The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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You didn't answer what I asked. When you say they're "mocking France for giving up on French players", please what's your definition of "French players"?
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My definition, in football terms, would people born and raised in France, to at least one French parent, so without qualification for other nations.
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So a player born and raised in France does not count as a "French footballer" by your definition. So let's say he's hypothetically born to an Ivorian dad and Algerian mum in Paris and grew up in France, what nationality would you ascribe to this footballer?
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I was asked to differentiate between what I considered French players, and French players with African heritage.
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No. My question (clearly visible in this trail of comments) asked for your definition of "French player". Which was a result of your claiming the Argentine players were mocking France for giving up on French players (because we all know a bunch of chanting, sneering young South American men are intellectually invested in the welfare of French people). So I asked you for your definition of "French players". And you've given me your definition. So I'm asking what you would call a French national born and raised in Paris to Ivorian and Algerian parents. What nationality would you ascribe to this player?
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Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
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I havent referred.to Africans..
My position is this.
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background.
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Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
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I havent referred.to Africans..
My position is this.
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background.
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You just referred to Africans again, and I still don't know what you mean.
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
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Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
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Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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You didn't answer what I asked. When you say they're "mocking France for giving up on French players", please what's your definition of "French players"?
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My definition, in football terms, would people born and raised in France, to at least one French parent, so without qualification for other nations.
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So a player born and raised in France does not count as a "French footballer" by your definition. So let's say he's hypothetically born to an Ivorian dad and Algerian mum in Paris and grew up in France, what nationality would you ascribe to this footballer?
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I was asked to differentiate between what I considered French players, and French players with African heritage.
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No. My question (clearly visible in this trail of comments) asked for your definition of "French player". Which was a result of your claiming the Argentine players were mocking France for giving up on French players (because we all know a bunch of chanting, sneering young South American men are intellectually invested in the welfare of French people). So I asked you for your definition of "French players". And you've given me your definition. So I'm asking what you would call a French national born and raised in Paris to Ivorian and Algerian parents. What nationality would you ascribe to this player?
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Well, I was differentiating between French players, and French players of African heritage.
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A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
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Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
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Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
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Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
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A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
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Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
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Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
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"The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success"
This is your version of the reason why the Argies sung that song. What you've said here is why the Argies are mocking the French according to you.
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
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It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
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Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
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It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
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Where?
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Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Say what the issue is?
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Say what the issue is?
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Tje issue is that u r a racist khunt
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Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
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It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
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Is there an off chance RDD might just be Barry's best worst smelliest sock?
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A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
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Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
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Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
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"The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success"
This is your version of the reason why the Argies sung that song. What you've said here is why the Argies are mocking the French according to you.
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Again, where have I said they aren't picked on merit?
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Where?
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Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
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Its based on their heritage.
He's trying to subliminally stress that French players and French players of foreign origins is not the same thing.
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Say what the issue is?
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Why? You clearly already know it.
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posted 11 minutes ago
Where?
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Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
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Its based on their heritage.
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Then, according to the most commonly accepted anthropological theories, we're all African. Unless you can give me a better definition of when we cease to have African heritage?
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The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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You didn't answer what I asked. When you say they're "mocking France for giving up on French players", please what's your definition of "French players"?
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My definition, in football terms, would people born and raised in France, to at least one French parent, so without qualification for other nations.
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So a player born and raised in France does not count as a "French footballer" by your definition. So let's say he's hypothetically born to an Ivorian dad and Algerian mum in Paris and grew up in France, what nationality would you ascribe to this footballer?
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I was asked to differentiate between what I considered French players, and French players with African heritage.
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No. My question (clearly visible in this trail of comments) asked for your definition of "French player". Which was a result of your claiming the Argentine players were mocking France for giving up on French players (because we all know a bunch of chanting, sneering young South American men are intellectually invested in the welfare of French people). So I asked you for your definition of "French players". And you've given me your definition. So I'm asking what you would call a French national born and raised in Paris to Ivorian and Algerian parents. What nationality would you ascribe to this player?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 7 minutes ago
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comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
posted on 17/7/24
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
posted on 17/7/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
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Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
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Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
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I havent referred.to Africans..
My position is this.
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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What's your definition of 'African'?
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You first
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Ok. I don't know your definition of 'African'. Your turn.
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No, I'm asking your definition
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There isn't a single definition, that's why I want to know which one you're applying when talking about Africans. Is it merely 'born in Africa', or is it the perceived racial category that is sometimes referred to as Black and others as African?
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I havent referred.to Africans..
My position is this.
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background.
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You just referred to Africans again, and I still don't know what you mean.
posted on 17/7/24
Where?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 16 minutes ago
The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
posted on 17/7/24
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
=====
Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 15 seconds ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 34 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or you're REALLY this thick, but a song claiming that French players have Nigerian fathers and Cameroonian mothers and born in Angola, but their passport says French is really just saying that all those French players of African heritage (which is most of the team) are basically fake French people. It's pretty clearly racially derogatory. Many of you seem to want the only definition of racism to be a guy wearing a KKK costume with swastikas and screaming "nigg@, nigg@, nigg@"".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't it mocking France for giving up on French players and relying on players of African heritage instead?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you for real?This has to be satire and nobody is this stupid. So French players of African players coming through the French system - all born or raised in France since childhood and French nationals - means that the France has given up on French players? Please define "French players" for us - let's understand where you're coming from.
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Im guessing they mean those players with African parents.
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You didn't answer what I asked. When you say they're "mocking France for giving up on French players", please what's your definition of "French players"?
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My definition, in football terms, would people born and raised in France, to at least one French parent, so without qualification for other nations.
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So a player born and raised in France does not count as a "French footballer" by your definition. So let's say he's hypothetically born to an Ivorian dad and Algerian mum in Paris and grew up in France, what nationality would you ascribe to this footballer?
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I was asked to differentiate between what I considered French players, and French players with African heritage.
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No. My question (clearly visible in this trail of comments) asked for your definition of "French player". Which was a result of your claiming the Argentine players were mocking France for giving up on French players (because we all know a bunch of chanting, sneering young South American men are intellectually invested in the welfare of French people). So I asked you for your definition of "French players". And you've given me your definition. So I'm asking what you would call a French national born and raised in Paris to Ivorian and Algerian parents. What nationality would you ascribe to this player?
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Well, I was differentiating between French players, and French players of African heritage.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 37 seconds ago
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
=====
Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
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Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 37 seconds ago
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
=====
Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success"
This is your version of the reason why the Argies sung that song. What you've said here is why the Argies are mocking the French according to you.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 16 minutes ago
The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
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i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 11 minutes ago
Where?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 16 minutes ago
The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
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Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
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It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Say what the issue is?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 16 minutes ago
The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
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Say what the issue is?
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Tje issue is that u r a racist khunt
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lol
Y r peeple botherin Converse-in with RDD
Just call him a racist dumb khunt n ssk Admin too ban him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i can only echo this advice, he is every bit as stupid as he appears to be, takes a permanently contrarian view just to annoy others, and then "argues" disingenuously until he gets banned.
oh, and just for fun, he then returns as a new user who denies that he is rdd, before falling into this usual routine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s weird, because I know both of these posts are absolutely spot on, and yet I’ll end up posting to him at some point.
There’s a thread somewhere where I wrote ‘Why does any even bother with RDD anymore?’ and within an hour he’d written something so obnoxious, and so stupid, that I bothered
I’m weak
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Is there an off chance RDD might just be Barry's best worst smelliest sock?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 37 seconds ago
A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success
=====
Something's wrong with the way you think around these matters. The French select players on merit, not this nonsense you're spouting. How did you reach this conclusion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where have I said they aren't pucked on merit?
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"The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success"
This is your version of the reason why the Argies sung that song. What you've said here is why the Argies are mocking the French according to you.
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Again, where have I said they aren't picked on merit?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 11 minutes ago
Where?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
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Its based on their heritage.
posted on 17/7/24
He's trying to subliminally stress that French players and French players of foreign origins is not the same thing.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 16 minutes ago
The chant doesn't refer to running with the ball does it? It just refers to running.
When did I say Algeria isn't an African country? Are you making things up because you've been caught in your own web of shiiiit? Because you can't admit it's a racist a chant?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you ruling Zidane out of who they mean then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's pretty obvious. I was hoping you'd see sense after a bit of socratic dialogue. But you've stubbornly clung to the idea that a chant of:
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'...
...is inclusive of Zidane. You know what the issue is, you're just refusing to accept it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Say what the issue is?
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Why? You clearly already know it.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 11 minutes ago
Where?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here:
"A lot of the French players have African parents, or background. The Argies, given their nationalistic pride, are mocking the French for selecting so many players.of African heritage in pursuit of success.
I personal think it is a crude generalisation, rather than outright racism.
Many of those players will have friends and teammates who are from such a background."
I don't know whether this distinction you're making when you use the terms "African parents" or "African heritage" considers those people African on the basis of their place of birth or on the perceived 'race' or skin colour.
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Its based on their heritage.
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Then, according to the most commonly accepted anthropological theories, we're all African. Unless you can give me a better definition of when we cease to have African heritage?
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