 3 in the second half.
A few players returning from injuries recently should help us in the run in. Would also hope that Clement has seen enough of Tavernier v Maeda that in the next fixture he goes Sterling at RB and Tav ahead of him.
Celtic will fancy their chances of winning the next OF. Even if they do, winning all of our other matches will probably be enough.
posted on 8/4/24
Also need to remember that both teams will have to play Hearts and Kilmarnock who will both be trying to beat Celtic, and lose to Rangers.
posted on 8/4/24
It's going to be a pretty exciting last round of fixtures.
Both teams go knowing that if you win all your games then you win the league. The split will actually feel exciting, likely neck and neck going into it and 5 games against the top teams to decide the league.
I do think Celtic have the slight advantage with the home old firm but what impact will losing the lead twice have? Who knows?
What we do have is a proper end of season title race for the first time in over 10 years. It's great stuff.
Agree with the point about the ref (with the aid of var) got all the big calls right. Yet 2 usual suspects in the media would have you believe he got them all wrong. It's a shame, our refs are bad so when they get it right they shouldn't be getting abused for it.
posted on 8/4/24
The grief should be on the players rather than the ref.
Goldson, Tavernier and Lundstram for Rangers. All 3 fooking useless yesterday. The amount of times they gave the ball away between them was incredible when they are supposed to be the spine of our team.
McGregor for Celtic to come on an shore it up, has a wee tiff with Cantwell then gives the goal away to Sima. Put his clown shoes on rather than his football boots I think..
posted on 8/4/24
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 7 seconds ago
The grief should be on the players rather than the ref.
Goldson, Tavernier and Lundstram for Rangers. All 3 fooking useless yesterday. The amount of times they gave the ball away between them was incredible when they are supposed to be the spine of our team.
McGregor for Celtic to come on an shore it up, has a wee tiff with Cantwell then gives the goal away to Sima. Put his clown shoes on rather than his football boots I think..
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They need to work on that goal in training. I'm sick of seeing it. Long ball down the middle. Neither CB goes for it leaving a huge gap. Doesn't seem to matter which CB is playing with Goldson so it's definitely an organisation thing.
Tav clearly panicked too, could have hit it to keeper or out for corner instead of trying to get a throw, but 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces off meada and nowhere near the net
posted on 8/4/24
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's going to be a pretty exciting last round of fixtures.
Both teams go knowing that if you win all your games then you win the league. The split will actually feel exciting, likely neck and neck going into it and 5 games against the top teams to decide the league.
I do think Celtic have the slight advantage with the home old firm but what impact will losing the lead twice have? Who knows?
What we do have is a proper end of season title race for the first time in over 10 years. It's great stuff.
Agree with the point about the ref (with the aid of var) got all the big calls right. Yet 2 usual suspects in the media would have you believe he got them all wrong. It's a shame, our refs are bad so when they get it right they shouldn't be getting abused for it.
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I think the sad thing for me is that it was a great game. So many more important talking points and chance to talk up the game.
You could disagree with the Rangers pen but it was easy to see why it was given. It wasn't a shambles of a decision, probably 50/50. There were no referee calls yesterday that deserve any level of attention away from the football.
posted on 8/4/24
thought Celtic were brilliant first half and should've put the game to bed which is the frustrating thing
we were poor second half but despite Rangers having most of the ball werent creating anything until the dodgy penalty and then again after it disallowed goal aside (how's he missed the foul on Iwata)
but for us to 3-2 in front and still not see it out, it's unforgivable.
What I will say is I'm probably the most confident now than I have been for a few months that we'll win the league
posted on 8/4/24
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
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People keep saying "but he got the ball" as if that makes it not a foul.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 39 minutes ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
where's he supposed to put his leg after he wins the ball?
posted on 8/4/24
"How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?"
Broke the habit of a lifetime and watched the Sportscene highlights. The main commentator (dunno who it was) on the penalty incident repeated 3 or 4 times on commentary "he won the ball" and by inference the contact was not enough to justify the theatrics and 'never a penalty '. Peter Grant & Neil McCann in the studio toed the Beaton party line.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 39 minutes ago
How are people still claiming it's a dodgy penalty after seeing the replay?
It's practically the same foul that the Dessers goal is ruled out for.
where's he supposed to put his leg after he wins the ball?
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not in a position that impedes the attacker in possession of the ball
posted on 8/4/24
Too close to call - I think I would argue we have the slight edge given more home games and the last derby is at Celtic Park. Rangers can however make up for that knowing that they will likely not need to win the game and just avoid defeat (barring any surprise f*ck up between now and then).
With the way the season has been going though I could see us dropping points in one of these two final away games, one of which is Killie who have given us a torrid time this season.
As for the ref - not surprised he's getting praise from a Rangers perspective as he called far more fouls against us than Rangers and didn't book any Rangers players.
And with the big calls, without VAR intervention he'd have got every one wrong, how he doesn't see the Iwata foul right in front of his eyes is baffling.
posted on 8/4/24
we could have been out the league race after this game , excellent that its still in our hands
Hatate - superb yesterday and he just showcased what we have been missing with him being out most of the season , players like him can make the difference
both teams need to be squeeky clean now
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Paddy (U5235)
posted 20 minutes ago
Too close to call - I think I would argue we have the slight edge given more home games and the last derby is at Celtic Park. Rangers can however make up for that knowing that they will likely not need to win the game and just avoid defeat (barring any surprise f*ck up between now and then).
With the way the season has been going though I could see us dropping points in one of these two final away games, one of which is Killie who have given us a torrid time this season.
As for the ref - not surprised he's getting praise from a Rangers perspective as he called far more fouls against us than Rangers and didn't book any Rangers players.
And with the big calls, without VAR intervention he'd have got every one wrong, how he doesn't see the Iwata foul right in front of his eyes is baffling.
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It's a good point, without var he would have got all 3 wrong although I do think refs let more go if they are in doubt knowing var can review. Rightly or wrongly.
We haven't found it easy against kille either.
The split will actually be quite exciting for the title run in. Who does best against the top 5 other teams will win the league.
posted on 8/4/24
Mental folk are saying he won the ball, he got a slight flick to the ball, and was exactly where Silva wanted the ball to be - ball was still in Silva’s control
This got the ball first is a nonsense - goes against the rules. As per IFAB ‘playing the ball (first) does not necessarily mean that a challenge is legal’
What football have people been watching the last five years, this isn’t new.
posted on 8/4/24
On more fouls being awarded to Rangers that’s simply because Celtic players committed more fouls, would appear to be tactical fouling, that or your players are simply pash poor at tackling.
It’s happened in our last two games now. Wouldn’t be unusual, was a well known Pep tactic.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
On more fouls being awarded to Rangers that’s simply because Celtic players committed more fouls, would appear to be tactical fouling, that or your players are simply pash poor at tackling.
It’s happened in our last two games now. Wouldn’t be unusual, was a well known Pep tactic.
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Ccv got away with 3 yellow card offences early on. Even Sutton was surprised he hadn't got one on a few occasions
posted on 8/4/24
he's tried to knock it past Johnston whos flicked his leg out and won the ball and then Silva has just fell into him
look at the reactions of the fans behind the tackle, they're all telling him to get up, he was at it all game
it amazes me that they looked at that and gave a penalty but never gave Kyogo one at Livi last week, whem the boys went through the back of him and not won the ball
posted on 8/4/24
i don't believe celtic will win the league this season, i think even if we win the old firm our form this season suggests we will drop points elsewhere, and i think more likely to than rangers as we struggle to break teams down.
if you asked both teams yesterday if they would be content with a draw, most celtic fans would say yes and rangers would want the win.
the draw helps us more than rangers obviously.
state of mcgregor with that pass man, are we allowed to criticise him?
posted on 8/4/24
its not a penalty, but i can see why beaton gives it if he saw the same footage we did, it doesn't show johnson winning the ball first.
who decided to cut that bit out?
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