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posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by lauders (U9757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Glen kamara signs for Rennes for 8.5m

Some rumours of a sell on for us
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That will cover the Hampden costs
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No it won’t

We don’t even know the extent of the Hampden costs as there is no end date.
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Even better

I know it was 30 years ago but I recall my dad had a season ticket when we spent a year at Hampden and he said that the SFA charged Celtic through the nose for it

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by lauders (U9757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Glen kamara signs for Rennes for 8.5m

Some rumours of a sell on for us
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That will cover the Hampden costs
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No it won’t

We don’t even know the extent of the Hampden costs as there is no end date.
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Even better

I know it was 30 years ago but I recall my dad had a season ticket when we spent a year at Hampden and he said that the SFA charged Celtic through the nose for it
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£500,000 for the season 30 years ago.

posted on 17/7/24

It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.

Getting them back and setting up a new programme is the issue and I don’t believe there is still a fixed certainty as to when works can commence although surely that must be getting clearer by now.

The fact that Rangers don’t appear to be able to put in a targeted completion date (the date for using Hampden was given by the SFA) suggests something more than just a delay in materials. Of course that could very easily be completely wrong. I just don’t see why the club can’t say “based on product arriving on x date, we envisage being back at Ibrox by y date”. Something doesn’t add up in my mind anyway.

We get project delays all the time. With every one there is at the very least a “new” completion date.

And this will absolutely impact on budgets and future spending.

That’s before the SFA start on catering and merchandising.

posted on 17/7/24

labour is the x-factor i suppose, because as you say contractors aren't going to wait about, they have other jobs in the pipeline.

posted on 17/7/24

must be weird being a rangers fans

"f... the SNP!"

"help, help us SNP, we need money because of covid, oh thank you, thank you so much SNP for saving us"

"F... the SFA"

"help, help us SFA, we need a stadium because we couldn't manage an 0rgy in a brothel, oh thank you, thank you so much SFA for saving us"

phannies.

posted on 17/7/24

Could Old Rangers not put New Rangers in touch with that Steel and Logistics fella the knew. What’s his name? David Murray? He might even do it for a quid!

posted on 17/7/24

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 36 minutes ago
labour is the x-factor i suppose, because as you say contractors aren't going to wait about, they have other jobs in the pipeline.
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Rangers may be able to claim against the contractor for costs as a result of any delays which can be laid at theirs or their sub contractors door unless Force Majeure comes into it.

Another court room brawl maybe?

posted on 17/7/24

is lauders about, i need a favour from him

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 36 minutes ago
labour is the x-factor i suppose, because as you say contractors aren't going to wait about, they have other jobs in the pipeline.
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Rangers may be able to claim against the contractor for costs as a result of any delays which can be laid at theirs or their sub contractors door unless Force Majeure comes into it.

Another court room brawl maybe?
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Thats an excellent point.

what i will say is that i used to work in the oil and gas industry, dealing with FPSO's.

The amount of times a vessells expected completion date was delayed due to our company or anothers was frightening, that said, can't say it was met with anything other than rage, certainly not any legal ramifications.

lucky tbh.

rangers are different though, if their players fart during a match they would charge you for smelling it

posted on 17/7/24

‘ can't say it was met with anything other than rage’

Well, this should be a new experience for rangers fans then.

posted on 17/7/24

rangers fans are fat

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.

Getting them back and setting up a new programme is the issue and I don’t believe there is still a fixed certainty as to when works can commence although surely that must be getting clearer by now.

The fact that Rangers don’t appear to be able to put in a targeted completion date (the date for using Hampden was given by the SFA) suggests something more than just a delay in materials. Of course that could very easily be completely wrong. I just don’t see why the club can’t say “based on product arriving on x date, we envisage being back at Ibrox by y date”. Something doesn’t add up in my mind anyway.

We get project delays all the time. With every one there is at the very least a “new” completion date.

And this will absolutely impact on budgets and future spending.

That’s before the SFA start on catering and merchandising.
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I am just off a Programme Board discussing costs to the delays to a significant delivery. The costs for pausing the work were eye watering due to exactly what you said - starting up again, costs into new FY, re-designing etc. So I dread to think what these costs would look like in a construction world

posted on 17/7/24

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 29 minutes ago
is lauders about, i need a favour from him
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He is either

a. breaking up with someone
b. drinking with Zachsda
c. In Ibiza
d. all of the above

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 36 minutes ago
labour is the x-factor i suppose, because as you say contractors aren't going to wait about, they have other jobs in the pipeline.
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Rangers may be able to claim against the contractor for costs as a result of any delays which can be laid at theirs or their sub contractors door unless Force Majeure comes into it.

Another court room brawl maybe?
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Tims cuttin' about Port Said trying to jam the locks on the Suez

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.

Getting them back and setting up a new programme is the issue and I don’t believe there is still a fixed certainty as to when works can commence although surely that must be getting clearer by now.

The fact that Rangers don’t appear to be able to put in a targeted completion date (the date for using Hampden was given by the SFA) suggests something more than just a delay in materials. Of course that could very easily be completely wrong. I just don’t see why the club can’t say “based on product arriving on x date, we envisage being back at Ibrox by y date”. Something doesn’t add up in my mind anyway.

We get project delays all the time. With every one there is at the very least a “new” completion date.

And this will absolutely impact on budgets and future spending.

That’s before the SFA start on catering and merchandising.
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I am just off a Programme Board discussing costs to the delays to a significant delivery. The costs for pausing the work were eye watering due to exactly what you said - starting up again, costs into new FY, re-designing etc. So I dread to think what these costs would look like in a construction world
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Had a discussion with a bear the other day about shipping being notoriously difficult to predict from long distances and that’s if they’ve even loaded the goods.

His answer was “aye but they can track shipping”

Ok. So they can track it being delayed then. That’s ok

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.
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Meh, corporate boxes are full of died in the wool bears who's employees are always offering their services for free 'fur giein ra big hoose a new fresh look'

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.

Getting them back and setting up a new programme is the issue and I don’t believe there is still a fixed certainty as to when works can commence although surely that must be getting clearer by now.

The fact that Rangers don’t appear to be able to put in a targeted completion date (the date for using Hampden was given by the SFA) suggests something more than just a delay in materials. Of course that could very easily be completely wrong. I just don’t see why the club can’t say “based on product arriving on x date, we envisage being back at Ibrox by y date”. Something doesn’t add up in my mind anyway.

We get project delays all the time. With every one there is at the very least a “new” completion date.

And this will absolutely impact on budgets and future spending.

That’s before the SFA start on catering and merchandising.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am just off a Programme Board discussing costs to the delays to a significant delivery. The costs for pausing the work were eye watering due to exactly what you said - starting up again, costs into new FY, re-designing etc. So I dread to think what these costs would look like in a construction world
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Had a discussion with a bear the other day about shipping being notoriously difficult to predict from long distances and that’s if they’ve even loaded the goods.

His answer was “aye but they can track shipping”

Ok. So they can track it being delayed then. That’s ok
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Would be funny if it all arrived and they screwed up the order. At the very least Kyogo and Hatate should have had a word and got it painted green.

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
It’s not just the steel arriving late; the main costs will be on the following trades whose programmes will be out the window. People don’t hang around waiting on a project that has been interrupted. They move on.

Getting them back and setting up a new programme is the issue and I don’t believe there is still a fixed certainty as to when works can commence although surely that must be getting clearer by now.

The fact that Rangers don’t appear to be able to put in a targeted completion date (the date for using Hampden was given by the SFA) suggests something more than just a delay in materials. Of course that could very easily be completely wrong. I just don’t see why the club can’t say “based on product arriving on x date, we envisage being back at Ibrox by y date”. Something doesn’t add up in my mind anyway.

We get project delays all the time. With every one there is at the very least a “new” completion date.

And this will absolutely impact on budgets and future spending.

That’s before the SFA start on catering and merchandising.
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I am just off a Programme Board discussing costs to the delays to a significant delivery. The costs for pausing the work were eye watering due to exactly what you said - starting up again, costs into new FY, re-designing etc. So I dread to think what these costs would look like in a construction world
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Had a discussion with a bear the other day about shipping being notoriously difficult to predict from long distances and that’s if they’ve even loaded the goods.

His answer was “aye but they can track shipping”

Ok. So they can track it being delayed then. That’s ok
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i don't know how much material they need, the quantity, dimensions etc, but if its coming from china its going to be about 6 weeks on the sea surely plus clearance.

if its a substantial amount of material then that may rule out air freight, for the cost alone.

that said, if it really is the suppliers fault they could perhaps work something out where the supplier covers the cost difference between sea and air, or at least makes a contribution.

posted on 17/7/24

Its all just speculation in terms of how long it is actually going to take and what it is actually going to cost.

Its pretty obvious why Rangers dont want to give an end date right now - because they will get slaughtered in the media if they dont meet it. And it doesnt matter whether they caveat any projected return dates with common sense statements about potential further delays - the tabloids and their audience arent interested in anything like that.

If Rangers suggest Ibrox may be ready say 14th september and its not then thats a few more papers sold to the masses that lap that nonsense up.

Of course it was pure stupidity not to have the steel Quality approved and sitting in a storage facility the day the last game was played at Ibrox.

Anyone who has ever imported anything at all from china will know you are very lucky if it arrives on time, in full and to the appropriate quality standard.

It has been a shambles of course, but I fully maintain that the transfer approach for this preseason was set well before this delay in the Copland works came to light. After some of the wages for the leavers were pretty much allocated to some budget siginings it was going to be sell before you can buy for any decent value signings.

The squad was too big at 30+ and they want to get it down to around 25/26. I think from here on in they essentially need to sell two to get one new one in.

posted on 17/7/24

The squad was too big at 30+
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I’ve had a few exes gone that way.

posted on 17/7/24

Of course it was pure stupidity not to have the steel Quality approved and sitting in a storage facility the day the last game was played at Ibrox.
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I agree, but paying for storage may have been frowned upon.

Wonder what payment terms they had, whether that had anything to do with when material was ordered.

posted on 17/7/24

Pre purchase and storage of material would have mean increased costs and up front payments in full. Then there’s the cost of insurance, storage and double handling.

All feasible but more expensive and maybe Rangers didn’t award the contract until a date that was too late for this to happen.

posted on 17/7/24

To be fair, most of the slaughtering has come from your own fans-quite rightly with the lack of communication.

I assume that’s the tabloids’ audience you’re referring to, although again, I’ve not seen the papers going in 2 footed on your board. Maybe cos they seem to be blaming Bisgrove for anything that’s going wrong.

posted on 17/7/24

I did laugh at a comment I seen about the RAF going out, landing on the freight ships to collect the material and then flying it into Glasgow

Why should they do that? "Because Rangers are the quintessential British club"

Let's just ignore the idea of a C17 landing on tof of ISO containers!

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
Not seeing any serious links for any of the players we're needing to shift except maybe Lammers. Hagi's agent is trying his best but seems no one is interested.

Saudi links are just lazy fan media talk from people who are dreaming of us getting silly money for someone. Those clubs have a mountain of cash to spend on a limited quota of foreign players, they're going to have their sights on far better players than the ones we're trying to punt. The Jota transfer was an aberration, not a benchmark.
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There’sa bid in for tav today

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