comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
Gething is finally stepping down Diafol, the priiick should’ve read the room months ago. Stupid mug
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Yes, I knew a while ago! We've been in crisis mode here this morning!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 13 seconds ago
I'll be happy with Potter if it's him. At least he is more adventurous.
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Is he though....he had a dreadful scoring record at Brighton.

DeZerbi came in and took them from scoring at best 42 goals under Potter and they hit 72, even last season, which was less impressive 54 goals.

At Chelsea, Potter managed 29 goals in 28 PL games before being sacked.

Ive always thought of him as having a bit of a blind spot when his teams get to the final third.
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He is better than Southgate and the pool of managers is weak.

comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 27 seconds ago
So the next manager has to be win the world cup. Good luck to him/her.
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not really, it was southgate's choice to leave.
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But what is the expectation of the next manager if losing finalist is not good enough.

The majority of international teams play horrendous football.
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I used to subscribe to this too but it seems like the times are changing. Portugal in 2016 and France in 2018 were always used to defend Southgate but the last two euros winners and the world cup winner have created a lot more and had more of the ball.

Think international football might finally be catching up to domestic football now that most the players have been coached in this style now
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I think Spain are the outlier. Even Argentina bored everyone to a Copa America and in the World cup it was more the Messi factor than entertainment.

Just say we got Klopp and it was the heavy metal stuff but then we lost on pens in a QF. Would that be acceptable?
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it's not really about now entertaining it is, it's that fundamentally if you are consistently creating fewer chances than your opponent then you are not set up to succeed.

if I believed that southgate's style of football was the best way to win at this level then I wouldn't care about how entertaining it was.

For me Southgate has taken this England team as far as he can. He lacks in too many areas to truly get us to the next level, and he's proven that over time.

He has certainly united the England team and the support and brought a lot of pride back, with players wanting to be part of it and fans embracing it more., but a change is needed.

Personally I would go with the Wolves manager, Gary O'Neil. A modern, exciting passionate manager IMO.

Southgate was always a very limited-ability manager and did the best he could. Thanks and good luck to him.

If we were to appoint Jurgen Klopp (ain’t gonna happen), we’d win the 2026 World Cup (so, ain’t gonna happen).

comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 27 seconds ago
So the next manager has to be win the world cup. Good luck to him/her.
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not really, it was southgate's choice to leave.
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But what is the expectation of the next manager if losing finalist is not good enough.

The majority of international teams play horrendous football.
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I used to subscribe to this too but it seems like the times are changing. Portugal in 2016 and France in 2018 were always used to defend Southgate but the last two euros winners and the world cup winner have created a lot more and had more of the ball.

Think international football might finally be catching up to domestic football now that most the players have been coached in this style now
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I think Spain are the outlier. Even Argentina bored everyone to a Copa America and in the World cup it was more the Messi factor than entertainment.

Just say we got Klopp and it was the heavy metal stuff but then we lost on pens in a QF. Would that be acceptable?
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Either way wins nothing. You might as well be fun if you’re gonna lose. Especially if you get 8 years in charge of some of the best English attacking talents of a generation.

comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Slot's First Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 27 seconds ago
So the next manager has to be win the world cup. Good luck to him/her.
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not really, it was southgate's choice to leave.
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But what is the expectation of the next manager if losing finalist is not good enough.

The majority of international teams play horrendous football.
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I used to subscribe to this too but it seems like the times are changing. Portugal in 2016 and France in 2018 were always used to defend Southgate but the last two euros winners and the world cup winner have created a lot more and had more of the ball.

Think international football might finally be catching up to domestic football now that most the players have been coached in this style now
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I think Spain are the outlier. Even Argentina bored everyone to a Copa America and in the World cup it was more the Messi factor than entertainment.

Just say we got Klopp and it was the heavy metal stuff but then we lost on pens in a QF. Would that be acceptable?
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That entirely depends doesn’t it.

Overall he did a very good job.

Football might not have been great but his tournament record overall is good.

Whether personality wise he is a boring cant or not is immaterial.

I think people are going to be in for a big surprise at the next few tournaments now Southgate has gone.

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 13 seconds ago
I'll be happy with Potter if it's him. At least he is more adventurous.
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Is he though....he had a dreadful scoring record at Brighton.

DeZerbi came in and took them from scoring at best 42 goals under Potter and they hit 72, even last season, which was less impressive 54 goals.

At Chelsea, Potter managed 29 goals in 28 PL games before being sacked.

Ive always thought of him as having a bit of a blind spot when his teams get to the final third.
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He is better than Southgate and the pool of managers is weak.
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Not sure he's proved that or that he's more adventurous.

He almost looks like Southgate . I am not convinced but can see he would be a 'safe' choice for the FA

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 seconds ago
Overall he did a very good job.

Football might not have been great but his tournament record overall is good.

Whether personality wise he is a boring cant or not is immaterial.
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I think he's a very decent guy and manager. He must have some Welsh in him with a name like Gareth so that explains it...

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think people are going to be in for a big surprise at the next few tournaments now Southgate has gone.
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You mean we may see shots on target. Now that will be a surprise.

comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Time to go back in for a foreigner, unless Potter is available to take the job.
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What we need is a coach who adds some tactical sophistication that Southgate lacked (with a pragmatic understanding of how much complexity you can actually drill into a team that only meets up three weeks a year) while having some of the cultural intelligence that Southgate excelled in. Let's not forget that we had generation after generation of England sides with talented players who failed due to lack of togetherness or being crushed by the external pressure. Sometimes under the leadership of foreign coaches with great credentials and a reputation for tactical acumen.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 seconds ago
Overall he did a very good job.

Football might not have been great but his tournament record overall is good.

Whether personality wise he is a boring cant or not is immaterial.
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I think he's a very decent guy and manager. He must have some Welsh in him with a name like Gareth so that explains it...
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We have an Icelander as our new manager!

I think potter makes the most sense, a good tactician and coach who also seems to have some social intelligence. remember at Brighton he was big on team bonding exercises and stuff like that

omment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 hours, 56 minutes ago

Southgate has to go. I think he will make that decision himself anyway.

......................

If only I could get those pesky lottery number right,

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are going to be in for a big surprise at the next few tournaments now Southgate has gone.
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The next coach would be very wise to speak extensively with Southgate about how he curated a culture of togetherness and relative calmness in the England camp. And England supporters would be wise to understand that Southgate's limits as a manager weren't the only barrier to success during his tenure.

we had like 30% possession in both finals

goal has to be to try and start playing like equals against these sides

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are going to be in for a big surprise at the next few tournaments now Southgate has gone.
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The next coach would be very wise to speak extensively with Southgate about how he curated a culture of togetherness and relative calmness in the England camp. And England supporters would be wise to understand that Southgate's limits as a manager weren't the only barrier to success during his tenure.
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England supporters being wise?

They’re almost as bad as Liverpool fans when it comes to entitled.

I’m sure Sven would have made a couple of finals if he had a better draw in his tournaments.

Need to do everything to get Klopp in

comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
I’m sure Sven would have made a couple of finals if he had a better draw in his tournaments.
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He should have tried winning the group and he might have.

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 11 minutes ago
so united lose their first pre-season friendly, and less than 24 hours later southgate quits. pieces all falling into place.
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I said, on more than one occasion during the Euros, that England under Southgate play just like United., He could just steep in and not miss a beat.

The next manager would be wise to utilise his squad better in tournaments and remember he has Antony Gordon in the squad or that starting a clearly unfit Kane in every game is almost like playing with 10 men

comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I’m sure Sven would have made a couple of finals if he had a better draw in his tournaments.
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I doubt it. Check out the Rio link I put on the other day where he spoke about Sven.